Superman (ZSJL) (DCEU) vs Reverse Flash, Savitar & Zoom (CW)

Savitar (SpeedForce)

Zoom(Velocity IX)

Reverse Flash (2049)

Superman (Zack Snyder ) DCEU

Not entirely sure on DCEU Superman's capabilities, but I think either should be able to solo with time manip/speed removal/bypass durability with phasing

Speedsters.

He's getting a vibrated hand into his chest before he can process that the battle has even started

Speedsters win

He dies lol. Only person he can kill here is RF.

CW speedsters win

He dies horribly.

Rf solos

Words can't describe how horribly Superman dies...

RF Rips his heart out.

Stop the wank please.

Eobard is the only one who might be able to keep up

The speedsters would win.

Two speedsters can easily distract him while Reverse Flash phase kills him.

He's faster than all of them in travel speed, but not combat

@gohindasuperman said:

They statue with what feats? Superman has feats of reaching speed at Mach 1,500 and counting and then speeds greater than Mach 3,000 when he flew his first time. CW Flash is faster but these speedsters have no feats going beyond Mach 500.

@gohindasuperman: What makes you think that it took longer than the times in the films? I think that Flash has frame cuts in many of his scenes but i won't mention those cus i don't have to. Time travel in the CW requires moving at Mach 7 iirc. Superman fought at Mach 197-200 against Flash so i bet he could do it here. He'll get overwhelmed of course and he has no answer to phasing.

That's pretty irrelevant for speedsters because travel and combat speeds operate as the same variable with them.

@legend531: Zoom is what, Mach 12?

Not Quite cause in Travel RF scales to Cw Season 4 Flash who has a Relativistic feat.

He also scales to Barry going around the earth multiple times in S5(Elseworlds crossover).

So not quite darling.

@heiqn said:

I was laughing at you saying RF might be able to keep up with SC Supes.

There is no change in his speed compared to his Theatrical version.

So RF Still blitzes and rips his heart out.

I am bored and I wanna see what garbage comes out of his mouth.

@legend531: In the theatrical version Barry (who was tagged by Clark) wasn't stated to be capable of reaching light speed. In the Snyder cut he was. So there was a change.

Too bad for Supes he never fought that version of Flash who s nearly FTL.

So as I said.

Supe's speed is still the same.

He is still blitz Material for CW RF.

@legend531: Barry fought Clark after he already went near-LS to resurrect him

Still no proof he was using anywhere near that level of speed when he was fighting Clark.

In your next reply I want facts from the movie.

No more Conjecture.

@legend531: How fast is RF again?

@legend531 said:

Maybe but if we use that logic then Superman is as fast as Flash since he tagged him in JL and the SC, based on scaling of course. DCEU Flash is LS and beyond in the Snyder Cut.

At least High End Relativistic scaling from a weakened Barry(As of S7)

MFTL at his absolute best.

Cause due to the mechanics of the Negative Speedforce.

His speed grows in proportion to Barry's own.

So he will always be faster than Barry.

Hell he schooled S5 Barry +Nora(His nigh equal)(Who also has an MFTL feat btw earlier in the season).

So it is all Gucci and more or less consistent.

And how would you go about proving that Barry/Nora were using that speed when they fought Eobard?

Thing is tho.

SC Flash was not using his near LS levels of speed against Supes.

I mean hypersonic characters were moving albeit slowly(WW and Aquaman) and Lightning was moving normally from their perception.

Also IIRC he said when he is Near LS levels of speed.

Time starts to act wonky or sum ish.

Nothing like that happened in the fight.

@legend531: Then why are you saying that Reverse-Flash is moving this fast when he was fighting Barry? The speed they were calculated to be moving at was Mach 197-200, and Superman was fighting the whole time. RF cannot phase through Superman either, nor can the rest of the team. RF cannot phase through CW Supergirl without weakening her first.

@angeliccry: @bladeoffury:We will continue this discussion later on.

It is 1 am here and a man got things to do.

Toodles👍👍👍

@legend531: night

anyone on team 2 can phase him

@legend531: Gn!

Even if you say DCEU Flash was only using 1% of his max potential (which is MFTL but we'll say LS for now) while fighting that still means Superman was able to casually sidestep someone going around mach 8000+

It really is. Side stepping Flash the way he did means he's at bare minimum mach 8000+ in combat speed. And you can legit wank him to LS