@madscientist224:
"sorry, let's look at this again.
God of destruction + Goku = shared universal threat.
"Ssb Goku + ssb Vegeta = no universal threat.
Hard to follow?
So, no implication, no mention."
This should still cover up this section of your post here.......... Why would it need to be mentioned everytime that they're universal when universal level has already been clocked earlier in the BoS or super? That's like saying everytime flash runs,it is suppose to be stated that he moves at ftl speed which doesn't make sense. And the entire battles that took place as time went on or previously in Z worked on the potency scale,this has being stated multiple times by vegeta for example. Ss maneouvers attacks on potency as well like Athena Exclamation that focuses universal level force to a single point.
"Best feat so far stands as a shared between ssb gogeta and broly, who dimension busted an unquantified dimension."
I didn't even made mention goketa and broly neither did I needed gogeta in the first place. I can scale ssb goku to universal level all I want. But if you can't comprehend the logic behind attack on potency like for instance, the comic World War hulk vs sentry battle was borderline city level in dc even though World War hulk and sentry are clearly multi planetary via feats they replicated at some different point in time. I could keep going with a list to explain to you how Attacks on potency works. Vegeta even stated in Z about how attacks they manoeuvre works on the potency scale. By your logic Gold saints are wall level as their attacks were seen destroying temple walls and even Hades was oneshotted from one. Now I won't have hinted on this if you'd not presented this flawed nature of debating faculty. I mean there are so many scenarios I could pick from to work with your flawed lowballing dbs logic from saint seiya itself.
"Scale all you want. Ssb Goku is not a universe threat not has the potential to universe bust."
Lol mate stop trolling ridiculously and embarrassing the saint seiya fan base. So ssg goku gets to be a threat to the universe that is comprised of outer realms via mere punches that should be multi galaxy "should've been universal but leave it at multi galaxy because it wasn't his feat alone" but Ssb doesn't get to be not just a universe threat right? Flawed indeed. Ssb goku is universal in a borderline scale. All you can manoeuvre to refute are flawed logic and claims you keep repeating even after they've been debunked.
"A GoD has the potential to universe bust, because, well, kinda goes with the job."
How does destruction being a God's job takes away dc feats from other tiers? Lol this is just hilarious. That's like saying whis can't destroy what beerus can because it isn't his job even though he's ridiculously stronger than beerus and also his teacher who one shotted him with a neck chop.
"Saiyinis don't have the potential, cuz, well, they've never been shown to be able to at any level."
Irrelevant and baseless logic here. The same Saiyans "gegeta and broly" shattered/destroyed the dimension they punched their way into. Goku himself dealt universal busting punches alongside beerus via just three strikes, we've statements confirming this. And Goku attained Godhood back in his Ssg state which progressed to ssb and so on. He basically has the same God ki as beerus which can't be sensed. Even whis himself has stated goku and vegeta would make good God of destruction so just stop with this absurd level of debating skill mate.
"If Goku had not fought a GoD, then the universe would not have been in potential danger...plain and simple."
Yep if he'd not fought beerus then and attained godhood himself which helped him in sharing that universal+ busting feat, the universal wouldn't have being in danger. I agree with this. Nothing stated the universe was threatened then because goku was facing a God lol. What we know was the colliding of their punches caused those shock waves and nothing more. Stop using a flawed and absurd head canon logic to interprete the statements and feats we got from the franchise in your words. I mean this is basically you being the writter of dbs and stating shit that wasn't even hinted on in the first place.
"So, simple logic and common sense says, since the only universal feat Goku has is shared with a GoD, then a GoD would need to be involved again to endanger the universe, unless otherwise stated in canon material (which it's not)."
So if Goten or trunks for example faces beerus,we would get a universal feat because they're facing a God right? I hope you can tell how stupid your claims are with this direct question mate. You're the troll here with the hating lowballing fiction because you're basically interpreting the series in a different retarded way. The series didn't made mention of anything like goku punching at universal level then being because he was facing a God and that if he wasn't facing a God next time, he wouldn't be universal. This is all from your hating fiction head canon logic.
Seiya himself has no universal level feat or let's put it at star level feats. If three gold saints aren't burning and combining their maximum Cosmo, we ain't getting universal feats. I mean I like how you keep dodging ways of providing claims for seiya winning against ssb goku in this thread.
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