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In this gauntlet Superman has to speed blitz a target before his opponent can the round is won when the target is KO'd or incapacitated. The target for each round well be Spider-Man far from home version he can run and defend himself if he can. How far can statueman go!!!

R1-Abomination (MCU)

R2-Ultron (MCU)

R3-Thanos (MCU)

R4-Hela (MCU)

R5-Quick-Silver (MCU)

R6-Carol Danvers (MCU)

R7-The Flash (CW season 4)

R8-Quick-Silver (Fox)

R9-Silver Surfer (Fox)

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Stops at R7, defnintley stops at 8, and 9.

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Probably 7. 8 isn't even a contest.

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Flash is wayyy wayyy wayyy faster than QS given what I hear of him on the forums.

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@wot_m8: Flash have feats that beats QS, however he usually doesn't show it. His outlier feats is definitely above QS but consistently, he isn't

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Superman isn't KOing Thanos, so he stops there

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@byondeon said:

Superman isn't KOing Thanos, so he stops there

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he doesnt have a way to destroy vibranium or knock ai out

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I am pretty sure this is a race to spiderman. It's not if he can blitz the opponent but beat them into blitzing spidey. If that's the case he probably stops at seven though he could stop at six.

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Stops at 7

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@chuggachugga170: Superman isnt blitzing Ultron/Thanos they are both blitzing their own target which is spider-man whoever blitzes and takes down their target first wins.

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Danvers maybe.

Definite stop at Allen.

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Stops at 3, get statued at 5.

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#15  Edited By Juicers

R1-Abomination (MCU) = statue

R2-Ultron (MCU) = statue

R3-Thanos (MCU) = statue

R4-Hela (MCU) = statue

R5-Quick-Silver (MCU) = mach 1, still a statue

R6-Carol Danvers (MCU) = statue, Cap level in combat speed

R7-The Flash (CW season 4) = stops there

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out of order. Gets statued by flash and quicksilver

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Stops at 5

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Stops at 7.

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Stops at 3, get statued at 5.

...No.

Thanos is not blitzing anything faster than Superman can. Superman is not trying to blitz Thanos here, he is trying to blitz Spiderman and so is Thanos.

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@chaoselement said:

Stops at 3, get statued at 5.

...No.

Thanos is not blitzing anything faster than Superman can. Superman is not trying to blitz Thanos here, he is trying to blitz Spiderman and so is Thanos.

Thanos tagged Spider-Man who is faster than Clark, faster than how Clark would have done it.

And QS is Mach 100 therefore he statues Clark.

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Shouldn't make it past 7. What are Silver Surfer's reaction time and speed feats?

Superman is capable of this:

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travels far enough in a split second that the entire background is different on very flat terrain.

@chaoselement: You're insane if you think Thanos is faster than Superman. See gif above.

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Shouldn't make it past 7. What are Silver Surfer's reaction time and speed feats?

Superman is capable of this:

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travels far enough in a split second that the entire background is different on very flat terrain.

@chaoselement: You're insane if you think Thanos is faster than Superman. See gif above.

Silver Surfer is FTL.

Thanos is not much slower than Clark in reactions, Clark is Mach 3 exactly like Thanos.

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@chaoselement: @crunch5481: surfer traveled inter-galactic distances, solid mftl+, he could beat most versions of comic supes in a race.

Although supes has no chance at 7, so it really doesn't matter.

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@chaoselement: @crunch5481: surfer traveled inter-galactic distances, solid mftl+, he could beat most versions of comic supes in a race.

Although supes has no chance at 7, so it really doesn't matter.

This.

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@crunch5481 said:
@chaoselement said:

Stops at 3, get statued at 5.

...No.

Thanos is not blitzing anything faster than Superman can. Superman is not trying to blitz Thanos here, he is trying to blitz Spiderman and so is Thanos.

Thanos tagged Spider-Man who is faster than Clark, faster than how Clark would have done it.

And QS is Mach 100 therefore he statues Clark.

QS is actually Mach 112,524 based on his mansion feat.

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@chaoselement said:
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@chaoselement: @crunch5481: surfer traveled inter-galactic distances,

Woow can u provide me sources and info he travelled at that distance ? And can u prove me his board can enter instant Sol/ftl/MTFL mode just like CW Flashtime speedsters or live action kryptonians or mcu/fox quicksilver or yo-yo ?! Or CW Martians or DCEU Flash

solid mftl+

his best on screen feat is SoL speed as travel from Moon's orbit to to Earth in 2-3 seconds what is SoL speed ( assuming it is like in real life those distances )

, he would get = beat by most versions of comic supes in a race.

Oh really ?! U know Helene Slater Supergirl travelled on her own just fine to Argo City in the end of the movie ( If somebody watched this garbage movie ). Donnerverse Superman is immesurable via time rewind feat. Smallville Supergirl with Legion Ring also travelled mtfl to reach the breach to future. Same as Arrowverse Supergirl ( to come back in time to save family ) or Arrowverse Mon-El ( to return to planet Earth ) did this travelling at interstellar distance where Supergirl-38 and Donnerverse Supes has immesurable reflexes also.

Although supes has no chance at 7,

Prove it Norrin has such reflexes and is fast on his own without Board's help. Prove it

so it really doesn't matter.

This.

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Shouldn't make it past 7. What are Silver Surfer's reaction time and speed feats?

Superman is capable of this:

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travels far enough in a split second that the entire background is different on very flat terrain.

@chaoselement: You're insane if you think Thanos is faster than Superman. See gif above.

Silver Surfer is FTL.

Thanos is not much slower than Clark in reactions, Clark is Mach 3 exactly like Thanos.

Being FTL =/= having fast reaction times, Captain Marvel is proof of that and so is basic logical reasoning

Thanos is WAY slower than Clark in all aspects. Clark is far above Mach 3 in reactions. Thanos is not Mach 3 in reactions that is absurdly high. If Thanos were Mach 3 in reaction then that would mean Iron Man, and Captain America among others are all at least Mach 3 in combat speed since they managed to tag Thanos multiple times in a fight. I'm going to explain the MCU Quicksilver aspect for you.

In Avengers Age of Ultron, Hawkeye fires his Beretta Cheetah upwards at QS to break the glass he is standing on. In this scene QS watches the bullet move in slow motion thus making this the easiest way to calculate his reaction time. The gun fired a .380 ACP. (all the gun info is courtesy of the internet movie firearm database and wikipedia)

Wonder Woman also has a similar scene in Justice League. She's sees the bullets fired from the terrorist in slow motion as well and we know his gun is a Heckler & Koch HK416.

Onto the math:

The HK416 in Justice League had a 10.4 inch barrel. Wikipedia states that the muzzle velocity range from 730 m/s (9 in barrel) to 917 m/s (19.9 in barrel). Using linear interpolation between these two points we get ~17.16 m/s per inch of added barrel. This means that a good estimate for the 10.4 inch barrel muzzle velocity would be ~754 m/s. In the slow motion scene where WW is saving the hostages the bullet is shown traveling at about 8 in/s. Converting 8 in/s to m/s give us 0.2 m/s. This decrease in speed can be directly used to gauge Wonder Woman's reaction speed. 754 meters per second divided by 0.2 equals 3770. This means in her super speed she perceives time 3770 times slower than normal.

The Beretta Cheetah fires the .380 ACP round and that is what Quicksilver sees traveling at about 4 inches per second. The .380 ACP round has a velocity of 312 meters per second. Converting 4 in/s to m/s gives us 0.1m/s. 312 m/s divided by 0.1m/s gives us a speed factor of 3120. This means that Quicksilver was perceiving time 3120 times faster than normal.

Quicksilver's speed factor of 3120 is 650 lower than Wonder Woman's factor which was 3770. Now to put this into perspective this would mean that Wonder Woman would have seen the bullet Quicksilver perceived traveling at 0.1 m/s as traveling at 0.083 m/s. So with these numbers Wonder Woman perceives time about 1.2x faster than Quicksilver. Now when accounting for error and other factors this essentially makes Wonder Woman and Quicksilver equal in reaction time.

Now Superman is without a doubt faster than Wonder Woman. This was made ABUNDANTLY clear in the movie. He is so much faster than Wonder Woman that he was easily able to blitz her and when he was reacting to Flash for the first time she was none the wiser. Superman was consistently portrayed as Flash's equal in speed throughout Justice League. An argument could be made that Flash has slightly better reaction time, because he evaded punches but at the end of the movie when they raced and Superman was in a clear and focused mind they both started the race at the exact same time when they heard the crack and then they were both in a tie when the shot slowed back down (Superman might actually have been ahead because of his arms). So Superman and Flash are essentially equal. This means we can use Flash and WW's interaction when Flash gave her the sword back as a benchmark. In this scene, Wonder Woman is clearly outsped by Flash by a large factor and Flash is still moving in superspeed while the entire scene is frozen. This should be more than enough evidence to say that Superman is substantially faster than Wonder Woman and by basic logic Quicksilver as well. But there's more, Wonder Woman also had trouble tagging Steppenwolf. She was never shown to be able to react in any special way to Steppenwolf whereas when Superman interacted with Steppenwolf it was made very clear that they were on different levels of speed to the point where Superman was smiling and thereby indicating that he was not even trying. So we have Superman not even trying and he easily performs a reaction and combat speed feat out of Wonder Woman's league. There is no denying the fact that Superman is faster than Wonder Woman and by extension Quicksilver. Because if anything Quicksilver is actually slower than Wonder Woman rather than being equal in combat speed.

THEREFORE: Clark clears Round 5- MCU Quicksilver.

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@kingfrieza said:

@chaoselement: @crunch5481: surfer traveled inter-galactic distances, solid mftl+, he could beat most versions of comic supes in a race.

Although supes has no chance at 7, so it really doesn't matter.

This.

Irrelevant to a small distance blitz. Distance is unspecified here so 10 feet is assumed per standard rules. Reaction Speed becomes main factor then proven acceleration and speed within atmosphere.

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@chaoselement said:
@crunch5481 said:
@chaoselement said:

Stops at 3, get statued at 5.

...No.

Thanos is not blitzing anything faster than Superman can. Superman is not trying to blitz Thanos here, he is trying to blitz Spiderman and so is Thanos.

Thanos tagged Spider-Man who is faster than Clark, faster than how Clark would have done it.

And QS is Mach 100 therefore he statues Clark.

QS is actually Mach 112,524 based on his mansion feat.

Wrong Quicksilver. MCU Quicksilver was being referenced not FOX Quicksilver.

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Ultron nor Thanos are getting knocked out.

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@chaoselement said:
@crunch5481 said:

Shouldn't make it past 7. What are Silver Surfer's reaction time and speed feats?

Superman is capable of this:

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travels far enough in a split second that the entire background is different on very flat terrain.

@chaoselement: You're insane if you think Thanos is faster than Superman. See gif above.

Silver Surfer is FTL.

Thanos is not much slower than Clark in reactions, Clark is Mach 3 exactly like Thanos.

Being FTL =/= having fast reaction times, Captain Marvel is proof of that and so is basic logical reasoning

Thanos is WAY slower than Clark in all aspects. Clark is far above Mach 3 in reactions. Thanos is not Mach 3 in reactions that is absurdly high. If Thanos were Mach 3 in reaction then that would mean Iron Man, and Captain America among others are all at least Mach 3 in combat speed since they managed to tag Thanos multiple times in a fight. I'm going to explain the MCU Quicksilver aspect for you.

In Avengers Age of Ultron, Hawkeye fires his Beretta Cheetah upwards at QS to break the glass he is standing on. In this scene QS watches the bullet move in slow motion thus making this the easiest way to calculate his reaction time. The gun fired a .380 ACP. (all the gun info is courtesy of the internet movie firearm database and wikipedia)

Wonder Woman also has a similar scene in Justice League. She's sees the bullets fired from the terrorist in slow motion as well and we know his gun is a Heckler & Koch HK416.

Onto the math:

The HK416 in Justice League had a 10.4 inch barrel. Wikipedia states that the muzzle velocity range from 730 m/s (9 in barrel) to 917 m/s (19.9 in barrel). Using linear interpolation between these two points we get ~17.16 m/s per inch of added barrel. This means that a good estimate for the 10.4 inch barrel muzzle velocity would be ~754 m/s. In the slow motion scene where WW is saving the hostages the bullet is shown traveling at about 8 in/s. Converting 8 in/s to m/s give us 0.2 m/s. This decrease in speed can be directly used to gauge Wonder Woman's reaction speed. 754 meters per second divided by 0.2 equals 3770. This means in her super speed she perceives time 3770 times slower than normal.

The Beretta Cheetah fires the .380 ACP round and that is what Quicksilver sees traveling at about 4 inches per second. The .380 ACP round has a velocity of 312 meters per second. Converting 4 in/s to m/s gives us 0.1m/s. 312 m/s divided by 0.1m/s gives us a speed factor of 3120. This means that Quicksilver was perceiving time 3120 times faster than normal.

Quicksilver's speed factor of 3120 is 650 lower than Wonder Woman's factor which was 3770. Now to put this into perspective this would mean that Wonder Woman would have seen the bullet Quicksilver perceived traveling at 0.1 m/s as traveling at 0.083 m/s. So with these numbers Wonder Woman perceives time about 1.2x faster than Quicksilver. Now when accounting for error and other factors this essentially makes Wonder Woman and Quicksilver equal in reaction time.

Now Superman is without a doubt faster than Wonder Woman. This was made ABUNDANTLY clear in the movie. He is so much faster than Wonder Woman that he was easily able to blitz her and when he was reacting to Flash for the first time she was none the wiser. Superman was consistently portrayed as Flash's equal in speed throughout Justice League. An argument could be made that Flash has slightly better reaction time, because he evaded punches but at the end of the movie when they raced and Superman was in a clear and focused mind they both started the race at the exact same time when they heard the crack and then they were both in a tie when the shot slowed back down (Superman might actually have been ahead because of his arms). So Superman and Flash are essentially equal. This means we can use Flash and WW's interaction when Flash gave her the sword back as a benchmark. In this scene, Wonder Woman is clearly outsped by Flash by a large factor and Flash is still moving in superspeed while the entire scene is frozen. This should be more than enough evidence to say that Superman is substantially faster than Wonder Woman and by basic logic Quicksilver as well. But there's more, Wonder Woman also had trouble tagging Steppenwolf. She was never shown to be able to react in any special way to Steppenwolf whereas when Superman interacted with Steppenwolf it was made very clear that they were on different levels of speed to the point where Superman was smiling and thereby indicating that he was not even trying. So we have Superman not even trying and he easily performs a reaction and combat speed feat out of Wonder Woman's league. There is no denying the fact that Superman is faster than Wonder Woman and by extension Quicksilver. Because if anything Quicksilver is actually slower than Wonder Woman rather than being equal in combat speed.

THEREFORE: Clark clears Round 5- MCU Quicksilver.

I will address all of this later.

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@hulk_like_fire said:
@chaoselement said:
@crunch5481 said:
@chaoselement said:

Stops at 3, get statued at 5.

...No.

Thanos is not blitzing anything faster than Superman can. Superman is not trying to blitz Thanos here, he is trying to blitz Spiderman and so is Thanos.

Thanos tagged Spider-Man who is faster than Clark, faster than how Clark would have done it.

And QS is Mach 100 therefore he statues Clark.

QS is actually Mach 112,524 based on his mansion feat.

Wrong Quicksilver. MCU Quicksilver was being referenced not FOX Quicksilver.

MCU QS is Mach 4, there is no way he statues DCEU Supes.

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@crunch5481 said:
@hulk_like_fire said:
@chaoselement said:
@crunch5481 said:
@chaoselement said:

Stops at 3, get statued at 5.

...No.

Thanos is not blitzing anything faster than Superman can. Superman is not trying to blitz Thanos here, he is trying to blitz Spiderman and so is Thanos.

Thanos tagged Spider-Man who is faster than Clark, faster than how Clark would have done it.

And QS is Mach 100 therefore he statues Clark.

QS is actually Mach 112,524 based on his mansion feat.

Wrong Quicksilver. MCU Quicksilver was being referenced not FOX Quicksilver.

MCU QS is Mach 4, there is no way he statues DCEU Supes.

DCEU Superman is Mach 3 IIRC.

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Spider-Man who is faster than Clark,

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@hulk_like_fire said:
@crunch5481 said:
@hulk_like_fire said:
@chaoselement said:
@crunch5481 said:
@chaoselement said:

Stops at 3, get statued at 5.

...No.

Thanos is not blitzing anything faster than Superman can. Superman is not trying to blitz Thanos here, he is trying to blitz Spiderman and so is Thanos.

Thanos tagged Spider-Man who is faster than Clark, faster than how Clark would have done it.

And QS is Mach 100 therefore he statues Clark.

QS is actually Mach 112,524 based on his mansion feat.

Wrong Quicksilver. MCU Quicksilver was being referenced not FOX Quicksilver.

MCU QS is Mach 4, there is no way he statues DCEU Supes.

DCEU Superman is Mach 3 IIRC.

mach 20

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@chaoselement: Will u answer me to comment #27 or i just beaten u again ?

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Lol at Clark being slower than Quicksilver.

He stops at 7.

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Lol at Clark being slower than Quicksilver.

He stops at 7.

Can you answer my PM? .... it's been a week about that.

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@chaoselement: Will u answer me to comment #27 or i just beaten u again ?

Where? Surfer is too fast in term of travel speed.

@chaoselement said:
@hulk_like_fire said:
@crunch5481 said:
@hulk_like_fire said:
@chaoselement said:
@crunch5481 said:
@chaoselement said:

Stops at 3, get statued at 5.

...No.

Thanos is not blitzing anything faster than Superman can. Superman is not trying to blitz Thanos here, he is trying to blitz Spiderman and so is Thanos.

Thanos tagged Spider-Man who is faster than Clark, faster than how Clark would have done it.

And QS is Mach 100 therefore he statues Clark.

QS is actually Mach 112,524 based on his mansion feat.

Wrong Quicksilver. MCU Quicksilver was being referenced not FOX Quicksilver.

MCU QS is Mach 4, there is no way he statues DCEU Supes.

DCEU Superman is Mach 3 IIRC.

mach 20

Based on? IIRC he failed to statue bullets.

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@crunch5481 said:

Shouldn't make it past 7. What are Silver Surfer's reaction time and speed feats?

Superman is capable of this:

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travels far enough in a split second that the entire background is different on very flat terrain.

@chaoselement: You're insane if you think Thanos is faster than Superman. See gif above.

Silver Surfer is FTL.

Thanos is not much slower than Clark in reactions, Clark is Mach 3 exactly like Thanos.

Being FTL =/= having fast reaction times, Captain Marvel is proof of that and so is basic logical reasoning

Thanos is WAY slower than Clark in all aspects. Clark is far above Mach 3 in reactions. Thanos is not Mach 3 in reactions that is absurdly high. If Thanos were Mach 3 in reaction then that would mean Iron Man, and Captain America among others are all at least Mach 3 in combat speed since they managed to tag Thanos multiple times in a fight. I'm going to explain the MCU Quicksilver aspect for you.

In Avengers Age of Ultron, Hawkeye fires his Beretta Cheetah upwards at QS to break the glass he is standing on. In this scene QS watches the bullet move in slow motion thus making this the easiest way to calculate his reaction time. The gun fired a .380 ACP. (all the gun info is courtesy of the internet movie firearm database and wikipedia)

Wonder Woman also has a similar scene in Justice League. She's sees the bullets fired from the terrorist in slow motion as well and we know his gun is a Heckler & Koch HK416.

Onto the math:

The HK416 in Justice League had a 10.4 inch barrel. Wikipedia states that the muzzle velocity range from 730 m/s (9 in barrel) to 917 m/s (19.9 in barrel). Using linear interpolation between these two points we get ~17.16 m/s per inch of added barrel. This means that a good estimate for the 10.4 inch barrel muzzle velocity would be ~754 m/s. In the slow motion scene where WW is saving the hostages the bullet is shown traveling at about 8 in/s. Converting 8 in/s to m/s give us 0.2 m/s. This decrease in speed can be directly used to gauge Wonder Woman's reaction speed. 754 meters per second divided by 0.2 equals 3770. This means in her super speed she perceives time 3770 times slower than normal.

The Beretta Cheetah fires the .380 ACP round and that is what Quicksilver sees traveling at about 4 inches per second. The .380 ACP round has a velocity of 312 meters per second. Converting 4 in/s to m/s gives us 0.1m/s. 312 m/s divided by 0.1m/s gives us a speed factor of 3120. This means that Quicksilver was perceiving time 3120 times faster than normal.

Quicksilver's speed factor of 3120 is 650 lower than Wonder Woman's factor which was 3770. Now to put this into perspective this would mean that Wonder Woman would have seen the bullet Quicksilver perceived traveling at 0.1 m/s as traveling at 0.083 m/s. So with these numbers Wonder Woman perceives time about 1.2x faster than Quicksilver. Now when accounting for error and other factors this essentially makes Wonder Woman and Quicksilver equal in reaction time.

Now Superman is without a doubt faster than Wonder Woman. This was made ABUNDANTLY clear in the movie. He is so much faster than Wonder Woman that he was easily able to blitz her and when he was reacting to Flash for the first time she was none the wiser. Superman was consistently portrayed as Flash's equal in speed throughout Justice League. An argument could be made that Flash has slightly better reaction time, because he evaded punches but at the end of the movie when they raced and Superman was in a clear and focused mind they both started the race at the exact same time when they heard the crack and then they were both in a tie when the shot slowed back down (Superman might actually have been ahead because of his arms). So Superman and Flash are essentially equal. This means we can use Flash and WW's interaction when Flash gave her the sword back as a benchmark. In this scene, Wonder Woman is clearly outsped by Flash by a large factor and Flash is still moving in superspeed while the entire scene is frozen. This should be more than enough evidence to say that Superman is substantially faster than Wonder Woman and by basic logic Quicksilver as well. But there's more, Wonder Woman also had trouble tagging Steppenwolf. She was never shown to be able to react in any special way to Steppenwolf whereas when Superman interacted with Steppenwolf it was made very clear that they were on different levels of speed to the point where Superman was smiling and thereby indicating that he was not even trying. So we have Superman not even trying and he easily performs a reaction and combat speed feat out of Wonder Woman's league. There is no denying the fact that Superman is faster than Wonder Woman and by extension Quicksilver. Because if anything Quicksilver is actually slower than Wonder Woman rather than being equal in combat speed.

THEREFORE: Clark clears Round 5- MCU Quicksilver.

That feat is travel speed, I am talking about combat speed. Bullets are not Mach 5-6 but Mach 2/3 at best and Diana is known for aim dodging bullets.

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QS was able to steal the pistol from Klaue who was trying to shoot him, then he unloads the same pistol and then he puts all of the bullets on that table, Klaue did not even realize what happened while QS was standing behind him.

QS also legit statued Cap and Iron Man, who are respectively a bullet timer and somebody who reacted to a Mach 6 tank shell.

QS can move blur in slow motion, that's far above of WW's speed. QS also perceived people in slow motion, and blitzed them. WW has never done that.

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In a Canon concept art, we can see that bullets were still moving and Diana was falling.

Clark has no statue force, JL team were already standing there like statues before he uses super speed.

QS's reactions and his speed is far more consistent than Clark's.

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He perceives in slow motion. He was moving at mach 2 or 3, They were already standing there when Clark held WW, Aquaman and Cyborg back, they were just standing there like statues before and they weren't moving.

1- That's not statue for the reason that they were already not moving and standing there like statues even before he uses super speed.

2- You can clearly see them after he throws them, it's slow motion.

3- He only does that when he encountered with a speedster, he never used that speed in combat.

Clark gets hit all the time, he doesn't have a speedster mindset, if he sees one (Flash) then he uses it, and that's more like travel speed (trying to catch someone) not combat.

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#43  Edited By ReiTigerstar

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This is new.

Bullets are not Mach 5-6 but Mach 2/3 at best and Diana is known for aim dodging bullets.

QS also legit statued Cap and Iron Man, who are respectively a bullet timer and somebody who reacted to a Mach 6 tank shell.

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@chaoselement: Nope u still didn't explain me and don't avoid my qustion. How does Surfer travel via board is relevant ? PROVE IT HE TRAVELS AT MTFL. I don't care about what distance

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@chaoselement: Nope u still didn't explain me and don't avoid my qustion. How does Surfer travel via board is relevant ? PROVE IT HE TRAVELS AT MTFL. I don't care about what distance

Reed Richards confirmed it, he said that he traveled betwen galaxies.

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@DammeFavour:

How does he gets past QS?

MCU QS's speed feats >>>> DCEU Supes speed feats.

Carol has also better raw speed due to FTL space travel, I don't remember Kryptoniwns being as fast as her.

Supes is Mach 2/3.

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