Superior Octopus vs Superior Spider-man

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Rules

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  • Win by any means
  • In character
  • No prep

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Who wins and why?

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#2 higherpower  Moderator

Good match. I'd back Spiderman, but I can't wait to see the arguments for either side

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#3  Edited By RabumAlal

Shouldn't Superior Ock have the same powers as Spider-Man but better arms and tech?

EDIT: Superior Ock should also have looser morals.

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#4  Edited By TheWatcherKing  Online

Superior Spider-Man

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Any prrof of Superior Ock's fighting ability?

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Who is Superior Octopus?!

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Who is Superior Octopus?!

If you've seen enough NSFW work, you'll know where its going.

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Who is Superior Octopus?!

Its Otto Ocatavious.

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@jashro44 said:
@nickzambuto said:

Who is Superior Octopus?!

Its Otto Ocatavious.

But he's still alive and evil again?

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But he's still alive and evil again?

Yea. He came back during clone conspiracy and he teamed up with Hydra during secret empire and tried to take over Peter's company (all though he got offended when someone said that Steve called him one of his finest "soldiers"). But than Peter destroyed his own company. Surprisingly it was actually a pretty good issue. First one in a while which I really enjoyed.

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@jashro44: Why did he go back on his redemption and become an ass again?

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@jashro44: Why did he go back on his redemption and become an ass again?

Honestly I kind of just skimmed clone conspiracy so I can't remember if Otto had motivation beyond just wanting Parker industries back.

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#15  Edited By renamed040924

@jashro44 said:
@nickzambuto said:

@jashro44: Why did he go back on his redemption and become an ass again?

Honestly I kind of just skimmed clone conspiracy so I can't remember if Otto had motivation beyond just wanting Parker industries back.

Oh... such is the nature of the comic book industry I suppose. All character development must eventually get reset back to the status quo. But what a serious shame.

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@jashro44 said:
@nickzambuto said:

@jashro44: Why did he go back on his redemption and become an ass again?

Honestly I kind of just skimmed clone conspiracy so I can't remember if Otto had motivation beyond just wanting Parker industries back.

Oh... such is the nature of the comic book industry I suppose. All character development must eventually get reset back to the status quo. But what a serious shame.

I knew the rich Spider Man thing would NEVER last lol.

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I knew the rich Spider Man thing would NEVER last lol.

So did everyone else.

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@jashro44: can you explain his "octopus sense"?

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#19  Edited By jashro44
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#21  Edited By renamed040924
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@jashro44: let me find the scan he says his Octopus sense is tingling and it actually shows haze around his head.

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@supermanwithatan01: I'll have to read through slotts Spider-Man and figure it out. Looks like spider-sense. Ock did mention he has all of peters powers currently.

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@jashro44: Ock is in a clone body of Peter's but he did say there were modifications to alter it in order to include his own genetic code, as well. He doesn't have "octopus sense" it's just spider sense but he's an egomaniac and prefers to call it that way instead for what it is.

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@jashro44: Ock is in a clone body of Peter's but he did say there were modifications to alter it in order to include his own genetic code, as well. He doesn't have "octopus sense" it's just spider sense but he's an egomaniac and prefers to call it that way instead for what it is.

I see. Thanks for the info.

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Superior Octopus.

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@nickzambuto: This Ock is from Spider-Verse where he hid a copy of his mind in his tech, he didn't go through the end of Superior and the character development.

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#30  Edited By renamed040924

@rabumalal said:

@nickzambuto: This Ock is from Spider-Verse where he hid a copy of his mind in his tech, he didn't go through the end of Superior and the character development.

That makes it a little better but still kinda sucks. An alternate universe Otto just appearing to take over the mantle of the old Otto taints his memory a little.

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@nickzambuto: it's the same selfish Otto Octavius that gave peter control of his life back, the only difference being this one only has the memories that would have been saved at the time ock uploaded his memory to the robot during the spider verse arc, when ock realized peter would eventually get his body back

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@jashro44: @morpheus_:

Is Otto still in a cloned peters body with the spider sense and enhanced physicals or no?

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@jashro44: @morpheus_:

Is Otto still in a cloned peters body with the spider sense and enhanced physicals or no?

I think he died during amazing spider-man 700 but he is getting an ongoing where he still seems to have the cloned body.

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If Superior Octopus really has equal physicals to Spider-Man due to being a clone body, then Octopus should stomp. He's just as strong, fast and durable as Superior Spider-Man, but his tentacles are a lot better and more versatile than Superior Spider-Man's legs. Heck, Octopus can completely disable Superior Spider-Man's tech with his EMP weapon.

If we don't assume that Superior Octopus' physicals are equal to Spidey's, then Superior Spidey wins just because Superior Octopus is essentially featless in terms of physicals.

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I'll go with the original. Original is always better. I'm sure this will be confirmed soon enough.

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I'll go with the original. Original is always better. I'm sure this will be confirmed soon enough.

Who's the original O_0

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Superior Ock have any feats that put him above his former level or Spiderman (peter)?

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Superior Ock have any feats that put him above his former level or Spiderman (peter)?

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@jashro44: Well he's using Peter's body. Ock's new body is just a clone. Clones tend to be cheap knockoffs.

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Superior Octopus wins

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Octopus wins if we assume he has Spiderman's stats.

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If Superior Octopus really has equal physicals to Spider-Man due to being a clone body, then Octopus should stomp. He's just as strong, fast and durable as Superior Spider-Man, but his tentacles are a lot better and more versatile than Superior Spider-Man's legs. Heck, Octopus can completely disable Superior Spider-Man's tech with his EMP weapon.

If we don't assume that Superior Octopus' physicals are equal to Spidey's, then Superior Spidey wins just because Superior Octopus is essentially featless in terms of physicals.

this, basically if Octavius is Superior Spiderman with 4 tentacles and some new gear he should win handily.

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Did Otto as SpOck ever get used to Parker’s body and adapt to the spider sense?