Ice Man at his strongest
Current Supes
Fight on Earth, no leaving earth
Start 1km away
Superman vs Iceman
Oblivion is a terrible cosmic entity with no feats, in fact he only appeared in Quasar's series where he did jack, and in the Iceman mini where he got owned by him. He's another useless cosmic like Hunger was. Supes wins [even though Bobby is my favorite mutant]
Superman.
And lets not get into if Iceman is immortal or not by saying 'Superman puts Iceman into a black hole before Iceman can form a thought (it takes a human being 768 milliseconds for a thought to form - so much for speed of thought - slower than speed of light).
Iceman fans can think he's as immortal as they want - he can't survive a singularity. And arguing he can? He can't escape a singularity. Superman can and has.
End of story, Superman stomps Iceman at Iceman's most powerful levels ever without even trying hard.
@Prince of Saiyans said:
Ice Man is pretty strong Omega at peak levels, Hell, he even beat Oblivion
no, before you even mention that feat, Oblivion ALLOWED iceman to freeze him for his own purpose. that feat means nothing guy
with that being said, Iceman loses.
Wrong...this whole post failSuperman can do everything Iceman can do and a lot more.
The winner is obvious.
@Obtrusive said:
Well Iceman won't die, I dont' think, because he can just come back in another water form, but there is no way he can beat superman, I guess a stale mate.
It takes a lot of energy to reform himself after being shattered or turned into mist. He would tire out relatively fast. Superman is too fast to even be targeted by Iceman's eyes.
The fact u said superman can do everything iceman can do is just silly. U need to get more knowledge on iceman@ghost_rider1: Unless you can prove me wrong, don't just go around saying: "wrong, fail."
Actually iceman can use his powers for about 5 hrs before fatigue becomes a problem. I call this match a stalemate also@Obtrusive said:
Well Iceman won't die, I dont' think, because he can just come back in another water form, but there is no way he can beat superman, I guess a stale mate.It takes a lot of energy to reform himself after being shattered or turned into mist. He would tire out relatively fast. Superman is too fast to even be targeted by Iceman's eyes.
Iceman is basically a psychic consciousness at this point, he can freeze every molecule in Superman's body without having a body himself.
Plus Supes has no idea of his powerset so after smashing iceman he could be caught off guard.
For the record this argument is for current Iceman, full potential iceman murderstomps.
@ghost_rider1 said:
@Cable_ExtremeActually iceman can use his powers for about 5 hrs before fatigue becomes a problem. I call this match a stalemate also@Obtrusive said:
Well Iceman won't die, I dont' think, because he can just come back in another water form, but there is no way he can beat superman, I guess a stale mate.It takes a lot of energy to reform himself after being shattered or turned into mist. He would tire out relatively fast. Superman is too fast to even be targeted by Iceman's eyes.
I know he can, but there is a difference between using your Ice powers, and reforming from mist or liquid.
This is taken directly from Comic Vine "If damaged, he can reform damaged or missing body parts. While physically and mentally taxing, this ability can be used to reform his entire body if necessary, as he has been able to reform himself to ice from sentient water vapor". He would tire, and would lose. He has no way to defeat superman.
Why cant Ice man just freeze superman at a molecular level? What can superman do to counter absolute zero?
@therainmaker said:
Why cant Ice man just freeze superman at a molecular level? What can superman do to counter absolute zero?
That doesnt work on supes . . Extreme cold or heat .
I already debated this in the real iceman vs supes thread .
Superman owns. How on earth does Bobby react before Clark blitzes the hell out of him?
This is a one sided curb stomp. Too many ways for the earth's favorite Kryptonian to win.
Superman easily.
@GypRosetti:
90's Iceman freezes Legion (note that he is significantly less powerful than his current powerset):
Uses an opponents moisture to reform himself:
Bishop telling an adolescent Bobby that his Future self can do a lot more than just slow down water molecules:
Bobby stops heat exchange on the molecular level:
Moving fast enough to continually pummel Bastion, and this is purely punching in the main:
X-Men Forever, a still not full potential Bobby freezing every single atom on a Celestial ship
(note how he states that he is 'part of everything' implying his powers are full on atom manipulation not just water molecules):
Charles Xavier's personal account on Bobby from the very beginning (Xavier places him ABOVE Jean in this):
And this (save X-men Forever Iceman) is all for current or previous Iceman.
With full potential he murderstomps Superman, as that is specified in the OP.
@FinalStar86: @FinalStar86 said:
Oblivion is a terrible cosmic entity with no feats, in fact he only appeared in Quasar's series where he did jack, and in the Iceman mini where he got owned by him. He's another useless cosmic like Hunger was. Supes wins [even though Bobby is my favorite mutant]
Powers and abilities
As a cosmic Abstract, Oblivion is one of the most powerful beings. A mere aspect of Oblivion, Mikaboshi, was able to destroy almost all of the multiverse.
Despite the fact that Cyttorak was able to keep his avatar, Juggernaut, alive even after he was reduced to bones, he was powerless to stop Oblivion from aging Juggernaut to death within his own realm.
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