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#1 Edited by willpayton (22083 posts) - - Show Bio

Team DC: Flash (Wally West) and Superman

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Team Marvel: Silver Surfer and Thor

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Team DC can use both pre and post-52 feats.

No prep, all in-character.

Battle on Earth starting 100m apart.

Who wins?

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#2 Posted by NighThunder (7725 posts) - - Show Bio
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#3 Edited by NighThunder (7725 posts) - - Show Bio

If its barry, then marvel

if its wally, then still marvel

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#4 Posted by johnfrank120 (6702 posts) - - Show Bio
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#5 Posted by willpayton (22083 posts) - - Show Bio
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#6 Posted by icecold14 (6767 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver surfer can solo

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#7 Posted by Aee (797 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel

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#8 Posted by nickthedevil (14909 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally solos.

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#9 Posted by deactivated-5b2e798651249 (7245 posts) - - Show Bio

Team DC can potentially win via Wally's speed steal.

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#10 Posted by The_Titan_Lord (9366 posts) - - Show Bio
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#11 Posted by WeAreMany (544 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor doesnt belong here.

Additionally, Wally solos.

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#12 Posted by Jacthripper (14983 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel

SS ftw

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#13 Edited by NoSoAmazing (139 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally solos,

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#14 Posted by Hidan911 (144 posts) - - Show Bio

Team marvel

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#15 Edited by dorukesin (7421 posts) - - Show Bio

Scenerio : Norrin mind rapes Clark and turns him against Wally.Then Wally stomps them all

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#16 Edited by dorukesin (7421 posts) - - Show Bio
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#17 Posted by johnfrank120 (6702 posts) - - Show Bio

DC

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#18 Posted by myerlanski (2487 posts) - - Show Bio

Team marvel...

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#19 Posted by Appzashok (1437 posts) - - Show Bio

Da fuq Thor comes here???

Okay...team DC wins. Speed steals surfer.

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#20 Posted by NighThunder (7725 posts) - - Show Bio

imao Wallys not sololing anything here

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#21 Posted by Sy8000 (35464 posts) - - Show Bio

@nighthunder: yes he is. He beats surfer to death and speed steals the thor.

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#22 Posted by WeAreMany (544 posts) - - Show Bio
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#23 Posted by ElmoHump (1530 posts) - - Show Bio
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#24 Posted by GhostRider2 (4935 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel

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#25 Posted by NighThunder (7725 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser

Or he ends up getting trapped in surfers board when he tries that.

And since when does wally go or a speed blitz right off the bat?

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#26 Posted by Sy8000 (35464 posts) - - Show Bio

@nighthunder: surfer can't tag him with his board or react to him so moot point.

Since forever. Seriously, flash blitzes at the start all the time.

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#27 Posted by brainstorm01 (1702 posts) - - Show Bio

wally loses. Lol. (;

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#28 Posted by NighThunder (7725 posts) - - Show Bio

@nighthunder: surfer can't tag him with his board or react to him so moot point.

Since forever. Seriously, flash blitzes at the start all the time.

Surfer fights t lightsped and can react at that speed, wally rarely goes that speed at the start of the fight. Wally's going to land a few hundred hits ( thats going to do nothing) and then he's going to get traped in surfers board, with surfer not even having to tag him with it to trap him in it.

And this is all considering the fight starts with surfer on ground level. Surfer almost always fights from the sky, while wally has few feats of fighting in the sky.

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#29 Posted by hirev_starman (2195 posts) - - Show Bio

Team Marvel

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#30 Posted by reaverlation (25881 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally solos

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#31 Posted by willpayton (22083 posts) - - Show Bio
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#32 Posted by Sy8000 (35464 posts) - - Show Bio

@nighthunder: Wally's moved at speeds where beams of light were frozen to him, tied up someone before the light hit their retina, and blitzed grood at FTL speeds, all in character and morals on. Flashes punches will knock norrin senseless. He's one shotted grood at only multi Mach speeds, weaker flashes have floored and drawn blood from black Adam and superboy prime, Wally's one shotted people who can tank hits from superman. That offense dwarfs surfers durability.

Then he needs to tag him with his power. Whatever. He can't taf what he can't see. Wally can just speed steal surfer to keep him from flying.

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#33 Posted by Artyom (6880 posts) - - Show Bio

@nighthunder: Wally's moved at speeds where beams of light were frozen to him, tied up someone before the light hit their retina, and blitzed grood at FTL speeds, all in character and morals on. Flashes punches will knock norrin senseless. He's one shotted grood at only multi Mach speeds, weaker flashes have floored and drawn blood from black Adam and superboy prime, Wally's one shotted people who can tank hits from superman. That offense dwarfs surfers durability.

Then he needs to tag him with his power. Whatever. He can't taf what he can't see. Wally can just speed steal surfer to keep him from flying.

Yeah, pretty much this.

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#34 Edited by Sophisticated_Ignorance (2243 posts) - - Show Bio

Even if Flash and Supes double team speed blitz Thor SS could solo. So Marvel.

Good luck Flash hitting either SS or Thor if they stay in the air.

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#35 Edited by NighThunder (7725 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser said:

@nighthunder: Wally's moved at speeds where beams of light were frozen to him, tied up someone before the light hit their retina, and blitzed grood at FTL speeds, all in character and morals on. Flashes punches will knock norrin senseless. He's one shotted grood at only multi Mach speeds, weaker flashes have floored and drawn blood from black Adam and superboy prime, Wally's one shotted people who can tank hits from superman. That offense dwarfs surfers durability.

Then he needs to tag him with his power. Whatever. He can't taf what he can't see. Wally can just speed steal surfer to keep him from flying.

None of those people have surfers durability, grood isn't on surfers level, and neither is superman. So that doesn't mean anything

And no, he doesn't, wally literately just needs to get close to surfers board..or steal it like you just said. And bam, he's in surfers board. trapped and at surfers mercy.Surfer can also just also atomize him instantly if he starts blitzing him, or transmute him. So either wally doesn't hit surfer at all and surfers goes high in the air and attacks, or he gets traped in surfers board.

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#36 Posted by VenomousTaco (1563 posts) - - Show Bio

Team DC. Surfer is overrated (lol, as if Flash wasn't).

Regardless. Team DC wins.

:-)

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#37 Posted by Namor_Curry (1729 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer and Thor take this. Stopping time/reality warping puts Flash in the darkest edges of a black void via Mjolnir, and Surfer tears Clark to shreds via molecule manipulation, or however he felt like ending it really.

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#38 Edited by captain_batman_FTW (8905 posts) - - Show Bio

While everyone fights except for thor, they make thor look like a statue, wally one-shots surfer, superman blitzes thor.

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#39 Posted by captain_batman_FTW (8905 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser said:

@nighthunder: Wally's moved at speeds where beams of light were frozen to him, tied up someone before the light hit their retina, and blitzed grood at FTL speeds, all in character and morals on. Flashes punches will knock norrin senseless. He's one shotted grood at only multi Mach speeds, weaker flashes have floored and drawn blood from black Adam and superboy prime, Wally's one shotted people who can tank hits from superman. That offense dwarfs surfers durability.

Then he needs to tag him with his power. Whatever. He can't taf what he can't see. Wally can just speed steal surfer to keep him from flying.

None of those people have surfers durability, grood isn't on surfers level, and neither is superman. So that doesn't mean anything

And no, he doesn't, wally literately just needs to get close to surfers board..or steal it like you just said. And bam, he's in surfers board. trapped and at surfers mercy.Surfer can also just also atomize him instantly if he starts blitzing him, or transmute him. So either wally doesn't hit surfer at all and surfers goes high in the air and attacks, or he gets traped in surfers board.

Silver surfer can't react to Wally.

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#40 Posted by FlashGreaterSignEveryone (1830 posts) - - Show Bio

team Dc, thor is a statue in this battle. replace him with someone else, wally and superman vs Silver surfer is not a fair battle

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#41 Edited by NighThunder (7725 posts) - - Show Bio

@captain_batman_ftw: He doesn't have to, his cosmic abilities are more than a match for wally.

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#42 Posted by gav (1094 posts) - - Show Bio

Everyone in character? Could go either way since all four hold back regularly. What would happen is they'd all be fighting for awhile, then it would keep escalating until one side starts going all out, and whoever does that first wins.

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#43 Posted by Sophisticated_Ignorance (2243 posts) - - Show Bio

team Dc, thor is a statue in this battle. replace him with someone else, wally and superman vs Silver surfer is not a fair battle

Current Surfer is arguably near Thanos level, since in a WEAKENED state he powered up a device that required someone to be around Thanos level of power, he can very well solo this,and like I said, Thor is strong,fast and durable enough to trade punches with Supes,hes fought people like Sentry no problem, and hows Flash going to get to Thor if he stays in the air? People are lowballing Thor too much ITT.

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#44 Edited by FlashGreaterSignEveryone (1830 posts) - - Show Bio

@flashgreatersigneveryone said:

team Dc, thor is a statue in this battle. replace him with someone else, wally and superman vs Silver surfer is not a fair battle

Current Surfer is arguably near Thanos level, since in a WEAKENED state he powered up a device that required someone to be around Thanos level of power, he can very well solo this,and like I said, Thor is strong,fast and durable enough to trade punches with Supes,hes fought people like Sentry no problem, and hows Flash going to get to Thor if he stays in the air? People are lowballing Thor too much ITT.

sentry doesn't use his speed as an advantage in fights, he trades blows i don't think i have seen him blitz before.

thor is not going to touch superman, show me scans of thor being "fast" enough to trade with supes especially pre 52 supes

scans of surfer being arguably thanos level

wally can fly..

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#46 Edited by Sophisticated_Ignorance (2243 posts) - - Show Bio

@flashgreatersigneveryone said:

@sophisticated_ignorance said:

@flashgreatersigneveryone said:

team Dc, thor is a statue in this battle. replace him with someone else, wally and superman vs Silver surfer is not a fair battle

Current Surfer is arguably near Thanos level, since in a WEAKENED state he powered up a device that required someone to be around Thanos level of power, he can very well solo this,and like I said, Thor is strong,fast and durable enough to trade punches with Supes,hes fought people like Sentry no problem, and hows Flash going to get to Thor if he stays in the air? People are lowballing Thor too much ITT.

sentry doesn't use his speed as an advantage in fights, he trades blows i don't think i have seen him blitz before.

thor is not going to touch superman, show me scans of thor being "fast" enough to trade with supes especially pre 52 supes

scans of surfer being arguably thanos level

wally can fly..

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Sentry doesn't use his speed in fights? Bull.

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And I can't find the SS scan but hopefully someone else who knows what I'm talking about can find it, it happened during the Annihilation arc.

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#47 Posted by captain_batman_FTW (8905 posts) - - Show Bio
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#48 Posted by NighThunder (7725 posts) - - Show Bio
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#49 Posted by captain_batman_FTW (8905 posts) - - Show Bio

@nighthunder: For him to be able to use his cosmic powers, he has to react to him, right?

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#50 Edited by NighThunder (7725 posts) - - Show Bio

@captain_batman_ftw

No he doesn't. Silver was getting attack and he just atomized him up close.

Same can happen to wally.

that, or wally just gets trapped into his board