@DocFatalis said:
Well, according to me, the only thing this quite pathetic scene has shown us is that when you use enough visual pyrotechnics and have blown up enough squares of the city because you don't want the Hulk to lose like he should, you have the Sentry reverting to his normal form and the Hulk reverting to Banner. We then see Bob who wants to be punished. It's one of the worst scene and most rotten metaphors I've seen in WWH, and there were a lot. It's trying to hint to the fact that when he uses his powers at a high level, Reynolds reverts to human. That is so inconsistent I don't think it can reasonably be mentioned.
True he did want to be punished and let loose his power on the Hulk but the point still stands. Reynolds expended a massive amount of energy and needed time to replenish it after the fight. But fair enough.
@DocFatalis said:
Do you have the scans for the first time when Sentry used his psychic powers (not the second time with Strange and Richards), because I don't remember his robot providing him with power or stuff?
Unfortunately not but various synopsises have said that it was Cloc who helped him wipe everyone's memories the first time. So it can be reasonably assumed that Cloc did help Sentry mindwipe the world the first time. And again Sentry has no mental feats to speak of that show he could use them against Superman. So your point here is void unfortunately (pardon the pun)
@DocFatalis said:
I don't think any of Sentry's defeats were triggered by something else than guilt and instability. Maybe that one time against Hammerhead and his villains and I am not even sure. You say that Supe's is more experienced, but we have absolutely no idea about that. The only thing we know is that Sentry was born and got his powers long before the current Superman, that is all. Considering you are talking about the previous Superman, well the only thing we know is that more stories were told about him, but who knows how much Sentry has fought before? And Superman is really not a martial artist either.
His defeat with WWH was. The Torch from WW2 overloaded the Sentry with power. Morgan Le Faye and Molecule Man blew him to smithereens. All those defeats weren't triggered by guilt or instability, they were triggered via the Sentry losing to his opponent. And what do you mean Sentry has been around longer than Superman? Sentry came about at around about the same time as the FF. Where's the proof for your claim? Finally Superman may not be the best martial artist in the world but he does have knowledge of Toaurquasm Vao in addition to some varied combat training. Here are some examples of it
Defeating Commander Gor, a member of the Kryptonian Military by analysing his combat style and exploting his weaknesses. Suffice to say Gor would have had some combat training to say the least.
Using kidney punches and pressure jabs on Ultraman.
Blocking punches from Mongul using Muhammed Ali's rope a dope strategy
Just a neat scan of Superman beating Mongul Jr up whilst being trained by him prior to Imperiex coming.
Additionally Superman is king of the speedblitz. I could fill this post with instances of him blitzing foes. It's a common tactic he uses. And I can't seem to recall Sentry blitzing many of his foes. Advantage Superman in that regard. And I think that establishes Superman's greater experience. Let's continue...
@DocFatalis said:
To me, against an opponent of Supe's class, Reynolds would just use his powers up to an unseen level before becoming the Void for the umpteenth time, and then the shit (pardon my french) would really begin. But even before this happens, there's an other power of him that we have forgotten about: he controls the color and frequency of the light he radiates, which mean that Superman would soon find himself fighting a red sun.
How's he going to power up to an unseen level again? Superman has faced countless foes of equal or greater power than his own and I doubt Sentry could get to a level that Superman couldn't equal or surpass Bob. His strength, reaction speed, speed blitzing and energy projection feats all put him at a level way above the Sentry. As for your Void point, it's debatable whether the Void would take control in Round 1. And Round 2 has no Void which means Superman slaughters Bob. He knocked around Wonder Woman whilst under Max Lord's control so the fight between those two would end quickly given Superman's superior bloodlusted performance. Finally, I know Sentry can emit some kind of solar energy blast but when has he ever changed its colour and frequency? There's no evidence to suggest the Sentry can emit red solar radiation as one of his abilities. You're speculating here I'm afraid unless you can show me otherwise?
@DocFatalis said:
Unless Reynolds wants to be beaten, I don't think someone like Superman can actually hurt him.
It doesn't matter whether Bob doesn't want to be KOed or not. Superman can still do just that. He's superior to Bob in every way and has the feats to support it. As for Round 3, Prime is basically as powerful as 2 or 3 Kryptonians combined so the Void would be fighting a team with the combined power of at least 4 Kryptonian males. Not a fight I can see the Void winning.
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