Superboy-Prime VS. Thanos and Final Form Ultron

Rules

• Thanos does not have the Infinity Gauntlet
• Morals on
• Win by KO or death
• Who wins?

Callouts

Superboy can take it if you give him his high end feats. Though being able to fight BWL is still a massive outlier for me. But considering that he has lost to much less...

Yeah no. Prime is strong, but not this strong.

Final Form could probably solo just fine.

Is this just base Thanos or does he have the IG if he doesn't he gets retconed.

Ultron is quite though but if this Prime is the one who matched BWL he wins aswell.

@professorrespect: No.

If this is prime who fought BWL he gets retconed

@clarkkent10 said:

Thanos does not have the Infinity Gauntlet.

@bigmoistjunior: Alright then. He gets one shotted.

Prime. One-shots both.

Superboy punches and shatters them out of reality

Not regular Prime, ofc. That and you can't "retcon" someone who doesn't need a body. Not how that works.

The "Retcon punch" strikes again lol...

@morningstar999: I mean its not like he has done it several times already.

@professorrespect: Regular Prime still scales above regular odin which Ultron killed

No he doesn't.

Prime two shots.

The duo takes this.

@professorrespect: He does. Odin is typically around Multi-Galaxy meanwhile first appearance Prime was tanking attacks from the Anti-monitor and even tanked a big Bang.

Well, if normally Prime is even near multi galaxy level he two shots these two lol. I just think the BWL stuff doesn't make sense.

He doesn't even get close to that level consistently. Guy was getting stalemated by Superboy alone in Infinite Crisis. Mid tiers were scoring good shots on him.

@professorrespect: That's why I was dubious to begin with. And I feel like the BWL thing is an outlier.

@eredin12: No I haven't reached that far yet. I've been read about Perpetua basically. I've to read a lot in rebirth. But I wanted to read about Perpetua more, as I like her design. Though from basic knowledge BWL seems around Perpetua.

Yeah that's what he tanked he's waves...also every hero was at their best in Pre crisis.

Well I wasn't talking about that one fight and also he wasn't saved he was lost in time even the Time trapper said he found him.

He destroyed Superboy their first fight and Superboy had to call entire teams just to be destroyed by Prime.

Also ignoring the fact that the Flash Family were getting beaten and had to give the entirety of the speed force to Bart.

Also didn't Prime break out of the Phantom zone by punching it? I believe he also retconned Beast boy while doing so.

Don't think Ultron is even close to solar system level. And vaporizing planets should be>>>planet busting in general. So yeah, he probably wins.

@professorrespect: Just to be clear, that same Pre-crisis Supergirl will destroy/one-shot Thanos. Despite who do you think wins.

Prime

Not really. Pre Crisis is dangerously inconsistent. I think trying to consider otherwise is a task that I wouldn't put anyone on.

Absolutely not, I don't think SM is inconsistent let alone SG. Pre-crisis Superman could very well destroy multiple Thanos for eg. Pretty easy and a mismatch debate etc

In your opinion, but I think no one would ever seriously say that Pre Crisis guys are consistent. I most definitely couldn't in good judgement say so.

@professorrespect: I wasn't aware Luthor went into the Phantom zone with prime thanks for the new information. Also prime also broke out of the Speed force I guess Alexander also went inside with him? Right?

Except they were.

Dude Prime killed Superboy lol what do you mean stalemated lol, I mean I now you hate prime but don't lie about it.

Yes, but that's your opinion too. And most people have a problem with a version of SM being powerful really. But that is also an opinion.

I know we've had our debates and if it helps I've already told people to CAV Thanos vs Pre-crisis SM lol. Most of them agree it's a mismatch.

@professorrespect: If you think Thanos can beat Pre crisis superman why don't we CaV it? What do you say Base Thanos vs Pre crisis Sups?

@thewalterwhite: Consensus based on user input isn't proof of anything but the very act itself. Users on CV for a majority used to think that Apocalypse had great feats and could beat Thor or Hulk a good few years back. All I'm saying is that no one has seriously made that claim in all my years. You can still make the claim, naturally.

@clarkkent10: I don't CaV as it's a pointless endeavour dictated by CV politics. That's been my policy since day one.

@professorrespect: I get the Plotline yes.

Also Prime had only appeared in the crisis beforehand he isn't exactly a recurring character normally. Does that somehow negate his feats, well i don't believe so. I'll believe you if you can find statements that the Phantom zone and Speed force were already weakened though.

If the explosion Killed Superboy who was supposedly matched with Prime than why didn't prime die aswell?

Sure that's why.

@professorrespect:

Consensus based on user input isn't proof of anything but the very act itself.

I'm not understanding you, you brought consensus up. I just said that I know for a fact that one of them at least is consistent that is SG she's not having many appearances like SM does. SM is not that inconsistent but Thanos isn't a super consistent comic book character. Besides him being fodder for this SM.

Users on CV for a majority used to think that Apocalypse had great feats and could beat Thor or Hulk a good few years back.

IDC about what majority used to think :P this is also not that relevant since consistency as a topic is different for individuals and chars.

All I'm saying is that no one has seriously made that claim in all my years.

Surprising. Though tbh and a little blunt, I don't like how you with authority claim that XD. I mean 3-4 years? is still pretty less.

You can still make the claim, naturally.

That's what I'm saying. Though we can agree to disagree since Prime isn't a character I like. So I won't defend him individually. But I just wanted to clarify one part that is used to lowball Anti-Monitor.

The duo easily.

Does prime actually one shot or are people wanking high end Superman feats again

People are wanking his TBWL fight even though there was context behind it.

Bump.

Probably the duo.

Multiversal Superboy Prime is a joke.