Superman vs Kilowog

@Killemall said:

@Lvenger said:

And in the next fight Superman won. A lot of inconsistencies in the draw. I was speaking generally. Like how he uses his constructs, how powerful they are or what type of constructs he uses. Because in a no holds barred fight what's to stop Superman from just slipping Kilowag's ring off his finger before a move is made? Majestic did it when he was in the DC Universe.

Kilowog rarely uses his constructs, he didnt use that when he beat him during Superman/ Batman.

Never seen Superman beat Kilowog, what issue are we talking here? Would you happen to have issue no or scans (i can understand if you dont though, understandable).

Its mostly his physical stats.

Lanterns have busted planet with one blast from their ring, i dont see Superman tanking them.

Then how did he beat him? If he just physically beat the snot of him, I'm inclined to say PIS. There's no way Kilowag should have won like that.

I can't seem to find the scans. But I can't find the scans for the first Superman vs Kilowag fight either.

And you still haven't responded to the taking of the ring at superspeed feat. Here's the scan that shows it can be done:

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@Lvenger said:

Then how did he beat him? If he just physically beat the snot of him, I'm inclined to say PIS. There's no way Kilowag should have won like that.

I can't seem to find the scans. But I can't find the scans for the first Superman vs Kilowag fight either.

And you still haven't responded to the taking of the ring at superspeed feat. Here's the scan that shows it can be done:

Yes they brawled and he beat him physically, now without anything to prove to the contrary i am inclined to believe Kilowog is simply stronger but we can agree to disagree.

I did respond to ring being taken at superspeed, and the response was Kilowog doesnt rely on the ring. Also GL are capable of calling back their rings.

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@Killemall: Kilowag's stronger than the being who moved planets and the gears to an entire solar system? We can agree to disagree if you want but there's more evidence that put Superman on a far superior physical level to Kilowag.

And I wonder why Kyle didn't do that when Majestic nicked his ring? Eitehr he didn't know how, PIS was at play or Majestic found some way of stopping the ring returning to Kyle. He is a genius after all.

Hey just asking why does everyone think Thor can beat Kilowog but not Superman?

No way Kilowog win this one

Superman stomps

@XImpossibruX said:

Gotta go with Kilowog 6/10

Please note Kilowog is wearing TWO rings in that scan. That doesnt apply to this fight.

@DocFatalis said:

To me he's the lantern with the least imagination. You never see him using the ring with better constructs than a giant fist or a sling. All the earth's lanterns seem to be having better ideas, and John Stewart even once had his ring saying "warning, imagination beyond ring's capabilities".

What a load of nonsense.

Superman wins this, he can easily smash green light constructs and has bested hal jordan at least twice (probably more I just can't remember more than two right now)

In character, kilowag slightly. Supes wins morals off

This thread is making me lol. Superman not holding back losing to Kilowog lmao. So funny. People bringing up different versions of kilowog to beat superman funnier. xD. Wanna do that then lets throw in SA superman xD GG

Even though killowag has beeten superman before, its PIS superman should win

Can someone post the scan of Kilowog vs Superman because there only ever seems to be a single scan posted about it with no context, and didn't prior to said fight Superman had just finished taking on Hal Jordan in an all out fight indicating he wasn't at full power.

Kilowog wins

That scan is full of WIN

Has anyone actually read superman/batman enemies amongst us? kilowog was under control by alien life forms who were persuaded by despero to take over the minds of all alien life on earth i belive superman was also under these effects while he was fighting kilowog. his head was being tampered with during the fight while kilowog was free to stomp him around yeah some vitory

how is kilawog beating superman, come on there are other GLs beater than him that aint beating supes.

and when have GLs busted a planet, if they did it must have been in a really large group.

@spm1m: That wouldn't make a difference if Kilowog was under the same influence as Superman

@dondave: Except kilowog was under complete control and superman was resisting. the fight itself wasnt even a fight it was kilowog trying to convince superman he was an abomination and to turn on his allies on earth

@dondave: not to mention kilowog was also in possession of hals ring for a power boost

Extra Rings don't give you additional power, there is a Lantern who has four rings but it doensn't make him anymore powerful than the rest of them

Is this true? i was under the impression it did with the whole hal jordan goin crazy with the power of multiple rings and parallax after the destruction of coast city and sodam yat wearing multiple of rings during Final Crisis LOTW for power i guess they just must of wore them for style either way like i said it was hardly a fight while Kal was getting mind f*&$d

@spm1m: Er, unless I'm going insane, didn't that fight also entail Supes legitimately hitting and Kilowog being like 'nu'? Also Kilowog's mind control made him weaker. And the two rings thing means...nothing.

Superman wins.

Nope superman hit kilowog a couple times, that part never happened it may have been a different fight but kal was mainly tying to get kilowog away from batman and was trying to hold him of. hal jordan was under the "influence" right before kilowog appeared, jordan claimed the aliens made him attack superman with everything he had until he overcame the control so.... no kilowog under the influence was if anything stronger with no morals and attacking superman with everything he had just like all the other "aliens" under control attacked with little to no mercy.

@thedarklordpandamonium: and having an extra ring does increase power just like hal was goin of killing other members of the corp for theyre rings believe after the destruction of coast city here a thread addressing power rings http://www.comicvine.com/green-lantern/4015-41148/forums/multiple-power-rings-571724/ hope it helps.

@spm1m: They agreed it just increases capacity, and Kilowog doesn't really use the Lantern Ring for fighting so much as he uses it for getting near his enemy and beating them up.

Superman barely wins.

true but higher capacity means the possibility of using stronger attacks more frequent without the fear of running out of energy thus giving them overall more power although in kilowogs case i do agree with you

@moonman78: Actually, Kyle Rayner did it(destroyed a planet) on his own.

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/kyle-rayner-ion-vs-firelord-1463396/

Check out dccomicsrule2011's first set of scans in that thread.

that was Ion Kyle which is one of the most powerful incarnation of Ion, so thats a pointless statement as ive yet to see any green lantern bust a planet

Then why?? And why did Yat have 10 if they don't do anything extra?

@spm1m: He wasn't Ion when he did that

@spm1m: Incorrect. Read the thread; the entire point of dccomicsrule2011 posting said scans was to substantiate his claim that even Kyle without the Ion-Entity would be capable of defeating Firelord, hence the scans of him destroying a planet, rebuilding a planet, etc.

Kilowog would get the snot blitzed out of him, I haven't seen him do things such as open wormholes and turn intangible or even show strength comparable to Superman, what is everyone basing their facts off of.

Supes is too quick for him so he wins imo. Not a stomp though

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@dondave: @xiix: i see sorry i jumped to conclusions, it seems its kyle other than the other lanterns who has high end feats like that like wen he contained a super nova in dc one million arc

The reason supes beats Hal so consistently is because Hal is a human with shields. Meanwhile, kilowag is on par with supes in everything but speed. He can definetly take some punches and hit kal back just as hard. Plus he's beaten him before so...

Supes not holding back should win here...as good as Kilowag is he isn't on par when it comes to downright combat speed and raw strength as far as I'm aware...

Kilowog beating Superman? That is just...after all Superman is above Kyle & Hal who are more powerful than Kilowog.

Where are the scans where Kilowog beats Superman? anyone?

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@killemall:

Yes they brawled and he beat him physically, now without anything to prove to the contrary i am inclined to believe Kilowog is simply stronger but we can agree to disagree.

Dude, there's nothing to agree on. You are deluded. Superman is WAY stronger. Hell, Hal has taken on Kilowog in wrestling and made him bleed. Kilowog never beat Superman in single combat without a ring.

I did respond to ring being taken at superspeed, and the response was Kilowog doesnt rely on the ring. Also GL are capable of calling back their rings.

Kilowog relies on his ring like any other GL. And superspeed is no joke.

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The reason supes beats Hal so consistently is because Hal is a human with shields. Meanwhile, kilowag is on par with supes in everything but speed. He can definetly take some punches and hit kal back just as hard. Plus he's beaten him before so...

No. No. NO. Kilowog does not even come close to matching Superman's physical stats. Plus that "victory" was with TWO rings.

Plus check this...

https://comicnewbies.com/2016/03/14/hal-jordan-spars-with-kilowog/

If you still believe Kilowog can match Superman without a ring, you're a clueless idiot.