Superman Runs The Man Of Steel Rip-Offs Gauntlet

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Since time immemorable, successful franchises have spurred rip-offs-copy cats-doppelgangers of the original. And Superman is no exception; in fact, as the original Superhero that began it all, he may be the most copied character ever, in one form or another.

How would the Man Of Steel fare against the characters that most directly, aggressively "borrow" from him?

THE COMBATANTS:

Blue Marvel

Hyperion

Ultra Man

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Gladiator

Captain Marvel

Apollo

Mr. Majestic

Sentry

Supreme

Plutonian

ROUND 1: Rebirth Superman (Post Crisis and N52 feats allowed)

ROUND 2: Pre Crisis Superman, Pre/Post/N52 feats allowed for DC characters

Fight to KO or incapacitate. Ready? BEGIN!

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Sentry and Majestic beat him, Superman wins majority over rest.

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#3  Edited By Guardiandevil83

Supreme

Sentry

Mr Majestic

And Gladiator are going to give him trouble.

Hell, I think Supreme or Majestic can beat him.

Plutonian softens his body to the point he's cheap plaster and punches a hole through his chest.

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Sentry and Majestic beat him, Superman wins majority over rest.

This, but only if Void/DSS are allowed.

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@ready_4_madness: Yeah... Your probably right. But I stand by Sentry, Majestic and Supreme.

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He might stop at Majestic in round 1, but can anyone give me some of Majestic’s durability and combat feats? I’m aware that that he rearranged part of the solar system and has speed on par with Superman, but I haven’t heard anything impressive from him terms of durability or striking feats.

Pre Crisis Clears round 2.

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R1: not beating majestic

R2: pc supes clears

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Death Seed Sentry smashes him apart

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Sentry and Majestic beat him, Superman wins majority over rest.

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Sentry, Majestic and the Plutonian will win. Supes probably can take the others.

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Superman clears.

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This order is actually kind of screwed up, but Sentry (assuming stable), Supreme and Majestic can beat him. Especially if Majestic has his creation blades. Plutonian CAN win, but probably won't

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#14  Edited By TheOneWhoKnows

@guardiandevil83 said: "Plutonian softens his body to the point he's cheap plaster and punches a hole through his chest."

@apex_pretador there is no DS Sentry in this thread (he is being saved for another battle)

@all-father@strider1992 and anyone of a similar opinion,

As long term users who have posted in my threads know, I make it a habit not to comment too much in my own creations (as I enjoy sitting back, and observing the different conclusions people arrive at to the same stimuli, even if I disagree with them)---unless I feel something egregious has been stated, or there is some information that would be pertinent for users to know in making a final decision.

Therefore, in that vein-

Many people are saying Sentry will beat Superman.

Let's see, based on what people have stated in threads, how just "regular" Rebirth Superman (he is a combo of Post Crisis and N52 Supes) would fare against good 'ol Bob:

Sentry is stronger than Superman,

Stronger than a Superman that has the strength to resist Black Holes https://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11120/111200299/4436760-1724815-1340779_154613_lightspeed2vm5_super.jpg and https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11118/111183975/5075682-7969174004-62708.jpg- and even hold the crushing entropy of a black hole http://i.imgur.com/A9qHb7u.jpg powerful enough to destroy the solar system according to the JLA's sophisticated instrumentation http://i.imgur.com/GGrpYL0.jpgin the palm of his hand-to hold in that much power for even a second without getting torn apart, much less as long as Kal did is an unfathomable display of power, and smash meteors-with one shot-big enough to destroy the Earth http://i.imgur.com/b6ISW3b.jpg , and who tore through Imperiex Probes so durable they withstood Darkseid's Omega beams and Poseidon's trident for an extended amount of time, and who an entire army of "solar converted" Daxamites could not put a single dent into a Probe.

Really.

And with sun dips, The Man Of Steel has done things like increase his power to where he broke Darkseid's arm, pummeled him into semi consciousness, and super speed rushed him onto the Source Wall, and absorbed enough solar energy to increase his power to near Pre Crisis levels to beat back The Brainiac/Imperiex combo http://i.imgur.com/OUeJvML.jpg---Kal not only moved the planet Warworld, but against the counter force of rockets propelling the planet at their maximum speeds-which was faster than the speed of light-as well

can probably kill him with energy projection,

Superman's "energy projection" tanking feats include absorbing half a galaxy destroying amount of anti sunlight from Megaddon http://imgur.com/a/aHR4A and smiling afterwards, withstanding a supernova 50 times bigger than Keppler's supernova despite being in a Suneater and receiving blistering red sun radiation blasts at the time http://imgur.com/a/5fpnT; and except for saying "UUUH", tanked blasts from The Void Hound when this devastating, has no capacity to show mercy or "hold back" it's power construct was trying to terminate Kal

http://imgur.com/a/ZvaG2 (just a test run of it's blasts destroyed 10 Star Systems in one gohttp://i.imgur.com/2gREOpX.jpg)

and this kill shot by Gog on Superman

http://s738.photobucket.com/user/PhilosophiaKMC/media/GogStaff1.jpg.html

http://s738.photobucket.com/user/PhilosophiaKMC/media/GogStaff2.jpg.html

http://s738.photobucket.com/user/PhilosophiaKMC/media/GogStaff3.jpg.html

http://s738.photobucket.com/user/PhilosophiaKMC/media/GogStaff4.jpg.html

Kingdom Gog’s staff is very powerful, because, as it has the combined power of the Emerald Energy of the Guardians of the Universe, the cosmic energy of the Source, and the MAGICAL might of Shazam and Zeus http://i.imgur.com/qDBgsb3.jpg-- oops, to Gog's startled bafflement, Superman withstands the blast without a mark on him then rescues his various JLA and JSA colleagues---Sentry-for sure-has energy projection power above all of these incidents?

Not to mention, if Superman didn't want to be bothered with finding out whether he could tank the blasts he could vibrate to intangibility and let the blasts pass harmlessly through him like he did when he let Doomsday's fists, flame breath, and eyeball energy beams do in Superman issue 175, and the combined energy blasts of Mongul and Mongal do in Superman issue 170 (this would also be helpful in preventing other attacks like matter manipulation from being an effective assault against Supes; doing this would also seem to be an effective way of preventing others with similar abilities, like Plutonian, from trying the same kind of thing).

could drain him of his solar radiation

A) it is highly doubtful Supes can be drained by him, since as he's doing it Kal will be absorbing that energy right back from him. Even the most minute amount or strain of heat/solar energy can be drained by Supes from a person (like Rampage, and this is the WEAKER JOHN BYRNE version of Kal)

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or Megaddon http://imgur.com/a/aHR4A or thing http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/60473/1750252-1311323_electricalcharge_super.jpg or when Superman sun dipped and absorbed enough solar energy to increase his power to near Pre Crisis levels to beat back The Brainiac/Imperiex combo http://i.imgur.com/OUeJvML.jpg

So given the above examples it simply defies logic to claim Superman, who drained-fairly quickly-a half a galaxy destroying amount of anti sunlight from Megaddon will have much trouble reabsorbing his own solar energy back from Sentry, probably in mid transfer. Even if one argued Bob can handle more energy than Kal--the energy in question in this scenario is Superman's own solar energy, which he would have no problem re absorbing, and retaining.

The facts above, along with Supes surviving draining from Parasite (who can drain any form of energy, and can drain people down to their DNA and become them) make it clear that "draining" Superman is not a sure thing. Superman NATURALLY, CASUALLY absorbs all kinds of solar energy not just from the sun, but from neighboring stars, quasars, dwarf stars, even the secondary solar energy found in the Earth and the photosynthesis solar energy stored in plants---therefore Sentry really has no way to prevent Superman re absorbing his own solar energy back. And (B) due to Kal's nanosecond https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/72524/3282457-7363874695-26303.jpg , fraction of a nanosecond http://imgur.com/a/Kizn3 , attosecond, http://www.geeksaresexy.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/sm_709_dylux_-9-copy-e1300679300858.jpghttp://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111130781/3556932-1976765855-26290.jpg-this catching Barry Allen Flash incident (where Barry was moving so fast he was, quote, "running faster than time" and warping reality) was confirmed as an attosecond feat by the DC sanctioned writer of the story Chris Roberson

faster than teleportation (Superman flew from Pluto , back to Earth in the same amount of time, or faster , than the Outlaws were able toteleport back to earth. That is 4.67 billion miles , in seconds, and Supes did this despite the fact he had to first work around Tamaranian cloaking tech designed to hide them from him)

https://i.stack.imgur.com/hRZQI.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/7/72524/3126260-2468752429-31002.jpg

https://i.stack.imgur.com/TYrkI.jp and faster than advanced alien thought combat speed http://imgur.com/a/bDvt6 t

it's unlikely Sentry will get the chance to try anything before The Man Of Steel attacks Sentry first.

or could just probably ignore him and atomize him. (Oh yeah by the way, Sentry's got molecular manipulation).

Superman's molecular manipulation resistance feats include withstanding his molecules being transformed by mega powerful opponents such as the husband and wife team of Sodom and Gamorra http://imgur.com/a/eX4IS Skyhook http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/81805/1686017-supestransmutation.jpg who was empowered by Blaze, a Death Goddess powerful enough to challenge Neron for control of The Nether Realms and WIN; Disciple who was powered by several Elder Gods and-though he altered the bodies/molecules of the JLA-including Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, and Kyle Rayner Green Lantern-Kal tanked his efforts, smiled, said "Is that the best you got?" then snatched his staffhttp://imgur.com/a/JvgnY; and Darkseid during the "Legends" mini series (who's Omega Effect was attuned to Superman's exact molecular structure, yet Kal fought back against this)http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/45351/2350861-1066461_1183yv_super.jpg (and here is the rarely seen next scene where Supes immediately hits Darkseid back (Superman states that Kryptonite is a worse feeling)

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There's more on stand by, but the above examples are MORE than enough to prove the point. There is no evidence of Sentry's powers being SOOO much more "special" than those beings that he could-FOR SURE- achieve what they could not

Sentry will defeat him with TP

The following scans and links are Superman, in order, resisting Dominus http://i.imgur.com/2GnY2dp.jpg;

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Martian Manhunter on at least three occasions, including the above incident (note how a shocked Jonn' states that Supes, quote, "forced me out" of Kal's mind-there are few beings who could even momentarily STALL the Martian, much less do THAT); Braniac http://imgur.com/a/VCnVG (note how, despite Braniac amping up ever increasing "more power" in his TP assault, he is not able to take over Kal, ultimately destroying HIMSELF in his attempts); Maxwell Lord, even after several months of clandestine work, and finally having Supes under his control is not able to force Kal to kill http://i.imgur.com/Y1oio8F.jpg resists mind domination attacks from Neron;

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above, defies Eradicator (note how, as Superman resists Eradicator, he helpfully remembers several OTHER powerful TP's that he has resisted over the years; I couldn't find the scans where Kal soon uses his devastating heat vision to achieve victory); and resists the simultaneous mental AND spiritual assault of "The Light Of Heaven" from Asmodel the Angel, which when effective results in instant madness http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/wonder-woman-vs-magneto-1714954/?page=5 (post 209; click the "spoilers" icon, it's the third scan). There are many, Many, MANY more examples so TP against Superman is NOT a "cinch win" for Sentry (unless someone wants to argue that Bob's TP is somehow more "special" than ALL those people I mentioned).

Superman can't destroy Sentry because he regenerates, so he wins

(A) Sentry can be KO'd, something a Superman who can one shot smash a meteor big and dense enough to destroy the Earth http://i.imgur.com/b6ISW3b.jpg (which, since Kal can smash something that can destroy a planet makes him a planet smasher) is more than capable of doing, and a KO is a win

(B) If Superman can discern the natural vibrational frequency of the abstract form of Darkseid and, in a separate incident the frequency of a large, omniverse threatening, molecularly unstable planet, match their frequencies, then counter vibrate them to oblivion...

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...it defies logic that he can't do the same to a not nearly as large, 6 foot or so humanoid

(C) If all else fails, Kal can BFR Sentry into the Phantom Zone, or, while giving him planet smashing punishment on the way there, super speed rush Bob onto the Source Wall.

The above evidence would seem to put the idea that Sentry could beat Rebirth Superman-for sure-in doubt; it would also seem to indicate Plutonian manipulating Kal's body not so easy a thing to do, as well; and The Man Of Steel's other powers and strategies would seem to be an effective way of defeating Majestic and Supreme-at least enough to ensure that those characters couldn't "crush" Supes.

And is it being said that in the second round, Pre Crisis Superman would-for sure-be defeated by those characters as well?

Please elaborate.

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@theonewhoknows: Didn't see the rules, my bad.

R1 he should be able to beat most them barring Majestic (this is assuming he has his creation blades)

R2 : Beats them all.

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Majestic, Plutonian and Supreme and Sentry (depending on the versions) are the only ones that can beat him.

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Maj and Supreme definitely stomp him like badly.

Plutonian should beat him but he lacks combat feats

the rest dont really have a shot.

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I hate to keep doing this, but I don't know that much about quite a few of them and I have no CLUE who Plutonian is.

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Unfortunately I don't know all the characters in the gauntlet. For round one I suppose (from what I see here too) that Majestic (and maybe Plutonian) might beat him, those are the fights that can go both ways and Superman might have the second chance.

For round two however pre-crisis Superman should clear

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R1: Superman is a blood-stain.

R2: Comes down to PC Superman vs DS Sentry.

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Sentry and Majestic beat him, Superman wins majority over rest.

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Stops at Mr. Majestic for Round 1. Clears for Round 2.

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This is massively out of order.

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Clear

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round 1 - Plutonian and mr.m can take him down

round 2 - superman solo all of them in the same time