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Posted by depinhom (13506 posts) 5 months, 22 days ago

Poll: Superhero Fight Club #17: Iron Fist vs Deathstroke (36 votes)

Danny 64%
Slade 36%

The First Champion to Win 3 Consecutive Fights

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The Contender

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Rules:

  • Fight is until death, incapacitation, or submission
  • No bfr
  • This is a PURELY HAND-TO-HAND FIGHT ONLY; NO IRON FIST FOR DANNY
  • Both fighters are shirtless and wearing standard tactical pants and combat boots
  • Danny and Slade have absolutely no knowledge whatsoever on each other
  • Fight takes place here:
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Who wins?

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#3 Posted by jay_z94 (8200 posts) - - Show Bio

With Chi: Danny.

Without Chi: Slade.

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#4 Posted by depinhom (13506 posts) - - Show Bio

@jay_z94: He has Chi technically just not the iron fist properties

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#5 Posted by deactivated-5bd0d99b6c6f7 (1676 posts) - - Show Bio

@undefined: This tough... Is this New 52, and Earth 616?

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#6 Edited by deactivated-5c830d4e319e6 (4952 posts) - - Show Bio

Even without the fist, I go with Danny. More skilled, more durable & faster.

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#7 Posted by Jooosh1996 (2689 posts) - - Show Bio

Danny is as fast and outskills Slade by a margin, however Slades regeneration, durability and strength may be an issue. I'll wait and read some others thoughts before I vote.

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#8 Posted by deactivated-5c8fd6cb3e4f4 (18365 posts) - - Show Bio

Without chi strictly h2h I'll back Slade

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#9 Posted by depinhom (13506 posts) - - Show Bio
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#10 Edited by Rac95 (4322 posts) - - Show Bio

Hard to say. I'd back Danny here though

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#11 Edited by deactivated-5bd0d99b6c6f7 (1676 posts) - - Show Bio

@_kingoflatveria said:

Without chi, strictly H2HI'll back Slade

Yes... After a long debate with myself lol... My conclusion is that Slade's Healing factor, durability, and strength would prove to be a little more then Danny would anticipate, In this case I'll back Slade.

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#12 Posted by Morpheus_ (34323 posts) - - Show Bio

Slade isn't losing to Danny without the iron fist, honestly.

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#13 Posted by comic_book_fan (11198 posts) - - Show Bio

slade

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#14 Posted by Warlockmage (9039 posts) - - Show Bio

Slade isn't losing to Danny without the iron fist, honestly.

honestly Black Panther shouldn't have lost either...

but yeah this

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#15 Posted by MudHole (97 posts) - - Show Bio

Danny has a decent chance but I gotta go with Slade here, he's got too much for Danny.

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#16 Posted by jay_z94 (8200 posts) - - Show Bio

@depinhom said:

@jay_z94: He has Chi technically just not the iron fist properties

In that case, Danny wins.

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#17 Posted by cdiddyman911 (5531 posts) - - Show Bio

If Slade doesn't have his armor and Danny doesn't have the iron fist, Slade has the strictly physical advantage in almost every way. That being said, I'm still taking Danny as I think his skill can outmatch Slade. Slade is no doubt skilled, but I don't think he can beat Danny in a hand to hand fight.

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#18 Posted by jay_z94 (8200 posts) - - Show Bio

@morpheus_ said:

Slade isn't losing to Danny without the iron fist, honestly.

honestly Black Panther shouldn't have lost either...

but yeah this

Danny can't use the Iron Fist but he still has his Chi here, which wasn't the case against T'Challa. With that in mind, Danny holds pretty much every advantage except for pure strength, I don't see how he loses.

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#19 Posted by depinhom (13506 posts) - - Show Bio

Looks like Danny's streak might come to an end.

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#20 Posted by ThunderPrince (6923 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll go with Danny since he has his chi here.

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#21 Posted by IndomitableRegal (15641 posts) - - Show Bio

Without the Iron Fist, I'll go with Slade.

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#22 Edited by King-Ragnar (3729 posts) - - Show Bio

Danny with and without Chi.

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#23 Edited by FromBeyond (1042 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm still backing Iron Fist with his chi. If he didn't have chi id give it to Slade, but under these specifications I believe Danny takes it.

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#24 Posted by Nathaniel_Adam (3703 posts) - - Show Bio

Wilson maybe wins maybe not.

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#25 Posted by depinhom (13506 posts) - - Show Bio

Dang, all tied up.

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#26 Posted by LJayG (1003 posts) - - Show Bio

I want to say Danny. I think taking hits from warhawk is pretty solid, also being able to hurt him too without chi is impressive as well.

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#27 Posted by beatboks1 (9906 posts) - - Show Bio

Slade

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#28 Posted by Renny (3182 posts) - - Show Bio

Two of my top four favorite. I'll go Rand.

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#29 Edited by Wyldsong (9718 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a fairly close fight. Without the Fist technique, Danny is still capable of snapping steel i-beams with a punch, slicing light pole posts in half with a knife hand technique, using a knife hand to basically chop off the foot of a massive kinetic energy absorbing demon, and can still draw blood from and rock Luke Cage and Black Tarrantula with a kick. He also has combat chi healing, the ability to roll with the punches of tonners, and has flat out tanked the punches of tonners...and knowledge of nerve strikes and more.

The only thing Danny is missing in this fight is his Iron Fist technique, the thing that allows him to one shot helicarriers, destroy trains and hang with various heavy hitters, and is something that he has plenty of combat feats without using. He still has his chi for superhuman physicals, healing, and so on. If Slade had some knowledge and intel on Danny (which is where two of his biggest strengths come in against foes), then I might be swayed to back him. In a random encounter though without prep, just a straight hand to hand battle in a limited space arena, and none of Slade's special gear or tech on hand...I have to back Danny. He has the physicals and ability to pull the win here. This whole setup and fight is right up Danny's ally.

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#30 Posted by reaverlation (25830 posts) - - Show Bio

Danny

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#31 Posted by ANTHP2000 (25709 posts) - - Show Bio

Deathstroke, handily under these circumstances.

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#32 Posted by depinhom (13506 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow, looks like Danny is gonna go 4-0. Don't worry, he's got a real good fight coming up next.

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#33 Posted by Jooosh1996 (2689 posts) - - Show Bio

Okay after thinking about it Slade gets regularly beaten by Bruce who IMO is inferior in H2H combat than Danny even without the IF (Thats another argument though) Slades physicals are not high enough to defeat Danny in a strictly hand to hand combat fight.

Danny wins...again.

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#34 Posted by Nathaniel_Adam (3703 posts) - - Show Bio

@jooosh1996: Okay after thinking about it Slade gets regularly beaten by Bruce

Where do you get this feeling from. Stroke's been mostly always the winner if not the dominant one.

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#35 Posted by deactivated-5bac3c9aeae57 (47 posts) - - Show Bio

Okay after thinking about it Slade gets regularly beaten by Bruce who IMO is inferior in H2H combat than Danny even without the IF (Thats another argument though) Slades physicals are not high enough to defeat Danny in a strictly hand to hand combat fight.

Danny wins...again.

Danny wins.

Why do you think Bruce is inferior to Danny in H2H skill even without IF? Can you show me some scans of Danny fighting without chi to prove your statement?

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#36 Posted by Jooosh1996 (2689 posts) - - Show Bio

@deepkaku: I said without the IF not without chi...

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#39 Posted by jay_z94 (8200 posts) - - Show Bio

Deathstroke, handily under these circumstances.

How?

Slade has no prep or gear. Danny still has his Chi which grants him superhuman physicals and healing. Then on top of this, Danny is more skilled than Slade.

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#40 Posted by ANTHP2000 (25709 posts) - - Show Bio

@jay_z94: Because OP clearly restricts the Iron Fist.

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@anthp2000 said:

@jay_z94: Because OP clearly restricts the Iron Fist.

The Iron Fist is a component of his Chi, performed by channeling his Chi into his fist. It's not the Chi itself.

Basically, you can still have chi without the iron fist, but you can't have the iron fist without chi.

Danny's use of the Iron Fist is restricted, but he still has his Chi for superhuman physicals and healing.

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#42 Posted by King-Ragnar (3729 posts) - - Show Bio

@jay_z94: Because OP clearly restricts the Iron Fist.

It restricts The Iron Fist itself, meaning he can't use Shou Lou's Chi but he can still use his own personal Chi.

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#43 Posted by jay_z94 (8200 posts) - - Show Bio

@anthp2000 said:

@jay_z94: Because OP clearly restricts the Iron Fist.

It restricts The Iron Fist itself, meaning he can't use Shou Lou's Chi but he can still use his own personal Chi.

Really? I thought he could still use all chi but just not the Iron Fist move itself. As in he can't channel Chi into his fist.

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#44 Posted by King-Ragnar (3729 posts) - - Show Bio

@jay_z94 said:
@king-ragnar said:
@anthp2000 said:

@jay_z94: Because OP clearly restricts the Iron Fist.

It restricts The Iron Fist itself, meaning he can't use Shou Lou's Chi but he can still use his own personal Chi.

Really? I thought he could still use all chi but just not the Iron Fist move itself. As in he can't channel Chi into his fist.

Oh my bad, didn't read the OP properly. It says he can't use the Fist, doesn't mean he can't use both his Shou Lou's Chi to amp his stats.

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#45 Posted by jay_z94 (8200 posts) - - Show Bio

@king-ragnar: Exactly 😉