Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann Vs The Combined Mad Celestial

fight takes place in space

The get rag dolled.

Probability missiles?

Who gets ragdolled?

your mama that's in my bed right now serosuily thought the celestials die even if we go soley on high ends their best feats were beating galactus who is nothing to sttgtl the also lost to a few asgardains at one point meaning the have terrible low ends sttgtl should oneshot.

I feel like I should answer with a witty comeback, but I'm honestly not in the mood right now. Lol

comeback comeback for an asswhooping lol fair enough have a good rest

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I just want to clear up a few things with your post:

1) The Mad Celestials one shotted Galactus. This was a Galactus who fed on multiple planets to prepare for this fight. And before you low play Galactus' durability, he was shown on panel surviving the destruction of his previous universe. This took place just a few comics before the Mad Celestials arrived.

2) The Mad Celestials have some decent feats. They beat thousands of Reed Richards who had prep, three IG's, Starbrand and an Ultimate Nullifier. They were even causing multiversal problems by being here.

3) The Mad Celestials are different than the Fourth Host who fought Asgardia.

Don't know anything about STTGL so I can't begin to debate who I think wins. I just wanted to clear this up.

@betarayz8317: he's a mecha composed of energy and is 52 billion light years tall he Also has a drill which is 10 times his size and a weaker version of him was already throwing galaxies like shurikens

This seems out of the Mad Celestials League.

@lettsplay10: Should you add Franklin Richards to even things up?

@betarayz8317: Franklin Richards would completely destroy him

1 galactus never did he survived because he was chosen not out of his own power the phoenix pulled him out before he faced the big bang

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Gotcha. Then I feel that if the Mad Celestial is already formed, then he could kill STTGL with one hit. The Mad Celestial is no joke. Do you have any high end feats for STTGL?

@betarayz8317: his punches are strong enough to destroy galaxies he can take attacks with the power of the big bang and on top of that he has a drill that can engulf the entire universe

The Combined Mad Celestial is supposed to be more powerful than Franklin. This is why he needed help.

Galaxy level isn't impressive here.

He can tank universal attacks? Actual attacks that could level an entire universe? Or are they just attacks that have the energy of the big bang in them? This would be kind of what Surfer did to defeat the two Gods. There is a big difference between then two. Can I have scans?

@betarayz8317: http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/kingofash/blog/gurren-lagann-respect-that-will-pierce-the-disresp/90257/

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STTGL is just really big. Odin can replicate a lot of his feats. Mismatch.

@darkbiscuit: you think he is just big nothing else?

STTGL appears from 8:20

@lettsplay10: obviously he has a LOT of power behind him, but Celestials are casual universal reality warpers. Hulk cant beat MJJ. Similar comparison here imo

STTGL via faster combat speed?

STTGL's roflstomps especially if Simon is piloting the guy is a literal God.

STTGL, as he has better feats of destructive power.

@darkbiscuit: STTGL Can bust the entire universe too if he wants

@lettsplay10: As far as i know he does so essentially via sheer physical power. Reality manipulation is an entirely different field

It was Simon (the pilot alone) was universal at the EOS. Reality warping that is. It was also implied that his powers worked on a multi dimensional scale and that he was literally God

Just tossing that out there

@decaf_wizard: Any feats where he puts that to work?

I havent watched the anime, but my friends have mentioned it a LOT to me, sttgl in particular. Theyve never mentioned him warping reality on a universal scale in such a manner, let alone in a fight. Literally Odin has replicated a lot of his kost impressive feats (i.e. throwing/destroying galaxies)

@darkbiscuit: not its most impressive feat, gurren lagann can attack all points in time and space with probability altering missiles with the precision of Planck time. Does the mad celestial have any defenses against probability manipulation?

@itlutheaos: i don't remember anything about 'EVERY Point in space time" iirc it was just multiple points not every point.

If mutli-galaxy busting/durability is STTGLs best feats...

...1 Mad Celestial would stomp!!

A single Celestial can arguably hold its own against STTGL.

The Mad Celestial's stomp.

STTGL should be multi-universal based on the Giga Dreal Break, which is 582 billion light-years long and has a cone area of 180 times the size of STTGL, enough to hold around 100 universes inside of it (yes, it's from a wiki but the size is official and the math should check out). So, no, STTGL is not galaxy level lol (even TTGL is above galaxy level). Also, the galaxies they destroyed/fought on were mega galaxies hundreds/thousands of times bigger than the Milky Way.

I don't know if STTGL would win though, as I have no idea about the Mad Celestials.

STTGL:

-Killed a being that created more than one universe. (At least 3 confirmed in series)

-Destroyed an 11th dimensional universe. What is that? Compare the total area of a 2D square against a 3D cube. Then do that 9 more times.

-(With GDB) Is physically larger than our observable universe and can traverse multiple times it's own body length in a very short timespan.

-Manipulates space, time, and probability

@thelocust619: mad celestial beat infinity gaunlet users. IG gives infinite control over aspects of the universe. And if you wanna go with the dimensional BS power cosmic galactus uses is beyond dimensions altogether and he got stomped by the celestials.

@nwgzsjuwhm96y2: I didn't bring up the 11D aspect to show STTGL is on some kind of higher plain, I was just trying to illustrate the size of the universe it was in.

That's an unbelievably poor example. The current IG is no where near classic levels, and someone like Reed has very few feats with it.

@thelocust619: its not a bigger size its a different type of size. Busting a higher dimensional universe is unquantifable. It can be done with 1 joules or infinite. Depends on the length of each dimension. And it was between 10 and 11th dimension. In that context it definitely means universe not direction.

@nwgzsjuwhm96y2: That first sentence make no sense at all. Spacial dimensions describe size, an object with more dimensions invariably covers more area. The point is this is an insanely large universe.

@jardinain2: Wrong. IG only got nerfed in area of effect. It still grants infinite power within its origin universe. Black Panther with IG was matching God Doom with the power of the Beyonders. Also the user does not matter much.

@thelocust619: a 4x4 square has more surface area than a 1x1x1 cube. cube has volume. More volume less area

@nwgzsjuwhm96y2: An equatable cube would be 4x4x4. Why are you comparing 4 v 1? 4x4x4>4x4

And surface area is irrelevant. I said area as in volume, not surface area as in just the area of the faces. Idk why you'd even mention surface area when talking about a universe...

@nwgzsjuwhm96y2:

Wrong. IG only got nerfed in area of effect.

That doesn't make any sense. The IG classic or current never effected anything greater than the universe.

Black Panther with IG was matching God Doom with the power of the Beyonders.

The dude who could barely control the Beyonder's powers, and needed an omniversal molecule man to help... who also has no impressive feats?

It still grants infinite power within its origin universe

Is that why Steve broke the Gauntlet?

Also the user does not matter much.

Captain America couldn't get the two universes apart due to his human nature. Multi-universal feats for Reed please?

@nwgzsjuwhm96y2: I couldve sworn I replied to you but anyways let me grab those scans.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/JGX3bJKoa2unEhjXq6opyfXedFvYognMe0Zlb3gjVCcGuqrLJPVT2Opsz-7T8LovaC7Cxv4cDA=w720-h1283-rw-no

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Gurren lagann (the show) does follow dimensional tiering , the universe they fought the anti spiral in was between the 10th and 11th dimensions and lordgenome also stated that the universe has a different set of dimensional axis .