@jayankar: by that logic Black Adam beats Odin
Superman vs Black Adam
@amendment50: If he uses all the power effectively sure he can.
@amendment50: SHAZAM is the Wizard who gave powers of 6 Egyptian God to Black Adam 5000 years ago is Above Sky father's level and he is Nigh Omnipotent , mystical Omnipresent and Omniscient. So yeah If gave Black Adam the powers of 6 gods that means Black Adam is also at High Sky father's level which is = to Odin. So i think Black Adam can match up with Odin too. He is the Baddest Villain in DC.
@amendment50: SHAZAM is the Wizard who gave powers of 6 Egyptian God to Black Adam 5000 years ago is Above Sky father's level and he is Nigh Omnipotent , mystical Omnipresent and Omniscient. So yeah If gave Black Adam the powers of 6 gods that means Black Adam is also at High Sky father's level which is = to Odin. So i think Black Adam can match up with Odin too. He is the Baddest Villain in DC.
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@amendment50: SHAZAM is the Wizard who gave powers of 6 Egyptian God to Black Adam 5000 years ago is Above Sky father's level and he is Nigh Omnipotent , mystical Omnipresent and Omniscient. So yeah If gave Black Adam the powers of 6 gods that means Black Adam is also at High Sky father's level which is = to Odin. So i think Black Adam can match up with Odin too. He is the Baddest Villain in DC.
He isnt on odins level
@supergoku17: black Adam may loose but SHAZAM the wizard is more powerful than Odin dear. You can chech that in comic vine.
Adam may lose to Wonder Woman tomorrow, check out the preview for Dark Knights: Metal
https://i.imgur.com/E7e0n6z.jpg
If adam looses to wonder woman im done with her
Superman wins due to having better feats than Adam in every stat area.
Adam may lose to Wonder Woman tomorrow, check out the preview for Dark Knights: Metal
https://i.imgur.com/E7e0n6z.jpg
That's a variant cover, not the actual preview to Dark Nights: Metal #5. Also, Post Flashpoint Adam is much weaker than Pre Flashpoint Adam and this thread was made when the current versions of Superman and Black Adam were their Pre 52 incarnations.
@zuriel-el: No i didn't said that. Galactus is more powerful than Odin. I know that In Comics Odin Defeated Galactus but at that Time Galactus was Unfed and was on low power and Odin was at full power with Odin Force. Odin is strong i am not saying that Odin is not strong but man Superman and Captain Marvel are not to be considered underrated. They can win 6/10.
Let me get this straight.
You think that Supes and CM can straight up beat Odin for a majority? How exactly? By punches?
You are aware of Odins abilities and upper limit? Example: Have you seen when he tutors Thor with the Odin Force and teaches him how to make an actual sun?
And by extention, you think that Supes and CM beats Thanos even easier?
superman prime is actually adukt superboy, superman prime one million is not ''superman'' he is ''superman prime one million''. the one in this debate is superman and revenge of shazam cant even put thor down woth a majority yet you think he'd take odin? along side a base superman.
dude if you want to speak of composite go to another thread, and ppl will tell you prime one million is featless.
S - for the Wisdom of Solomon As Captain Marvel/Shazam, Billy has instant access to a vast amount of scholarly knowledge and objective. He possesses an excellent mental acuity and nearly infallible wisdom, including an innate understanding of most known languages and sciences. He also has a great understanding of divine phenomena in the mortal world. The wisdom of Solomon provides him with counsel and advice in times of need. In early Captain Marvel stories, Solomon's power also gave Marvel the ability to hypnotize people.
H - for the Strength of Hercules Hercules' power grants Captain Marvel/Shazam superhuman strength comparable to that of the legendary demigod, making him one of DC Comics' strongest characters. He is able to easily bend steel in his bare hands, do the work of several laborers in half the time, toss semi trucks high into the air, punch through walls, and lift massive objects. In the comics, this strength has been compared to that of Superman and other godlike superheroes and villains. The strength of the Golden Age Captain Marvel was unlimited and the character was strong enough to move stars and planets.
A - for the Stamina of Atlas Using Atlas' stamina, Captain Marvel/Shazam can withstand and survive most types of extreme physical assaults, and heal from them within seconds without any seeming discomfort. The stamina of Atlas also prevents him from getting tired and provides him with a supernaturally endowed metabolism preventing fatigue, thirst and hunger.
Z - for the Power of Zeus Zeus' power, besides fueling the magic thunderbolt that transforms Captain Marvel/Shazam, also enhances Marvel's other physical and mental abilities, and grants him resistance against all magic spells and attacks. The hero can use the lightning bolt as a weapon by dodging it and allowing it to strike an opponent or other target. The magic lightning has several uses, such as creating apparatus, restoring damage done to the hero, and providing fuel for magic spells. The current-continuity version of Shazam is able to personally generate and control lightning for various uses. He also can use it readily from his fingertips.
A - for the Courage of Achilles This aspect is mostly psychological and spiritual in nature. The courage of Achilles gives Captain Marvel/Shazam the courage and bravery of the legendary Greek hero. In one story it is claimed to also give him fighting skills.[88] In the Trials of Shazam! miniseries, this was changed temporarily to Achilles' near-invulnerability.[citation needed] It also aids the hero's mental fortitude against most mental attacks.
M - for the Speed of Mercury By channeling Mercury's speed, Captain Marvel/Shazam can move at superhuman speeds and fly, although in older comics he could only leap great distances. The Captain Marvel of pre-1985 stories was also able to travel to the Rock of Eternity by flying faster than the speed of light.
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He is also worthy of Thor's Hammer as he was chosen by the wizard Shazam as the champion of Good which gave him the worthiness of Lifting Thor's hammer.
If Not so then also he can Defeat thor most probably.
And please don't Give Rubbish reply that Through thor's Lightning Bolt he can be Converted into Billy Again cuz thats not Gonna happen because he got powers from the Being who is even more Powerful than Thor's Father Himself.
SHAZAM is Fast enough to dodge almost every attack Of thor and Durable Enough to Withstand even the mightiest blows from Thor. His strength and speed level is at Superman's level or maybe higher + like thor he is also having the ability to Caste various spells. So i think that Shazam aka Captain marvel should win this.
What do you think i would love to know about?
i didn't ask you for what shazam entails.
as for picking thors harmer, being worthy isnt the same as being good.
and his speed of mercury feat is travel not combat, and lol at beating thor with lightning blasts.
shazam isnt as fast as superman either.
(and please reframe from pulling feats from pre new 52 era. if we did this argument would be redundant. cuz silver age super man beats odin as far as im concerned. )
as a favour to me we're using their more recent showings. plus lets use pm's from here on out. and not derail this thread any longer.
Black Adam has been turned into a joke now unfortunately. The same with Shazam. WW easily beat him in Dark Nights. Adam now has 2 recent humiliating defeats. Ultraman and now Wonder Woman. Don’t even let me get started on Shazam. Hasn’t even appeared in Rebirth and they usually show him getting slaughtered in their EU.
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