Superman (DCEU) & Neo VS Thor & Captain Marvel (MCU)
@DammeFavour: Nah thor alone beats supes if prime
@waking_dreamer: It's obvious that everyone is within the Matrix as Neo's barely active outside it and of course Neo is not at his godlike peak level of his powers while Superman, Thor and Captain Marvel are using their abilities they've shown outside the Matrix and not the potential of everyone within it as described in Matrix lore. Let's say that Neo is training in some artificial reality simulation of Morpheus like in the first film or that the Matrix was created in a crossover universe where both Marvel and DC superheroes existed before Ultron or some doomsday scenario led to the dystopian future of the Matrix where the machines conquered all Earth and replicated the superheroes that existed before its fall so they are puppets of the Matrix. Superman is convinced by Neo but Thor and Captain Marvel are still bluepills because of their arrogance, which makes them so confident of their supposed godhood that they are ignoring the divine influence of the Matrix over their lives of fake glory. Superman and especially Henry Cavill's version is very humble and insecure on a degree that's probably too much, so he's closer to Neo and opposed to Thor's and Captain Marvel's pride more similar to Wonder Woman's.
Either on team 1 solos
Neo>>Anyone here so his team
False, Superman is slightly stronger.
@flashgreatersigneveryone: I think that both Superman and Neo are slightly stronger than Thor and Carol Danvers but they are not as skilled as the Marvel characters, considering their lack of experience since they are only shown practicing how to use their powers for a few years or even less, with Neo being too inexperienced despite saying "I know kung fu" a mere second after being completely clueless about it, because Morpheus and the rest who taught him are clearly below Neo's status as "The One" which is needed against those comic characters, while Carol Danvers was shown to have costantly fought across the universe for over two decades while Thor is centuries old as the greatest warrior of his powerful Asgardian race.
@blackpantherisb: Yeah I think a lot of people overrate Thor and Carol Danvers so explain yourself. I think Supes is stronger than either of them but way weaker than anyone who could solo both of them since they apparently like each other.
@banecapital: Supes bodies them both in a 1v1, and Carol loses more than Thor would.
@nightgate: You may be right but many more people consider Carol Danvers overpowered rather than Thor who's believed to be surpassed by Carol while Hulk was already considered too powerful to be the protagonist of MCU films just like Carol who got hated for her solo film. So explain yourself. And comparing Thor to both Carol and Hulk reminds me of She-Hulk deserving to be Marvel's most powerful female superhero instead of Carol.
Team 2 with Neo being the weakest link. If Neo could stop bullets he would get killed by them. On top of that smith whom was hos equal was still beating him to death. His emp pulse would be useless here.
Thor has the highest damage output with storm breaker which was able to overpower all thr infinity stones. Thor Lightning cloak also give him add protection from assault.
Carol just on powerset and durability is the most powerful being here. Best strength feat holding off a skyscraper size planet killing missle. Best durability feat able to take a punch for the power gem wield by Thanos, shred through his massive ship like swiss cheese with no damage at all and take his bombardment with no damage. If this were CM movie pre awakening Supes would have a chance to hurt her. She is also a confirmed light speef character, best feat moving light speed while carrying speed ships.
Team 2 wins
@banecapital: I’m so confused, what are you asking?
@blacharrt: Her lightspeed flight isn’t used in combat. Also, why can’t she be hurt again?
@nightgate: Why everyone saying that Carol Danvers is OP compared to either Superman or Thor are wrong?
Either on team 1 solos
@banecapital: I honestly put Carol below IW Thor.
@nightgate: About what?
@flashgreatersigneveryone: "False, Superman is slightly stronger."
Superman is the only strogner in lifting strength, Neo is stronger in striking strength and is faster
Neo And Smith with their punch created city-sized shockwaves that expands much faster than lighting which means that their punch was waster as well
Neo is more durable in blunt force durability than Superman.
Those shockwaves did no damage to the surrounding buildings, even when the fought near the buildings the shockwaves didn't even knock out a window. Those strikes were weak af, all they did was push the rain away...
@eredin12: @blackpantherisb: @thevvitchking: @flashgreatersigneveryone: Well Superman in Man of Steel crushed countless buildings across half of Metropolis like some pieces of paper and he obviously wasn't doing that on purpose and considering how untrained and unfocused he was he should be much above his debut movie feats considering that Neo's feats from the third film are mentioned.
Neo solostomps everyone. He survived a punch from Smith that caused shockwave beyond megapolis level.
@eredin12: you're trying to high ball and it is really obvious if you watched The Matrix. The only "Strike" Bodyslam that caused a shockwave that damaged anything above a window was this one. They do not punch with the power of nukes because a nuke dropped from this height would vaporize the city. In fact, Nukes a usually detonated above the ground for maximum damage....
Visually, the shockwaves look cool, but they do nothing but push rain.
@eredin12: Superman was holding back when fighting Batman and Aquaman in Justice League.
@eredin12: the nuke in BvS was detonated in low earth orbit dude..... Smith and Neo's shockwave was slightly above a city (which is where nukes are usually detonated to vaporize the city).
You are obviously high balling. That Thor Sokavia feat was not solely done by Thor it was Ironman and Thor overloading the spire that destroyed the city. That is the Third time you left out context for feats you are making claims for. You're either trolling or you purposely being ingenuous. I am no longer going to be responding to you if you are going to leave out context and high ball feats so shamelessly.
@eredin12: Superman was striking his much weaker Kryptonian counterparts with obviously much more force than the one required to demolish entire buildings as merely collateral damage that was nevertheless much heavier than the shockwave caused by Neo and Smith in their final fight. Neo's physical strength is much lower than Superman's but I'm not lowballing him since he knows Kung Fu to make him Superman's equal.
Superman wins easily.
1.) Neo has no powers, he can do crazy things in the matrix but that's irrelevant since the matrix is a digital reality, it's not real. And there he's simply a Superman clone anyway and what you can do is limited only by your self awareness and will power.
Outside of the matrix he's literally just a human.
2.) Thor gets laid out near instantly. He's been beaten in five punches or less by weaker than Superman, Thanos, hell, Ultron, kurse, and hulk all have beaten him down in short order. Clark would do it faster.
3.) Carol is the best match up here but she gets brutalized. Clark's faster stronger and far more durable. He steam rolls her.
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