Super Saiyan 4 Goku Vs Final Form Frost

Goku when he was beating Syn Shenron Vs Final Form Frost without a needle fight takes place at the cell games

if ssj goku was sotmping frost then ssj4 goku 1 shots

Super Saiyan 4 Goku wins

Final Form Frost is abuot super buu level

@jplaya2023: keep in mind Goku in his base now is stronger than Dbz Ssj Vegito Final Form Frost was above base goku thats why goku turned ssj and its said Ssj4 Goku might be equal to Ssj Vegito but this is goku when he was beating syn shenron

Ssj4 Goku.

Beata

Frost with no needle? Goku stomps. Piccolo was blocking frosts attacks with one hand and there is no reason to believe he is even stronger than SSJ3 Goku.

Goku wrecks.

frost was said to be beaten by piccolo if he had heat he's SBC, so no way in hell frost is vegito level.

my gess goku berly tap to his god power making him much much moor weak then base goku who fought frieza cuz there is no way in hell piccolo can be that strong after getting one shot by first form frieza even if he did train with gohan for that limted time.

@omri: that was a tournament they were fighting in not a fight to the death you can beat someone stronger than you by using strategy

Frost's stinger > Glass > SSJ4 Goku

SSJ4 Goku.

Inb4FrostmatchedGodGokuthushestompsBeeruscandestroytheuniversewank

Lol wat? How do you figure?

@lettsplay10: strategy or not frost who is evil give evrything he had to take picclo out befor the SBC heat and picclo was using one hand to protect himself one hand!! and see when goku turnd ssj and not ssj blue meen that goku wasent using is god power to make it a fair fight.

ROF base goku=final form frieza>>>>>>>>ssj vejito>>>>tournament ssj goku>>>>final form frost>>tournament base goku>>>tournament picclo

First gt vs super thread that gt actually wins lol.

It's not a stomp but Ss4 should win... Better match up would be ssj2 Goku vs Frost

First super vs gt thread that gt wins

SS4 Goku would wrekc. He's aronud the same level as Vegito.

@buttersdaman000: lets see god ki training from whis and 3 years of training

@omri: what goku got weaker?

So, you're just speculating basically? Do you how much stronger he got in his base form from his training?

@lettsplay10: goku just dident use his god ki to make it a fair fight. seeing he dident turn to ssjg blue but to normal ssj cuz if he where to use his god ki his hair was blue not gold.

I know it wasn't stated in DBS but Akira doesn't give us any reason or why he just right it without thinking the logic behind it. its not the first time it happend to so far to (tagoma being stated to be stronger then ginyu, one shot gohan and maga stomp picclo).

even if what i am saiyng is just speculating and not fact I steel belive in it to make sens whil im watching it.

Goku stomps. Frost would have lost to Piccolo if he didn't cheat.

No guys, Frost stomps because Super is universal.

@noobsnowman: seriously -_-

@lejon: Definitely, arguments for Super are too strong for me to handle so I join the bandwagon.

that's confirmed now? That's intense

@noobsnowman:  lol

Scenario 1 goku didnt use god ki when he fought frost. frost lose this battle spite thread the saiyans stomp spite thread

Scenario 2 if goku did use god ki frost wins this spite thread frost stomp spite thread

@lettsplay10 said:

@jplaya2023

Base god goku can solo gt

@w0nd:

SS4 goku in an epic clash.

A full powered KHH can possibly destroy frost.

Is it because it says "perhaps stronger than ss4" that it makes it sound like the difference isn't all that great?

I took that as unknown, he was never challenged in the show...everything about him is speculation still....

@lettsplay10 said:

@w0nd:

weird that they can say that years before ss4 even existed no?

Goku destroys

@zr0c00l said:

@lettsplay10 said:

@w0nd:

weird that they can say that years before ss4 even existed no?

I'm pretty sure that was from one of the gt guidebooks.

ssj4 goku dragon saga>>17 saga ssj4 goku>>>>>ssj4baby saga>>>>super baby vegeta 2>>>>super baby vegeta 1>super vegito>>>>>>>>>>>>frost

Don't think Goku was using God ki at all, so SSJ4 one shots with ease.

Let's power scale!

Gt

Limits surpassed SSJ4 Goku is at least 5,000 - 40,000 x SSJ3 Goku from Z

Super

Final form Frost is at least equal to base Goku in power which makes him around 56.5 - 7232 x SSJ3 Goku

Note: These are not facts, but i think my scaling is decent

Frost throws glass at him

@le0nhart:

My scaling puts SS4 goku (Beyond limits) at about 2x stronger than frost

Also, he's not 5000x of SS3 goku.

SSJ4 Goku should win.

How did you scale it?

see my power levels thread. Everything is explained in detail there.