@dawn_of_ages: Vader has a life-support system, that's why he takes permanent damages from Force lightning. A bad comparison. Even then, it has been proved that Vader also has a limited resistance to the Force lightning.
Snokes force powers have to be around that of the Sith lord, he may be even better, but below that of Yoda. Doku did put up a fair attempt against Yoda (well he didn’t try to run the beginning, but maybe this was over confidence, and arrogance on his part) but ultimately retreated, and rightly so. So considering this, I would say that Snoke would win this battle using the force, but I have no idea where he ranks with a lightsaber.
Not sure why the guards are there to be honest, I’m sure they would be climbing up the walls as soon as this started…
And yes, while it would have effect in the long term, he can't zap them all to death with a single blast. That is, if he opts to use his Force powers instead of dueling.
@dawn_of_ages: 1. Since when was the Junior novel Canon?
2. Considering how casual that force push was do you honestly think it took much effort to send Anakin nearly flying? That's a casual force push not a charged up one where he had to build up to it or concentrate also last I checked a Jedi Master and Jedi Knight's defences>>>>>>a newbies defences also Rey was casually force pushed by Kylo when he was wounded and was pretty much rag dolling her in TFA unless I am missing something I don't remember her ever learning about a force shield
2.To ragdoll them is completely different from shoving them away a few feet regardless of how casual it was. In no way is it indicative of superiority. If we're going by that line of thinking then might as well have Ahsoka>Vader, Kanan & Ezra>Vader, Yoda>Sidious. The novel states Snoke literally tore through her defenses.
3.The first one isn't even canon, it's Legends. On the second one, Kenobi had just survived his ship exploding, and even visibly struggles to and could barely stand seconds prior.
@erkan12: By resistant I meant completely invulnerable. Despite being able to resist, you can that Vader isn't completely invulnerable to it and is put on his knees once he's hit with Lightning. The point is that the armor doesn't completely nullify the effects of Lightning as some of it still manages to get past the armor.
@anakinvader99:Rey has no force shield if I remember correctly
The TLJ novel literally states Snoke ripped right through it:
Rey's tk potency doesn't equal defence potency
Citation needed.
Isn't this my old image? Lol Thank you, I was looking for that a few days ago and forgot which site and profile I had it on. Once again, another guy was arguing with me about force shields not being canon (a youtuber). Took me extra time just to re-refind this source. Lmao
Ok I just gotta ask, this whole Vader has vulnerability to Lighting....well ok, who in Star Wars doesn't? Because I'm sure, mechanical body or no, lighting can still screw someone over. It's blown out of proportion with Vader tbh, he's vulnerable yes...but it's not like it's anything too special.
Ok I just gotta ask, this whole Vader has vulnerability to Lighting....well ok, who in Star Wars doesn't? Because I'm sure, mechanical body or no, lighting can still screw someone over. It's blown out of proportion with Vader tbh, he's vulnerable yes...but it's not like it's anything too special.
Literally no one has ever said this before. Ground breaking.
We haven't really seen Snoke's fighting skill, but he was able to link Rey and Kylo from lightyears away with the force, so that shows something. I think Snoke and his guards would win.
@in-sidiousvader:Oh yeah crap I forgot to read Plagueis, silly me. I just thought it was unnecessary.
The females on Naboo were probably trashy anyway.
@dark-sith123 Dooku is easily one of the best looking men in the entire SW mythos, if you disagree you're actually gay.
Sidious needed to stay that way years after RotS when he'd come into no contact with civilians? At least put a bit into your appearance, maybe a new cloak or something idk? A nice tan one?
@erkan12: By resistant I meant completely invulnerable. Despite being able to resist, you can that Vader isn't completely invulnerable to it and is put on his knees once he's hit with Lightning. The point is that the armor doesn't completely nullify the effects of Lightning as some of it still manages to get past the armor.
Vader was completely fine after the blast, which was coming from the Emperor, who is far more powerful than Dooku.
The discussion was about Nightbrothers and Praetorian Guards, even then we know Nightbrothers have a high endurance, they are still vulnerable to blaster shots and lightsaber, Praetorian guards have an armor that can resist to those kind of attacks, I think they should be more durable against Force lightning, plus they are more skilled than Nightbrothers. Dooku can't possibly deal with Praetorians + Snoke at the same time. No tier 8 could.
@erkan12: By resistant I meant completely invulnerable. Despite being able to resist, you can that Vader isn't completely invulnerable to it and is put on his knees once he's hit with Lightning. The point is that the armor doesn't completely nullify the effects of Lightning as some of it still manages to get past the armor.
Vader was completely fine after the blast, which was coming from the Emperor, who is far more powerful than Dooku.
The discussion was about Nightbrothers and Praetorian Guards, even then we know Nightbrothers have a high endurance, they are still vulnerable to blaster shots and lightsaber, Praetorian guards have an armor that can resist to those kind of attacks, I think they should be more durable against Force lightning, plus they are more skilled than Nightbrothers. Dooku can't possibly deal with Praetorians + Snoke at the same time. No tier 8 could.
@anonymousjedi: I don't know why Gillard changed his mind and lowered him to bordering to tier 9 level, but Lucas never said anything against his previous statement yet which was; ''you need to be Yoda or Windu to compete with the Emperor'' , so Windu stays as tier 9 for me.
@erkan12: So, because Lucas never said anything against Dooku's ranking, does that mean he becomes a 9, too? Lets change the rankings when they apply for specific characters we favour, then
Why are Praetorians rated so highly? They lost to untrained Rey and Kylo convincingly in 1V1 settings, someone like Grievous could solo the lot of them.
@erkan12: So, because Lucas never said anything against Dooku's ranking, does that mean he becomes a 9, too? Lets change the rankings when they apply for specific characters we favour, then
You need to be ''Yoda or Windu to challenge the Emperor'' , what did you understand from this?
Not everyone can challenge the Emperor, especially not someone like Dooku who is obviously inferior to Yoda in terms of skill and power.
@anonymousjedi: From what I understand he just lowered Mace a little bit, that's all. Not sure why are you so stubborn to wank Dooku and pull Mace to Dooku's level, but Mace is still above of Dooku even with his current ranking, Mace is bordering to tier 9, Dooku isn't. And with his previous ranking Mace is comfortably above of Dooku as being a tier 9. And according to Lucas, who is a greater authority, Mace is on the same level with Yoda and Sidious, plain and simple. You may not like it, but that's the fact.
@erkan12:I wasn't arguing that Dooku was Mace level - I was using that as an example for what you're doing (wanking mace). Windu is clearly ahead of Dooku, but he isn't a nine anymore.
And according to Lucas, who is a greater authority, Mace is on the same level with Yoda and Sidious, plain and simple. You may not like it, but that's the fact.
Umm... no. Just because he can 'compete' with the Emperor, doesn't automatically grade him to their level. Mace is an 8/9 - you may not like it, but that's the reality.
Why are Praetorians rated so highly? They lost to untrained Rey and Kylo convincingly in 1V1 settings, someone like Grievous could solo the lot of them.
Because...something, something, something, Rey and Kylo's potential are extremely high which = fantastic combatants or something and Kylo is one of the best Force Users in the current Canon.
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