DC team has pre and post crisis, new 52 & Rebirth
Marvel 616 as usual
The versions of the character are the same as the pictures above
All bloodlusted, no BFR
Place: indestructible earth
I made more research on all of them and honestly Hunter Prey Doomsday easily solos
And Darkseid by existing oneshots them all
Superman may only lose to Death Seed but might because Supes still has much better feats than DS Sentry but his haxes are broken
@fantaman12: some people think that WBH can beat Doomsday and Darkseid individually 🤔
Trion Juggernaut? The one who was smacking dimensions? Yeah team two in a landslide, Superman doesn't belong here
Sentrytards strikes again with their immortality No Limit Fallacy and lifting exitar feat. Sure it is some 7-dimensional lvl feats but this is joke compared to what Supes, Darkseid and Doomsday has done and this is only lifting strenght. DSS is far inferior in rest of stats and less verastile compared to Superman feats
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As to your argument, it's one big strawman. (3) people said DSS could solo, no one in this thread said sh*t about immortality, Exitar feat, or 7-dimenstional lvl feat (WTF?!?!).
In fact you said in your first comment Superman may only lose to Death Seed, yet you say now (4 hours later) DSS is joke compared to Supes. Make up your mind.
Also, next time, use your main account, not your stupid alt.
Later!
Sentrytards strikes again with their immortality No Limit Fallacy and lifting exitar feat. Sure it is some 7-dimensional lvl feats but this is joke compared to what Supes, Darkseid and Doomsday has done and this is only lifting strenght. DSS is far inferior in rest of stats and less verastile compared to Superman feats
Well, one has to see that, with World Breaker even around, his omnidirectional gamma waves will be battering the surface area where the fight is taking place, meaning that both teams will have to struggle against that to do, well, anything here. if anything, he can annoy both of the teams here and badly hurt them.
Guys like Superman and Sentry are going to have trouble already with the amount of power output occurring as soon as the fight starts, regardless of their speed or regen (in reference to DS's ability to survive without the need for vital organs.) so really, this'll be likely a battle of bricks rather than a speed contest, if we are to be honest here. No one here is doing much in terms of speed.
Darkseid is quite inconsistent with his power levels, outside of authors trying to give him good feats for the sake of it, some consider him to be a Superman level threat that he can deal with by himself, and some have actually came out saying that Darkseid was fundamentally weaker than Superman on a physical basis. For the sake of not being bias, I'll be nice and say that he might be able to do some damage here.
Hunter/Prey Doomsday.....is pretty weak, tbh. His actualised feats outside of a implied universal adaptation ability aren't very good outside of beating up Superman and Darkseid.....teambuster level? Doubt it.
If Hulk just by standing around can barrage the DC team, then him moving and striking is going to be a whole bigger problem. Death Seed isn't remarkable, but his unique status gives him a edge here, and Trion Juggernaut is a significant powerhouse.
Lol at HP Doomsday soloing. Fantaman's outerversal DD strikes again.
Marvel Team murks hard
Marvel team stomps.
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As to your argument, it's one big strawman. (3) people said DSS could solo, no one in this thread said sh*t about immortality, Exitar feat, or 7-dimenstional lvl feat (WTF?!?!).
In fact you said in your first comment Superman may only lose to Death Seed, yet you say now (4 hours later) DSS is joke compared to Supes. Make up your mind.
Also, next time, use your main account, not your stupid alt.
Later!
Sentrytards strikes again with their immortality No Limit Fallacy and lifting exitar feat. Sure it is some 7-dimensional lvl feats but this is joke compared to what Supes, Darkseid and Doomsday has done and this is only lifting strenght. DSS is far inferior in rest of stats and less verastile compared to Superman feats
My previous was banned. i said Superman might lose. Not definitely loses. Read all words and comprehend context. Superman has about 65 universe lvl feat in Post Crisis and can be ( as result ) purely scaled to Pre Crisis Superman
Flagged.
As to your argument, it's one big strawman. (3) people said DSS could solo, no one in this thread said sh*t about immortality, Exitar feat, or 7-dimenstional lvl feat (WTF?!?!).
In fact you said in your first comment Superman may only lose to Death Seed, yet you say now (4 hours later) DSS is joke compared to Supes. Make up your mind.
Also, next time, use your main account, not your stupid alt.
Later!
Sentrytards strikes again with their immortality No Limit Fallacy and lifting exitar feat. Sure it is some 7-dimensional lvl feats but this is joke compared to what Supes, Darkseid and Doomsday has done and this is only lifting strenght. DSS is far inferior in rest of stats and less verastile compared to Superman feats
My previous was banned. i said Superman might lose. Not definitely loses. Read all words and comprehend context. Superman has about 65 universe lvl feat in Post Crisis and can be ( as result ) purely scaled to Pre Crisis Superman
Does that make The General like, multi Universal because he outmuscled Superman then, thus making him stronger?
@fantaman12: You aren't that smart are you?
"Superman may only lose to Death Seed" - This means that both can win..
"DSS is joke compared to Supes." - This means this Sentry doesn't have an iota of a chance of beating Superman
Contradiction.
Also, everyone besides WBH from Marvel solo this.
Trion Juggs >> DSS >>>>>>>>>>> WBH = Darkseid > HP Doomsday >>> Sueprman
@fantaman12: You aren't that smart are you?
"Superman may only lose to Death Seed" - This means that both can win..
"DSS is joke compared to Supes." - This means this Sentry doesn't have an iota of a chance of beating Superman
Contradiction.
Also, everyone besides WBH from Marvel solo this.
Trion Juggs >> DSS >>>>>>>>>>> WBH = Darkseid > HP Doomsday >>> Sueprman
Sorry i am not gonna argue u. Darkseid oneshots them all. Creator of thread do not specify version or even do not mention avatars. So that means i can use base form so True Form. And True Form just oneshots them without even realisng what is going on. DSS is 7-d ( non consistent but let highball him for sake to not accusing me of being biased ). Darkseid is outerversal via his consistent feats as Godsphere being. Superman from Post Crisis is Low 2-C via most of his consistent feats ( 66 universe lvl feats ). He just punches Hulk simply sending him to the Source Wall and RIP WBH or throws Hulk across time. They won't even keep up with Superman. What is gonna Trion do to HP Doomsday ? I see only copying power. Doomsday clapped Motherbox amped Superman and in Boomtube amped solos easily Apocalypse. And Darkseid Omega Beams > Trion Juggernaut. Breaking Timespace continuum is supposed be impressive ? Post Crisis Superman did this too.
Sorry but rules never specified version of Darkseid. So that means we use pure base forms so True Form already
@fantaman12: I will not argue with you since you are using VSBattle wiki as a source.
@fantaman12: i really don't know much about Darkseid, can you tell which version of him makes this battle more fair and not a mismatch?
"I wonder why." I type sarcastically.
@fantaman12: I will not argue with you since you are using VSBattle wiki as a source.
I am only using tiering system. VS Battle wiki claims Post Crisis as 4-B. I am using only tiering system but not their profiles because their profiles are trash.
MCU Thanos said ( contextwise ) he is gonna to wipe every atom in universe and rewrite it what is 3-A feat.
VSBW: 5-A
And VSBW is not only one site who has suck tiering system There are tons of other sites with such tiering system.
@fantaman12: i really don't know much about Darkseid, can you tell which version of him makes this battle more fair and not a mismatch?
Post Flashpoint avatars makes fair like New 52 avatars
@fantaman12: i really don't know much about Darkseid, can you tell which version of him makes this battle more fair and not a mismatch?
GDS Darkseid.
Well, one has to see that, with World Breaker even around, his omnidirectional gamma waves will be battering the surface area where the fight is taking place, meaning that both teams will have to struggle against that to do, well, anything here. if anything, he can annoy both of the teams here and badly hurt them.
Guys like Superman and Sentry are going to have trouble already with the amount of power output occurring as soon as the fight starts, regardless of their speed or regen (in reference to DS's ability to survive without the need for vital organs.) so really, this'll be likely a battle of bricks rather than a speed contest, if we are to be honest here. No one here is doing much in terms of speed.
Darkseid is quite inconsistent with his power levels, outside of authors trying to give him good feats for the sake of it, some consider him to be a Superman level threat that he can deal with by himself, and some have actually came out saying that Darkseid was fundamentally weaker than Superman on a physical basis. For the sake of not being bias, I'll be nice and say that he might be able to do some damage here.
Hunter/Prey Doomsday.....is pretty weak, tbh. His actualised feats outside of a implied universal adaptation ability aren't very good outside of beating up Superman and Darkseid.....teambuster level? Doubt it.
If Hulk just by standing around can barrage the DC team, then him moving and striking is going to be a whole bigger problem. Death Seed isn't remarkable, but his unique status gives him a edge here, and Trion Juggernaut is a significant powerhouse.
Who here is going to struggle with not even continental level blasts?
@supermanfan1938: i changed it a bit
Now it's more fair
@kevd4wg: Superman, for one, would be annoyed by it, and it would hamper his speed here.
Sentry would be battered by it and might have problems getting something off
And keep in mind, Hulk making a single step was enough to nearly sink the entire eastern coast, what do you think will happen when he's not only walking around, but slamming people down with his force, or punching them, or jumping around?
You underestimate how much damage he can do here to both teams just by being around them.
Prime One Million negs now. Before somebody says no feats. Prime 1 mil scales off Kal who is galaxy level. Not only that but he's the strongest meta human ever and probably millions of times stronger than base Superman. He also is potentially universal considering he could have stopped Atom's universe from collapsing.
Prime One Million and DD are out of their league still.
The problem here is that GDS Darkseid would beat WBH, but would lose to either on team Marvel.
Marvel still.
GDS Darkseid would slap around sentry and trion juggs.
@xanman2000: What are his feats during GDS? Any cited stuff you got there?
@xanman2000: What are his feats during GDS? Any cited stuff you got there?
He would be low skyfather level.. I have no scans yet but he beat a few low-skyfathers to gain powers..
@byondeon: What kind of "skyfather" dudes tho
@professorrespect: I would say the best is Mordru that he beat
@xanman2000: What are his feats during GDS? Any cited stuff you got there?
He was able to fight Pre-crisis Superman and Pre Crisis Supergirl at the same time who were both amped by higherfather, No-sold mon el's hits then proceeded to one-shot him, Has drained mordru though he was weakened IIRC and was also able to drain time trapper. That's about it tho he doesn't have too many feats.
@xanman2000: I mean, I guess that's pretty good? It's hard to judge pre crisis characters because they change stats between stories for the most part. They get great high showings and then get really bad stuff a few issues later.
@xanman2000: I mean, I guess that's pretty good? It's hard to judge pre crisis characters because they change stats between stories for the most part. They get great high showings and then get really bad stuff a few issues later.
Yeah, honestly it just depends on how you scale him to the Kryptonians due to his lack of feats.
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