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Rules

Round 1: Post-Crisis Supergirl

Round 2: New 52 Supergirl

Round 3: Rebirth Supergirl

DBZ 18

No prep.

Win via K.O.

Both are in character.

Who wins?

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#2  Edited By SacredScarab

Android 18 wins all rounds . Here some scaling

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I like 18 better but come on DBZ scali6 is nuts Kara wrecks all rounds

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#5  Edited By yanshinsen

supergirl runs through all the androids and leaves them in pieces before they notice, either that or lasers them to pieces before they can react either way

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18 no-sells the planet lvl fodder and kicks Kara’s head off…

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@nassergrant19: Nah most monkeyverse feats are outliers.

They depend on energy blast but have a poor blunt force not mention thier energy blast has been debunked already.

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#8 takenstew22  Moderator

Supergirl is weaker than Superman. 18 stomps.

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#9  Edited By nassergrant19

Monkeywat?💀

OT: 18 oneshots

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#10  Edited By Omega7373663
@jimohkolawol10 said:

@nassergrant19: Nah most monkeyverse feats are outliers.

They depend on energy blast but have a poor blunt force not mention thier energy blast has been debunked already.

What kind of cope is this ?

OT : 18 blink she scales massively above planet level

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@nassergrant19: Am glad you said 18 tanked planet buster attack now let me ask you this.

Be honest, I know you ain't a biased or wanker like those two above saying nonsense.

Why did vegeta died to planetry attack in DBS?

Why couldn't 18 survive aswell when friezer destroyed earth?

Why did it's take so long for bloodlusted friezer blast to destroy namek despite having a tough fight with goku?

Why did vegeta super saiyan two sacrificed explosive blast merely destroyed a island ?

See so many outliers full this shitty monkeyverse.

But we can agree to disagree if still think otherwise.

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#13  Edited By nassergrant19

@jimohkolawol10:

Why did vegeta died to planetry attack in DBS?

It was planet lvl in DC not AP. AP beyond that of BOG Goku hitting an Off-Guard Vegeta would definitely kill him.

Why couldn't 18 survive aswell when friezer destroyed earth?

BOG Goku would vape BOS 18….let alone ROF Frieza.

Why did it's take so long for bloodlusted friezer blast to destroy namek despite having a tough fight with goku?

Because due to his arrogance and willingness to prove he was stronger than Goku he minimized the power of his attack at the last second. It’s literally stated…

Why did vegeta super saiyan two sacrificed explosive blast merely destroyed a island ?

Because AP=/=DC

See so many outliers full this shitty monkeyverse.

No, it’s just you not understanding the series powerscaling.

But we can agree to disagree if still think otherwise.

Ok

OT: 18 oneshots

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#14  Edited By Eredin12

18 would break Superman in half, never mind Supergirl. Super Saiyan-level characters, who are better than high tiers like Thor/Supes, were unable to even harm her ( even with a sword)

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#15  Edited By Omega7373663
@jimohkolawol10 said:

@nassergrant19: Am glad you said 18 tanked planet buster attack now let me ask you this.

Be honest, I know you ain't a biased or wanker like those two above saying nonsense.

Why did vegeta died to planetry attack in DBS?

Why couldn't 18 survive aswell when friezer destroyed earth?

Why did it's take so long for bloodlusted friezer blast to destroy namek despite having a tough fight with goku?

Why did vegeta super saiyan two sacrificed explosive blast merely destroyed a island ?

See so many outliers full this shitty monkeyverse.

But we can agree to disagree if still think otherwise.

Any sane person knows that AP≠DC but here we go

Why did vegeta died to planetry attack in DBS?

Because Saiyans can't survive in Space like this should be common knowledge.

Why couldn't 18 survive aswell when friezer destroyed earth?

She was caught off guard plus AP≠DC as I said above

Why did it's take so long for bloodlusted friezer blast to destroy namek despite having a tough fight with goku?

Freiza literally explained by himself that he didn't blow up the planet immediately so he can have a fair fight with Goku

Why did vegeta super saiyan two sacrificed explosive blast merely destroyed a island ?

Aside the fact that AP≠DC I don't think it takes a genius to realise that Vegeta's intention wasn't to blow up Earth

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@omega7373663: Goku did survive in space lol.

Vegeta unleashes his all and it's not up to country sized.

She was cought off guard? then how was she able to nosell it completely in dbz.

DC is still can be judged close to what the AP did not equal atlest close enough.

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#17  Edited By kataraaaa

18 bullied SSJ Vegeta who was above SSJ Goku. The same SSJ Goku who was 3 years after defeating Frieza, meaning he’s atleast above his Namek self, and Namek Goku wins this fight as it is without SSJ, let alone with it

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That 18 wallpaper is fire btw, could make a solid homescreen 👀

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@nassergrant19: You are right it's was AP blast from base friezer!!!(a far weaker version than SS2 and god form) yet it's still killed vegeta see my points, how could a less versio powerful enough to kill vegeta at blue form.

BOG goku will vape 18....let alone ROF frizer but it's was a base frizer who is exhausted from fighting goku

https://youtu.be/I8YcvUXqRCk?si=jV8LM6Unb4quqgmi.

At last second!! No He was later angry as hell to beat goku up transmofing into muscular freezer and some of his attacks goku dodge yet it's didn't destroyed the planet.

DC doesn't equal to Ap I know that, but DC does come close to AP nevertheless the situation maybe.

While I agree 18 does beat new 52 to my knowledge, don't really know mutch about rebirth but post crisis I doubt 18 can take on her.post crisis is well above dbz characters.

What about the blunt force as it's different from energy attacks and non of db verse has shown to hit with blunt force capable of shattering planets.

To me energy blast>blunt strike in DBverse.

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@sacredscarab: Those scaling and words are unquantifiable since in DBS whiz states it's will take two destroyer to destroy the universe.

God red goku>SS3>SS2>SS1>\<friezer.

God red goku only shook the universe and didn't destroy earth basically freezer capable of destroying universe is outlier and mere words without a backed up feat.

18 or any characters from dbz saga will lose to post crisis supergirl if we go by thier feats.

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#21  Edited By jimohkolawol10

R1 supergirl stomps.

R2 either way

R2 dont know,dont care

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@jimohkolawol10: you are lowballing tf out of DBZ, and it is extremly sad to watch, stop this insanity now before I am forced to ruthlessly rebut all of your "arguments".

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@poopooeater: How is that a lowball? am pointing out some outliers from monkeyverse some of you ignored.its not me lowballing, all I said was shown in the anime unless you have never even watched the anime and trying to make me look like am lowballing them.

Am a goku fanboy but when some seems to wank and ignores some outliers I simply try to correct it and make them understand.

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#24  Edited By soratoumga

Supergirl has faced and defeated enemies far more powerful than anything 18 has done, she stomps hard, actually 18 has never conclusively defeated anyone relevant, she is one of those useless background female shonen characters like nami and lucy, only once cornered ssj vegeta and team-eliminated ribrianne who was a laughable fodder, even in dragon ball heroes she did nothing, other than getting absorbed by super 17 and unlocking him a new form called Super 17 (18 Absorbed)

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18 stomps

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#26  Edited By Omega7373663

@omega7373663: Goku did survive in space lol.

Vegeta unleashes his all and it's not up to country sized.

She was cought off guard? then how was she able to nosell it completely in dbz.

DC is still can be judged close to what the AP did not equal atlest close enough.

Saiyans can't survive in Space this was literally stated

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Vegeta unleashes his all and it's not up to country sized.

Except again you are acting as if Vegeta wanted to destroy earth which is definitely not the case, Vegeta isn't that dumb

She was cought off guard? then how was she able to nosell it completely in dbz.

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DC is still can be judged close to what the AP did not equal atlest close enough.

No ? They aren't always close I can have building level DC and yet I still have Universal AP and there is something called ki control in DB

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@nassergrant19: Nah most monkeyverse feats are outliers.

They depend on energy blast but have a poor blunt force not mention thier energy blast has been debunked already.

if those are the majority of feats then they by definition arent outliers, they are the scaling meta

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#28  Edited By PooPooEater
@jimohkolawol10 said:

@nassergrant19: Am glad you said 18 tanked planet buster attack now let me ask you this.

Be honest, I know you ain't a biased or wanker like those two above saying nonsense.

Why did vegeta died to planetry attack in DBS?

response: we dont know that the attack was ony planetary just bc it destroyed earth, we aso dont know that vegeta died, if he did die, it very well couldve been due to the fact he didnt have oxygen.

Why couldn't 18 survive aswell when friezer destroyed earth?

response: same thing also they cant sense her ki so we shoudnt assume 18 died bc theres no way to know

Why did it's take so long for bloodlusted friezer blast to destroy namek despite having a tough fight with goku?

response: he didnt want to destroy the panet, his intention was to destroy the core, so he held back, which is stated.

Why did vegeta super saiyan two sacrificed explosive blast merely destroyed a island ?

response: Attack potency=/=destructive capability also ki control as stated by toriyama, if you actuay think majin vegeta is island level your beyond help. if we go by your explanation and not mine we'd say that "he only destroyed an island therefore thats his level of power". that would contradict so many feats in the series itd make no sense, and it becomes obvious that my explanation is better.

See so many outliers full this shitty monkeyverse.

response: the things you think are outiers arent actually outliers

But we can agree to disagree if still think otherwise.

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#29  Edited By PooPooEater

@jimohkolawol10:

also you keep using the dc of attacks to downplay their dc. heres the truth: when comes to alot of verses and especially dragonball the dc can be very different from the ap. for instance: if I can destroy a planet and im fighting someone with planetary durability, i may only do building level damage to my surroundings. i will now provide and example of this: in the broly movie broly and vegeta have the power to warp themselves to and from another dimension but there exposions were muti city block level

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#30  Edited By jimohkolawol10

@omega7373663: You haven't answered why was goku able to?

Vegeta isn't that dumb to destroy earth but he was serious enough to unleash his all your still doesn't change what I said.

Ap is regularly judged by DC and they are always close to each other eg ; nukes

Having universal Ap and building lvl DC is absolutely ridiculous.

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#31  Edited By jimohkolawol10

@poopooeater: Use that scaling for all feats still leads you to outlier

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#32  Edited By Omega7373663
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@omega7373663: You haven't answered why was goku able to?

Vegeta isn't that dumb to destroy earth but he was serious enough to unleash his all your still doesn't change what I said.

Ap is regularly judged by DC and they are always close to each other eg ; nukes

Having universal Ap and building lvl DC is absolutely ridiculous.

You haven't answered why was goku able to?

Goku never did ?

Vegeta isn't that dumb to destroy earth but he was serious enough to unleash his all your still doesn't change what I said.

If he's not dumb to destroy earth then he's obviously not going to do that, context and intent matters also there is something called ki control which allows them to not only adjust their power levels but it also allows them to concentrate their attacks so they can cause minimal destruction so in the end it really doesn't matters

Ap is regularly judged by DC and they are always close to each other eg ; nukes

They are not AP is completely separated from DC

eg ; nukes

This isn't real life physics here so I could care less about that

Having universal Ap and building lvl DC is absolutely ridiculous.

This is fiction here so it doesn't Matter.

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@Eredin12 can probably explain ki control better than me

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Since it’s just z round one I think goes to Supergirl though it’s tough. Next two rounds no clue

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#36  Edited By Eredin12
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Since it’s just z round one I think goes to Supergirl though it’s tough. Next two rounds no clue

No, 18 would break her in half with utter ease. She has much better feats, Supergirl is not even planetary, she is weaker than Superman who himself is weaker than Namek's high tiers consistently

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Ap is regularly judged by DC and they are always close to each other eg ; nukes

In stuff like RL bombs yea but not in fictional characters fighting, 99% of the time when Superman or even beings like Lucifer and Micheal fight, not even the city is destroyed. This is all destruction multiversal beings like Lucifer and Micheal caused in their fight where they were both going all out:

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In DBZ, KI control is also explained as being able to have high AP but limit DC

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18 should dogwalk unless you wanna use inconsistent outlier feats that she would never be able to replicate normally.

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@omega7373663: Yh goku did survive in space fighting beerus in the anime man.

Ap is completely separated from DC? What!! No,I disagree.

I know this isn't a real life physics but either ways it's does apply.

Because it's fictional doesn't mean physics is ignored.

Thou I have understood the ki control from your explanation but it's still limited just like vegeta's two cases.pls I don't need you to direct me to someone like "eredin" of all people in the cav he/her words are meaningless to me.

Thanks anyways for the ki control clarification.

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Post crisis supergirl still fries her with absolutely ease.

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#40  Edited By jimohkolawol10

@byondeon: They are not outliers they are high end feats simple as that, "IGNORANCE"only occurs when it's comes to "FAVORITISM".

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#41  Edited By PooPooEater

@jimohkolawol10: lol Its a high end feat if it's dc, but its an outlier if it's dragon ball. Talk about favoritism...

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#42  Edited By jimohkolawol10

@poopooeater: Too many inconsistent lies in the monkeyverse Lol. Favouritism does occurs well in monkeyverse fans like "shamsahack and eredin" probbly you aswell and so many more,And you questioned me about FAVORITISM when it's clear who does it the most lol.As expected from monkeyverse fan wanker obviously lol.

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@byondeon: They are not outliers they are high end feats simple as that, "IGNORANCE"only occurs when it's comes to "FAVORITISM".

Inconsistent outliers, not high-ends. Her high-ends are planetary if we are generous.

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@poopooeater: Too many inconsistent lies in the monkeyverse Lol.

Lies??? who's lying?

Favouritism does occurs well in monkeyverse fans like "shamsahack and eredin"

two quo qu fallacy

probbly you aswell and so many more,

whataboutism will get you nowhere. also lol@ u saying I "probably" practice favoritism, you only say probably because you know your accusation is baseless. Im perfectly willing to say that a character from another verse can beat a dbz character if thats what the evidence points too, Ive never had a problem with some comic characters beating some dbz ones.

And you questioned me about FAVORITISM when it's clear who does it the most lol.As expected from monkeyverse fan wanker obviously lol.

genuine question: whats with this weird monkeyverse thing you keep saying? its not really insulting, it just comes off as bizzare.

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@byondeon: Nothing says otherwise for monkeyverse

Generosity for DBverse mui goku is Less to planetary.

See!!? I can also play your game.

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@byondeon: Nothing says otherwise for monkeyverse

Generosity for DBverse mui goku is Less to planetary.

See!!? I can also play your game.

You haven't watched or read Dragonball Z and the Dragon Ball manga huh

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@byondeon said:
@jimohkolawol10 said:

@byondeon: Nothing says otherwise for monkeyverse

Generosity for DBverse mui goku is Less to planetary.

See!!? I can also play your game.

You haven't watched or read Dragonball Z and the Dragon Ball manga huh

TBF why read the Manga when the anime non movies and filler feats have way more feats of power than the Manga alone does?

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@omega7373663: Yh goku did survive in space fighting beerus in the anime man.

Ap is completely separated from DC? What!! No,I disagree.

I know this isn't a real life physics but either ways it's does apply.

Because it's fictional doesn't mean physics is ignored.

Thou I have understood the ki control from your explanation but it's still limited just like vegeta's two cases.pls I don't need you to direct me to someone like "eredin" of all people in the cav he/her words are meaningless to me.

Thanks anyways for the ki control clarification.

Yh goku did survive in space fighting beerus in the anime man.

They were fighting in the atmosphere

Ap is completely separated from DC? What!! No,I disagree.

Well fiction does also disagree with you

I know this isn't a real life physics but either ways it's does apply.

It does not apply to Fiction no

Because it's fictional doesn't mean physics is ignored.

Yes it does Fiction does not always follow logic

Thou I have understood the ki control from your explanation but it's still limited just like vegeta's two cases

It's limited sure but it's still allows them to not cause too much damage to the earth, for example Cell max made a Moon sized blast and then he concentrated it and made it Building sized (skip to 0:50) :

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@byondeon said:
@jimohkolawol10 said:

@byondeon: Nothing says otherwise for monkeyverse

Generosity for DBverse mui goku is Less to planetary.

See!!? I can also play your game.

You haven't watched or read Dragonball Z and the Dragon Ball manga huh

TBF why read the Manga when the anime non movies and filler feats have way more feats of power than the Manga alone does?

The Manga imo is better than the anime, so I prefer that. Though Anime is always gonna be having better feats than the manga for some reason. Despite following close to each other.