Superman vs Silver Surfer

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#1 Posted by ShakaKhan (45 posts) - - Show Bio
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Morals: Off, both blodlusted

Versions: Post crisis Superman(includes pre-52/new-52/Rebirth feats)

Conditions: Win by any means

Starting location: In space 100 meters apart from one another.

Who wins and why?

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#2 Posted by ThEBeStOfTheBeST (12205 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer one shots.

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#3 Posted by TakenStew22 (4440 posts) - - Show Bio
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#4 Posted by EternalDarkFury (3404 posts) - - Show Bio

SS stomps.

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#5 Posted by BruceBanner84 (121 posts) - - Show Bio

Outerversal doomsday wins

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#6 Posted by green_skaar (12874 posts) - - Show Bio

SS by being more powerful and more versatile

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#7 Posted by ShakaKhan (45 posts) - - Show Bio

Outerversal doomsday wins

LOL, get's me every time.

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#8 Posted by BruceBanner84 (121 posts) - - Show Bio

@brucebanner84 said:

Outerversal doomsday wins

LOL, get's me every time.

This has be to be the highlight of the year for comicvine

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#9 Posted by TakenStew22 (4440 posts) - - Show Bio
@shakakhan said:
@brucebanner84 said:

Outerversal doomsday wins

LOL, get's me every time.

This has be to be the highlight of the year for comicvine

Multiversal Superman is a close second though.

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#10 Posted by BruceBanner84 (121 posts) - - Show Bio
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#11 Posted by ShakaKhan (45 posts) - - Show Bio

I guess this is one-sided, maybe i should have given Superman some amps or something...

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#12 Posted by Omnipotent94 (1523 posts) - - Show Bio

@shakakhan: This is one sided because surfer's powers are a hard counter for superman. Its like surfer is made to defeat superman.

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#13 Posted by CaptainSweatpan (2614 posts) - - Show Bio

Been done, Surfer is one of the worst opponents for Superman

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#14 Posted by ShakaKhan (45 posts) - - Show Bio

@omnipotent94: Hmm, never really saw it that way myself tbh, always assumed Surfer was too hax and versatile for most high-tiers including Superman, not that he directly counters him in some way.

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#15 Posted by Rac95 (5692 posts) - - Show Bio

Norrin Radd wins. He is a very skilled energy manipulator including draining, has basically a bit of every power and combined this with good physicals and speed he can abuse that makes him so dangerous to most bricks.

He is not a super counter like someone with kryptonite (although you could even argue that he could technically create it with matter manip), but would take it

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#16 Posted by XLR87T3 (10282 posts) - - Show Bio

Morals Off, Superman blitzes and caves Surfer's face in. Not very fair for Silver Surfer

Morals On, Silver Surfer can possibly drain him or do shenanigans involving his weakness to red sun solar radiation, but Clark could still knock him out while he's trying

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#17 Posted by Wot_m8 (1834 posts) - - Show Bio

I N F I N I T E S U P E R M A N

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#18 Edited by TakenStew22 (4440 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman isn't blitzing a bloodlusted Surfer lol. He'll drain Superman of his solar energy or mess him up with matter manipulation before he can react.

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#19 Posted by XLR87T3 (10282 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman is blitzing a bloodlusted Silver Surfer before Norrin reacts. Getting blitzed by street levelers and Thor vs MFTL reaction timing

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#20 Posted by deactivated-5cd6fe3f211bb (353 posts) - - Show Bio

SS by being more powerful and more versatile

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#21 Posted by destinyman75 (15770 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3: Norrin is faster then Clark how is he blitzing??

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#22 Posted by ByondEon (2299 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer stomps. Faster, stronger, haxier (Supes have no hax unless Pre-crisis)

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#23 Posted by XLR87T3 (10282 posts) - - Show Bio

@destinyman75: He has never ever been faster, at best it's arguable that he's as fast as Superman in reactions, but now Superman has gained a picosecond reaction feat and a MMMMMFTL reaction/reflexes/operational speed feat.

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#24 Posted by eri123 (5233 posts) - - Show Bio

SS

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#25 Posted by ThEBeStOfTheBeST (12205 posts) - - Show Bio

Tbf, when you take consistency into account which you should, Superman is faster than Surfer in combat especially with the New 52 and Rebirth feats, Clark's a champion at blitzing people right off the bat. However, the reason as to why Norrin stomps is 'cause of his superior versatility and equal, if not better physicality and keep in mind that powerhouses such as the likes of Thor have managed to physically compete with him before without getting utterly humiliated which means Superman can definitely hold his ground against Surfer in that regard but he will eventually go down due to the aforementioned reason.

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#26 Edited by CaptainSweatpan (2614 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3: do you think Superman wins?

And what's MMMMMTL?

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#27 Posted by ThEBeStOfTheBeST (12205 posts) - - Show Bio
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#28 Posted by XLR87T3 (10282 posts) - - Show Bio

@thebestofthebest: Superman is stronger than Thor, that has been long established. Thor is more comparable to Supergirl physically, so Silver Surfer should get beat down by Superman's punches. Not only that, but Thor is consistently faster than SS...

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#30 Posted by XLR87T3 (10282 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3: do you think Superman wins?

And what's MMMMMTL?

Massively massively massively massively massively faster than light

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#31 Posted by CaptainSweatpan (2614 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3: MFTL would have worked

Do you think Superman wins?

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#32 Posted by ThEBeStOfTheBeST (12205 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3: It's probably some kind of a glitch or a bug.

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#33 Posted by The_living_tribunal_24 (6689 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3 said:

@thebestofthebest: Superman is stronger than Thor, that has been long established. Thor is more comparable to Supergirl physically, so Silver Surfer should get beat down by Superman's punches. Not only that, but Thor is consistently faster than SS...

hmmm. hmmm

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#34 Posted by XLR87T3 (10282 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3: MFTL would have worked

Do you think Superman wins?

No, Superman's Picosecond feat was MFTL. His moon reconstruction feat was on another level, approaching Planck Time (5.39121e-44 seconds) even when lowballing the feat.

Superman should win regardless of whether SS takes advantage of his weakness to red solar radiation, since he's much faster and physically strong enough to easily KO SS. Morals only dictates if Superman allows himself to be hit or not.

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#35 Posted by CaptainSweatpan (2614 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3: so Superman beats Surfer, okay

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#36 Posted by Kirkseven (3447 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably SS

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#37 Edited by Gree1 (47 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman oneshots Surfer at this point.

As for draining which is the only probable option Surfer has, Superman resisted draining from mxyzptlk himself in Rebirth.

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#38 Posted by TakenStew22 (4440 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3 said:

Thor is consistently faster than SS...

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#40 Posted by bouncyhippo (565 posts) - - Show Bio

superman is stronger than he is shown in comics. people always put him on easy mode cause they scared.

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#41 Posted by Gree1 (47 posts) - - Show Bio

Also lol at Surfer being anywhere near Superman in speed. Surfer is a slower green lantern in travel speed and has like two or three statements about his speed.

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#42 Edited by Consciouskeeper (2596 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver surfer can drain radiation at least he use to be able to, i think he even did it to hulk in "thanos wins" so he could do it to superman easily and win.

*edit wait I think mxy did this and failed idk

If this is just a brawl however surfer dies

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#43 Posted by deactivated-5d07416730d08 (2261 posts) - - Show Bio

Tbf, when you take consistency into account which you should, Superman is faster than Surfer in combat especially with the New 52 and Rebirth feats, Clark's a champion at blitzing people right off the bat. However, the reason as to why Norrin stomps is 'cause of his superior versatility and equal, if not better physicality and keep in mind that powerhouses such as the likes of Thor have managed to physically compete with him before without getting utterly humiliated which means Superman can definitely hold his ground against Surfer in that regard but he will eventually go down due to the aforementioned reason.

Only when Starlin was writing or Surfer was obviously holding back.

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#44 Posted by Omnipotent94 (1523 posts) - - Show Bio

@gree1 said:

Superman oneshots Surfer at this point.

As for draining which is the only probable option Surfer has, Superman resisted draining from mxyzptlk himself in Rebirth.

When?

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#45 Posted by Omnipotent94 (1523 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver surfer can drain radiation at least he use to be able to, i think he even did it to hulk in "thanos wins" so he could do it to superman easily and win.

*edit wait I think mxy did this and failed idk

If this is just a brawl however surfer dies

Doesn't that sound like an outlier?

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#46 Posted by TakenStew22 (4440 posts) - - Show Bio

I would also like to know when Mxy failed to drain Superman. Sounds like a massive outlier.

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#47 Posted by Consciouskeeper (2596 posts) - - Show Bio

@omnipotent94: I mean surfer doesn't drain everyone he sees so that would also be an outlier?

But sure i guess.

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#48 Edited by XLR87T3 (10282 posts) - - Show Bio

@thebestofthebest said:

Tbf, when you take consistency into account which you should, Superman is faster than Surfer in combat especially with the New 52 and Rebirth feats, Clark's a champion at blitzing people right off the bat. However, the reason as to why Norrin stomps is 'cause of his superior versatility and equal, if not better physicality and keep in mind that powerhouses such as the likes of Thor have managed to physically compete with him before without getting utterly humiliated which means Superman can definitely hold his ground against Surfer in that regard but he will eventually go down due to the aforementioned reason.

Only when Starlin was writing or Surfer was obviously holding back.

Thor has always been above Silver Surfer. The comic doesn't lie, Surfer needs amps to defeat Thor, without it Thor beats him down like always.

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#49 Posted by Gree1 (47 posts) - - Show Bio

@omnipotent94: Superman 19 mxy created an infinite multiverse and asked Superman to reach Jon who was at the center of it. It was designed to drain Superman's energy and memories.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/7XOvjffvJJ9-qWH-FACZBxHcDJcV2SO2z_m4Hj7n83xYY9IhKx-oVdSuEG8RtKShsZIwvDCM1YxpslcltxwoDNLFKV57lGSVM_ECH9kJJLwHi3HxyAlFbpdLu7gVhul7QBOx3Q=s1600

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Q5qIl7-kkTrwQdIZ7P2jXFsiRekoAcWVhJ1c1Puomoo2LT3vxnqisL3vM1gJYMKZeUWR9Bsfjvr5LsxTFiSYs6bPOj32tfvyW1te1VyPPd62NLBIX-SXmr7-RQO6sDm2PKSXQ=s1600

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/hGaTAw6lg5gcYLZOTa0VwAfeUMk2qguBdS3Xmq3xN_DRNuhIbZcckpD0Cp1BTGC72X5txgBlHJfEvlxRXqIpOe1OEiOGw3lB3dLcEqUE0DWJe5ijDBjIYFTja6AI28LVXXQk3A=s1600

At the end, even Mxy was surprised how Superman remained standing.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/KUDXgcuQoYmATMQWY4e3D1Ju7iz-pzv--lAlMwXrmZ0frmWb-wWap7DcKyrdF_9P4XyjTmYPmDbWi80SOFwwI3oIRutgH-_ekCfZAncRpP7A68BVCJ80CM3oF4LruuH8sQYxGQ=s1600

And it was infinite, every door leading to a different universe.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/TNGuxb8UtOOWcAIoc9mUbc74VfUYgMv5oY_39QDtitOCiol9tuWd8QVJtZqDB54_Yu06fj2fZge7fW0YNH6ibb9ATecLtE577pPxBiZjWteD0WhZCdlqEOX3QEG0Gnn8z6goPQ=s1600

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#50 Posted by Omnipotent94 (1523 posts) - - Show Bio

@gree1: I forgot about that. Superman reborn,wasn't it? Well that's not really mxy trying to drain superman. That's just him playing a game. If mxy really wanted to drain supes he can do it without even blinking.