Superhero Fight Club #15: 616 Ironfist vs 616 Beast

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Didn't Hank get beaten handily by Daredevil in Daredevil Vol 1? I can't imagine this going any better.

He did, albeit he was being mind controlled.

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OT : Danny wins for a solid majority.

Why are both comments for Danny and all votes for Beast?

without Chi i don't think Danny could beat Elektra (in fact it was shown he couldn't)

Hank should comfortably take a majority here

@king-ragnar said:

@juiceboks said:

Didn't Hank get beaten handily by Daredevil in Daredevil Vol 1? I can't imagine this going any better.

He did, albeit he was being mind controlled.

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OT : Danny wins for a solid majority.

that feat was horrendous amounts of PiS... Daredevil KO'ing Hercules... thats obviously a feat that cannot be taken seriously

@warlockmage: Whilst i do agree it has some PIS to it, Matt didn't KO Hercules. Only people that were KOed were Hank and Rogers.

@king-ragnar said:

@warlockmage: Whilst i do agree it has some PIS to it, Matt didn't KO Hercules. Only people that were KOed were Hank and Rogers.

That's a good point.

When was this? And what does Elektra have to do with Beast?

@king-ragnar said:

@warlockmage: Whilst i do agree it has some PIS to it, Matt didn't KO Hercules. Only people that were KOed were Hank and Rogers.

and Matt KOing Beast and Cap that easily is not at all PiS? come on @brucerogers and myself both agree this is complete PiS especially since Matt has struggled with Cap before

and that Beast was doing stuff like this

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he was able to tank a blow from a Black Knight statue in Avengers 157 (this same statue 1 shot Captain America in the same issue)

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Beast also tanked a blow from Powerman that sent him flying across the city in Avengers 164

and in Avengers 155 Beast was tanking blows from Atuma

this particular incarnation of Beast was extremely durable and Daredevil doing what he did is absolutely PIS... the only way you could argue differently is by having no knowledge of Beast's time as an Avenger

the Defenders comic where Danny had to resort to using an AoE chi blast to KO her,

and Beast is faster, stronger, more durable, and has a superior healing factor to Elektra. not to mention hes not particularly unskilled... so if Danny couldn't beat the slower, less durable, weaker Elektra without chi how is he going to beat Hank Hank.

@warlockmage: Yep, I agree. He shouldn't be able to take on people like Cap, Herc and Beast at the same time and then trounce them on top of it.

@king-ragnar: He might not have beaten him unconscious, but he still brought him to his knees and took him out for the rest of the fight. That's essentially a KO.

Hard to say for me. In comparison to Iron Fist, Beast is actually "unskilled", but still has good physicals to make up for it. This is actually the problem, Danny has to fight a strong and durable brawler.

Without Chi I'd actually go with Hank

@warlockmage: Well I did say I do agree that there is PIS to it. Matt shouldn't be able to beat Steve and Hank that easily.

the Defenders comic where Danny had to resort to using an AoE chi blast to KO her,

This isn't particularly a bad showing for Danny given how skilled and fast Elektra is, it also could be argued that he didn't really want to fight Elektra and just wanted to talk.

so if Danny couldn't beat the slower, less durable, weaker Elektra without chi how is he going to beat Hank Hank.

No offence but that sounds like basic ABC logic . If you're going to mention his fight with Elektra, you might as well mention his fights with Diamond back, Luke Cage and Sabretooth. All whom have high levels of durability.

Danny has dealt with brawler before, he’s taken on Luke and Sabertooth, and given them both hell, even without chi. He should win in a solid fight.

Beast.

Hank stomps.

Beast wins.

Was reading some early X-Men material for Iceman, but Beast is actually pretty impressive. His speed is pretty underrated tbh, he has plenty of FTE feats in his human form. I'd post scans but I'm not on my personal laptop.

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