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#1 Posted by termiteone4ever (12451 posts) - - Show Bio

Rules

BFR is not allowed but characters are allowed to air juggle and enter space.

Morals off characters are allowed to fight with no limits. Win by death, KO or incineration.

Fight starts 2 miles apart.

Superman all feats allowed (No silver ages) Post / new 52 / rebirth /

Only feats after his power up according to the Marvel handbook.

Female Thor all her feats allowed

For world breaker Red she hulk all her feats allowed

Location

On a self-generating planet made of Adamantium.

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#2 Posted by green_skaar (11468 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulks

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#3 Posted by APEX_pretador (18636 posts) - - Show Bio

Unless Aaron is writing this, hulks win

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#4 Posted by Charan_ (1385 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulks win, Jane is out of her league. Or Jane Thor taps into Aaron-Force and solos the Hulks and Superman.

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#5 Edited by tensor (8257 posts) - - Show Bio

Team one. Jane sit back an let the hammer just pound away at Hulk while asking Superman how is the family.

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#6 Posted by ITouchedTheBoat (3192 posts) - - Show Bio

@charan_ said:

Hulks win, Jane is out of her league. Or Jane Thor taps into Aaron-Force and solos the Hulks and Superman.

This lol

I'm pretty sure WBH can solo not sure

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#7 Posted by Sophisticated_Ignorance (2150 posts) - - Show Bio

Feats for WB Red Hulk, because I'm fairly certain shes the weak link here.

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#8 Posted by EmpressOfDread (10603 posts) - - Show Bio

@sophisticated_ignorance: took hits from WBH while amped. If am not wrong due to his wishes she should be just as strong as WBH. Team cant defeat two WBH level characters.

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#9 Edited by Grekko (130 posts) - - Show Bio

@empressofdread said:

@sophisticated_ignorance: took hits from WBH while amped. If am not wrong due to his wishes she should be just as strong as WBH. Team cant defeat two WBH level characters.

Basically this, she is about as powerful as WBH, so shes another casual planet buster, with one noted difference, while Hulks gamma burst is more tied to outright destruction, her gamma bursts are tied to fire and burning/vaporizing stuff(similar to her father).

Anyway unless some massive PIS is involved from Janes side the 2 Hulks flat out stomp.

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#10 Posted by MasterSkywalker (3609 posts) - - Show Bio

Intended mismatch designed to bait people I take it? Either WBH or RSH is a casual planer buster and would oneshot Jane or Superman with their attacks.

@jashro44 @juiceboks @jedixman

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#11 Posted by deactivated-5b2121a0a9a00 (10000 posts) - - Show Bio
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#12 Posted by Con7879 (607 posts) - - Show Bio

the 2 Hulks

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#13 Posted by EmpressOfDread (10603 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, this does look like a spite thread. Jane is in no class to hang around the likes of PC Superman and WBH. And WBH vs Superman is already being debated to death, there is not point int putting two WBHlevelish characters against one Superman with NO BFR rule.

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#14 Posted by MightyKalEl (2138 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulks.

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#15 Posted by Battle123axe (8512 posts) - - Show Bio

@tensor said:

Team one. Jane sit back an let the hammer just pound away at Hulk while asking Superman how is the family.

Anyway, either hulk solos
Anyway, either hulk solos

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#16 Posted by TheLurker (989 posts) - - Show Bio

Jane Stomps!

Well Hulk anyway. Hulk is already a symbol of a high testosterone power trip. He is to macho and manly, and that masculinity shall be his kryptonite against the Aaron-Force. His WB form will only amp his levels of manly patriarchy to levels possibly surpassing Aron-Force Odin (and we ALL know how that went).

WB Red Hulk is where it gets tricky. Her womanhood might prevent the Aaron-Force from beefing up Jane. However, if we go purely by feats, Jane could use the Aaron-Force to either manipulate Red S'hulk into taking a knee out of sheer reverence, or turn on WB Hulk himself. That would make this a three on one slaughter.

Superman might be affected by radiating Aaron-Force, which has a risk of turning him into a raging misogynist, but due to Clark's general humility, he'd probably get the opposite effect and see Jane for the GODESS she is. Thus amping his dedication and resolve.

SO, TL;DR AF Jane-Thor likely solos.

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#17 Posted by termiteone4ever (12451 posts) - - Show Bio

Intended mismatch designed to bait people I take it? Either WBH or RSH is a casual planer buster and would oneshot Jane or Superman with their attacks.

Not a miss match.

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#18 Edited by deactivated-5b2121a0a9a00 (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

@termiteone4ever: Its a mismatch by every means. Jane is fodder and Superman can't beat two World Breakers.

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#19 Posted by Unlimited1 (660 posts) - - Show Bio

@empressofdread: @all-father: Care to explain? I saw some feats of Jane using galaxy level lightning, holding back Odin and even the Phoenix. Why do you consider her too weak to contribute?

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#20 Posted by deactivated-5b2121a0a9a00 (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

@unlimited1:

1. Where did you see her using "galaxy level" lighting?

2. Her showing against Odin is a massive outlier

3. Where did you see her fighting the phenoix force ?

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#21 Posted by Unlimited1 (660 posts) - - Show Bio

@all-father:

1. It is stated that it stretches from one galaxy to another and shakes worlds half a universe away.

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2. Here, but I found it online so maybe it is missing context.

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#22 Posted by deactivated-5b2121a0a9a00 (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

@unlimited1: Both of those attacks required her to stand still and pray to the hammer. If she attempts to do it either one of the hulks will one shot her.

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#23 Posted by Unlimited1 (660 posts) - - Show Bio

@all-father: But she can fly into space and do it from there:

BFR is not allowed but characters are allowed to air juggle and enter space.

In addition do the hulks have any range attacks? What is their best speed feat?

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#24 Posted by deactivated-5b2121a0a9a00 (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

@unlimited1:

But she can fly into space and do it from there

Lmao. Either hulks can leap into space with 1 jump

In addition do the hulks have any range attacks

Either Hulks Gamma blasts or Thunderclaps could one shot her.

Like I said, she's fodder.

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#25 Posted by Unlimited1 (660 posts) - - Show Bio

@all-father:

Lmao. Either hulks can leap into space with 1 jump

That's not a good way to fight someone who can fly at FTL speeds.

Either Hulks Gamma blasts or Thunderclaps could one shot her.

She some hits from other powerful opponents (Odin, the destroyer), are you sure she canT withstand even a thunder clap?

What about speed feats for both hulks? They might not be fast enough to tag her.

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#26 Posted by deactivated-5b2121a0a9a00 (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

@unlimited1:

She some hits from other powerful opponents (Odin, the destroyer),

I already told you her showing against Odin is a massive outlier. In any real scenario Odin would Pimp slap her. She was going to die at the hands of the destroyer if Odinson had not arrived. Second of all, why are you comparing the destroyers hits with world breakers? Both are planet busters. Which means she'll get one shorted.

They might not be fast enough to tag her.

A standard Hulk was able to tag Quicksilver with his Thundercalps.

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#27 Posted by Hermur (39 posts) - - Show Bio

Its Pakforce vs Aaronforce. The weak link must then be superman :-)

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#28 Posted by Revan- (7959 posts) - - Show Bio

Either solo.

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#29 Posted by Kevd4wg (9546 posts) - - Show Bio

Either Jane solos or Hulk solos

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#30 Edited by Chad_Duby (4266 posts) - - Show Bio

@all-father: Jane fighting Odin isn't an outlier, considering she has a lot of impressive feats and Odin hasn't done much things lately. Infact, superman could hold two hulks for a while and then Jane obliterates them.

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#31 Posted by deactivated-5b2121a0a9a00 (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

@all-father: Jane fighting Odin isn't an outlier, considering she has a lot of impressive feats and Odin hasn't done much things lately. Infact, superman could hold to hulks for a while and then Jane obliterate them.

Lol....ok.

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#32 Posted by Unlimited1 (660 posts) - - Show Bio

@all-father:

A standard Hulk was able to tag Quicksilver with his Thundercalps

When did that happen? Can you post the feat?

Even if he can keep up with her, the starting distance is 2 miles so she should have enough time to fly into space.

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#33 Edited by ThEBeStOfTheBeST (8236 posts) - - Show Bio

@chad_duby said:

@all-father: Jane fighting Odin isn't an outlier, considering she has a lot of impressive feats and Odin hasn't done much things lately. Infact, superman could hold to hulks for a while and then Jane obliterate them.

Her feats aren't as impressive as Odin's, not even close. Defeating him is an outlier/PIS-feat, she struggled against Gladiator who nearly strangled her to death (IIRC) and who's also a mid-tier herald at best or basically nowhere near Skyfather level.

OT: Team 2 for the win 6-7/10

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#34 Posted by _KingofLatveria (17222 posts) - - Show Bio
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#35 Posted by _KingofLatveria (17222 posts) - - Show Bio

@hermur said:

Its Pakforce vs Aaronforce. The weak link must then be superman :-)

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#36 Edited by Chad_Duby (4266 posts) - - Show Bio

@thebestofthebest: Are you sure? Gladiator's power-level depends on his confidence, he might be THAT powerful. And Infact, it is arguable that Jane didn't go all out against kallark. Kallark knocked out two shia'r gods who can summon Phoenix and are extremely powerful. And current skyfathers might not be as poweful as they used to be.

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#37 Posted by deactivated-5b2121a0a9a00 (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

@unlimited1:

When did that happen? Can you post the feat?

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Even if he can keep up with her, the starting distance is 2 miles so she should have enough time to fly into space.

Literally any hulk can jump over 2 miles in one leap.

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#38 Posted by Erkan12 (7751 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulks

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#39 Posted by Sy8000 (34285 posts) - - Show Bio

Both hulks probably solo to be honest.

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#40 Edited by Unlimited1 (660 posts) - - Show Bio

@all-father:

Literally any hulk can jump over 2 miles in one leap.

She will likely already be in space when he begins his leap.

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#41 Posted by deactivated-5b728068f211c (7069 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulks stomp. Mismatch.

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#43 Posted by LDM (5324 posts) - - Show Bio

WBHs stomp

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#44 Posted by termiteone4ever (12451 posts) - - Show Bio

@termiteone4ever: Its a mismatch by every means. Jane is fodder and Superman can't beat two World Breakers.

Yeah,this is spite/bait. @jashro44: @juiceboks:

Hulks stomp. Mismatch.

@sophisticated_ignorance: took hits from WBH while amped. If am not wrong due to his wishes she should be just as strong as WBH. Team cant defeat two WBH level characters.

@tensor said:

Team one. Jane sit back an let the hammer just pound away at Hulk while asking Superman how is the family.

This match is not a mismatch. Your opinion doesn't really stop or hide that Jane has the feats. She is more than just a challenge. With Superman at her side, this is a challenge for sure. Why cry or complain to mods they have already read and seen the first complaints days ago.

There is no point complaining about outlier/PIS-feat either. Her feats did happen. Just as much as it took two hulks to perform a feat :) even some users claiming amped was involved wishes. Some users think Jane is worthy here as well.

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#45 Posted by deactivated-5b2121a0a9a00 (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

@termiteone4ever:

This match is not a mismatch

It is. Feats and Logic say so.

Your opinion doesn't really stop or hide that Jane has the feats

It is not an opinion, it is a fact. Lets take a look at these feats that enable her to go against the most powerful incarnation of the hulk shall we :

  • Her best feat is a massive outlier
  • Her best non outlier feat is fighting Annihilus
  • She has never beaten any high tier in the MU
  • She lost to Gladiator, arguably Marvels weakest High Tier.
  • She struggled against She Hulk, who is nothing more than a Mid Tier.
  • Her strongest attack requires her to pray for her hammer.

She is more than just a challenge.

She isn't a challenge to anyone, especially not a World Breaker

There is no point complaining about outlier/PIS-feat either. Her feats did happen.

So you're one of them guys who says : THEY HAPPENED DEAL WITH IT. Well using that logic Hulk is universal because his thunderclaps shook universes. Wolverine is a certified High tier because he made Sentry struggle. Batman is nigh omnipotent because he drew blood from the Spectre. Namor is superior to Thanos because he drew blood from him with one punch.

Just as much as it took two hulks to perform a feat :)

The two hulks actually have acceptable feats that aren't PIS or Outliers. The two hulks didn't have Jason Aaron writing for them.

Some users think Jane is worthy here as well.

Users who clearly have no idea who or what a World Breaker is.

Then again you are the same person who claimed Wonder Woman is a better fighter than Taskmaster, so it's no surprise this is coming from you.

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#46 Posted by Supermanforever (6658 posts) - - Show Bio

lol at people saying its a missmatch. How the hell will hulks put down Superman lets say? maybe they will win eventually but the hell is with those bs claims about either soloing etc. With new 52/post crisis superman is more than capable of holding this fight very long time on his own alone. The speed itself is complete missmatch, they will never tag superman. Their best attack is probably busting a planet and i dont even see why that would kill superman.

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#47 Posted by Unlimited1 (660 posts) - - Show Bio

@all-father: Is praying to the hammer really a weakness? Hulk doesn't even have a speed feat surpassing massively hypersonic, Jane can easily fly to space before the hulks can close the large distance, considering the travel speed Mjolnir grants and than nuke them from space.

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#48 Posted by deactivated-5b2121a0a9a00 (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

@unlimited1:

Is praying to the hammer really a weakness?

By the time she finishes praying she'll be in two half's.

than nuke them from space.

You must know little to nothing about hulks if you think a nuke could harm them.

What durability feats does Jane have that remotely suggest she can tank planet busting attacks and thunder claps? What durablity feats does Jane have to claim that she can take continuous gamma blasts without dying? Nothing.

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#49 Edited by deactivated-5b728068f211c (7069 posts) - - Show Bio

@termiteone4ever: Then if you consider Jane's feats, this is a mismatch either way because she performed feats wayy above anyone here.

Hulks still stomp.

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#50 Posted by Unlimited1 (660 posts) - - Show Bio

@all-father:

By the time she finishes praying she'll be in two half's.

I already claimed that she will attack from space and that the hulks are not fast enough to hit her before she can go there, you seem to ignore some of my points.

You must know little to nothing about hulks if you think a nuke could harm them.

She will hit them with galaxy busting power, nuking was just an expression.