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#1 Posted by comicvinepoozer1 (6236 posts) - - Show Bio

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I’d say due to his Abilities people like Deidara, Kisame, or the Mizukage

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#2 Posted by Malzahaar (1001 posts) - - Show Bio
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#3 Posted by deactivated-5bb52f8f25413 (7026 posts) - - Show Bio

No way he's beating Kisame, his chakra is way too much for Clark.

OT: I have no idea. Probably someone like Rock Lee? Idk.

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#4 Posted by Xy (964 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd say that Supes couldn't beat Kimimaro if not for his flight advantage.

So he probably stops around start of Shippuden Sasuke. Or any of the Akatsuki.

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#5 Posted by Lan_Fan (12038 posts) - - Show Bio

He clears of course, statues can't fight back...

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#6 Posted by omriamar (7068 posts) - - Show Bio

statues

statues

statues

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#7 Edited by HitTheAssasin (7330 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, Kakashi beats him. Statues can't fight back after all. God it feels good to use this line against Superman for once...

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#8 Posted by Malzahaar (1001 posts) - - Show Bio

@lan_fan: @omriamar: Yep Statues can't fight back so part 1 Kakashi puts a Rakiri through Clark's heart before Clark has a chance to even think.

It's nice to see a thread everyone agrees one.

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#9 Posted by Lan_Fan (12038 posts) - - Show Bio

@malzahaar: If you think we were serious, then you gotta be tripping.

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#10 Posted by Malzahaar (1001 posts) - - Show Bio

@lan_fan: You can't take anything the DCEU fandom says as serious/jokingly it's just that bad.

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#11 Posted by comicvinepoozer1 (6236 posts) - - Show Bio

@malzahaar: explain? Deidara is debatable. Mizukage I don’t remember much so you might be right. Kisame isn’t really.

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#12 Edited by Malzahaar (1001 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicvinepoozer1: Deidara is faster and has microscopic bombs Clark has zero counter for.

Kisame took an Island level attack and didn't die not to mention he can match 6th gate guy.

Lastly she's a Kage, who lasted against Madara who points a finger and Solo's the DCEU.

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#13 Posted by Rabii99 (845 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicvinepoozer1: He can't beat Deidara, not in a million years, Dediara who was fighting Sasuke who can summon aoda Use genjutsu on it and hide in it before a Hyperonic explosion reaches him so yeah Deidara stomps Superman+Justice league due to superior speed.

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#14 Posted by grappolo (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

He could beat the low mid-tiers, most of them have crap durability.

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#15 Posted by grappolo (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

@xy: Any of the akatsuki? How in the world fodders like sasori or hidan are going to beat him?

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#16 Posted by Supermanforever (7157 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, Kakashi beats him. Statues can't fight back after all. God it feels good to use this line against Superman for once...

lol..

I think he would stop on zabuza level characters or so maybe low tier kage like chojuro would be his limit.

Its hard to say, because there are low tiers with good counters against him and there are high tiers with no good counter against him.

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#17 Posted by comicvinepoozer1 (6236 posts) - - Show Bio

@malzahaar: Deidara isn’t faster. Especially if he tries running away from Superman on his Bird. Superman’s flying speed would catch Deidara instantly

Superman’s super senses are a perfect counter for micro bombs. That is, if he is even hurt by them tbh. Although I’m not willing to debate they couldn’t.

Kisame has been hurt by far less than an “island level” attack and he never matched 6th Gate Guy. In fact he got his ass whooped by 6th gate.

Mizukage status has nothing to do with whether or not she’d beat Kal. And she lasted against a weaker (Edo isn’t as strong as alive) Madara ONLY because of the other Kage. In fact iirc she was doing poorly the entire fight. She doesn’t have the physical strength to beat him. And her trying to boil or burn him isn’t going to work either

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#18 Posted by Gaoron (7398 posts) - - Show Bio

He can possibly beat KM1 Naruto if he doesn't abuse clones. That's a max.

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#19 Posted by Rabii99 (845 posts) - - Show Bio

@gaoron: He wouldn't even beat Orochimaru, Deidara or Kakuzu so how is he gonna beat KM1 Naruto?

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#20 Posted by Malzahaar (1001 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicvinepoozer1: he's faster in travel speed that's it, Dediera has him beat in combat speed.

Kisame only got his "ass" beat by 7th gate, and he also put Bee through hell another person who destroys Clark.

Clark isn't getting to Shippuden he loses to KM1 Naruto and CM2 Sasuke.

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#21 Posted by comicvinepoozer1 (6236 posts) - - Show Bio

@malzahaar:

1. Deidara has little to no Combat speed feats. Don’t bring up Sasuke because Deidara stared several times in that fight that Sasuke was faster, and he never went CQC with Sasuke. He only dodged a Sasuke running towards him which was telegraphed and Sasuke wasn’t trying to kill him, just get info

2. You’re right. I was thinking of the other time they fought. And saying he put B through hell means nothing because of the context. Bee was getting his chakra drained fighting him and when he finally got 1 hit in he severely injured Kisame.

3. Not even going to touch that one

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#22 Posted by Malzahaar (1001 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicvinepoozer1:

He reacted to faster

I know I am.

Well you're not supposed to debate on your own thread so carry on.

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#23 Posted by americanspeeddemon (6813 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe Hidan?

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#24 Posted by Noone1996 (10467 posts) - - Show Bio

I really don't see him making it past part 1 threats. Early Shippuden he stops hard.

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#25 Posted by comicvinepoozer1 (6236 posts) - - Show Bio

@malzahaar:

Like? And I said he had no combat speed feats. Saying he’s reacted to faster doesn’t really mean that much. Superman is faster than Deidara.

So you just ignored everything I said because you had no rebuttal but replied I know I’m right. Ironic.

Not the same thing. I didn’t make a versus thread so I can debate who he’d win and lose against to all I want.

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#26 Posted by Lan_Fan (12038 posts) - - Show Bio

@malzahaar: Then the fandom you met straight up trolled you lol

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#27 Posted by comicvinepoozer1 (6236 posts) - - Show Bio

@rabii99: that’s ignoring context tbh. Sasuke was so much faster than Deidara it wasn’t funny. Only reason the fight lasted as long as it did was because Deidara was outside of Sasukes range. Something Kal doesn’t have to worry about.

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#28 Posted by FullMetalEmprah (2991 posts) - - Show Bio

Four tails Naruto is the absolute highest I put him.

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#29 Posted by comicvinepoozer1 (6236 posts) - - Show Bio

@noone1996: I wouldn’t say he stops hard at early shippuden. Early Part 2 is people like Hidan and Sasori. And there isn’t much people from Part 1 he couldn’t beat. And the ones that can beat him are Part 2 threats like Sannin and Itachi

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#30 Edited by Noone1996 (10467 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicvinepoozer1: Part 1 includes Sannin, Hokage, Jonin (like Kakashi, Kurenai, Asuma, Kabuto, and Guy), Kimimaro, Gaara (who by the end was creating forest/small ocean levels of sand), Itachi, Kisame, Gamabunta, Shukaku, etc. Not sure if a single character I mentioned there would get stomped or even defeated.

Early part 2 includes Kakashi with kamui, Deidara, Gaara (who can now control an entire desert on a city scale), Kakuzu, Naruto with the rasenshuriken (and with three-four tails chakra mode), and honestly I don't see what's with the hate on Sasori. He's got poison gas, an army that's capable of taking over a country (although yes I know they are fodder), and he's got his Kazekage puppet that's basically got the same powers as Gaara. Superman would probably beat him, but I don't think it'd be that easy. I still stand by my statement that early Shippuden would stomp. The first action sequences included Kakashi with the bell scene and while that was happening Deidara was nuking the sand village.

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#31 Posted by comicvinepoozer1 (6236 posts) - - Show Bio

@noone1996: most of the people you mentioned are Kage level. And the ones that aren’t would get beaten by Superman easily like Asuma and Kabuto (Kurenai would win because of Genjutsu probably)

Kakashi would beat Superman but if we go by only his part 1 feats he should lose to Kal. Butttttt there’s no evidence that besides his MS, Kakashi has gotten any stronger. Meaning Part 2 Kakashi = Part 1 Kakashi so he’d beat Kal. Young Gaara has no way to really put Superman down. Superman beats everyone in Part 1 except for those that are strong enough to be powerful even in Shipudden.

It’s like me saying someone would only be East Blue Saga level because of Mihawk. Overall Part 1 is a cakewalk for Superman and in Part 2, Superman would be decent. Stronger than most Jonin but weaker than most Kage level threats.

P.S. Sasori would go down hard against Superman. Not necessarily a stomp, but not a good fight.

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#32 Posted by Noone1996 (10467 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicvinepoozer1: That's still a lot of characters in part 1 that would stop Superman. Kabuto was stated to be Kakashi tiered and his medical jutsu could probably work on Superman's muscles and nerves. Gaara would definitely have trouble putting him down, but I'm pretty sure an entire desert would give him a lot of issues and I fail to see Superman breaking through his sand defense without a lot of strain. Even if we assume that the Naruto series ended after part 1 and we only use the feats of the Jonin and S-rank characters, those feats enough would still be enough for him to stop there.

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#33 Posted by comicvinepoozer1 (6236 posts) - - Show Bio

@noone1996: I’ll explain myself better real quick

Superman isn’t stopping at Part 1. There are only a select few people that can beat him. And the ones that can are Kage level and belong in Part 2.

Sannin, Itachi, Sarutobi, And Kakashi. 6 people off the top of my head. Superman is stronger than 90% of the people in Part 1 so he’d bump up to Part 2. Superman is elite jonin level so he has no place in Part 1.

Think of it like this. If you add Superman into most fights in Part 1 and early Part 2 he’d slaughter.

Vs Zabuza and Haku

He’d soundly beat everyone during the Chunim exams

Sound 4 except Tayuya with Genjutsu

Vs Sasori

Vs Hidan and Kakazu

He’d beat most of the Konoha 12 even in part 2

He’d beat almost anyone that’s not Kage level.

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#34 Posted by FaradaySloth (5320 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe somebody like Sasori

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#35 Posted by Gaoron (7398 posts) - - Show Bio

@rabii99: All the people you mentioned would stomp KM1 Naruto

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#36 Posted by Rabii99 (845 posts) - - Show Bio

@gaoron: Orochimaru,Deidara, Kakuzu stomp KCM1 Naruto? CM2 Sasuke stalemated Deidara,4 tailed Naruto was edging out Oro(without his hands), a Rasenshuriken fucked up Kakuzu.

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#37 Posted by Malzahaar (1001 posts) - - Show Bio

He's still not getting past part 1.

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#38 Posted by Gaoron (7398 posts) - - Show Bio

@rabii99 said:

@gaoron: Orochimaru,Deidara, Kakuzu stomp KCM1 Naruto? CM2 Sasuke stalemated Deidara,4 tailed Naruto was edging out Oro(without his hands), a Rasenshuriken fucked up Kakuzu.

I think we are not talking about the same forms lol

By KM1 I mean 1 tailed Naruto from first Naruto vs Sasuke not KCM

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#39 Posted by Rabii99 (845 posts) - - Show Bio

@gaoron: Yeah sorry my bad.I thought KM1 Naruto is KCM1 Naruto, either way Naruto stomps, KM1 naruto is faster than CM2 Sasuke who in base form was supersonic and Curse Mark 2 is 10 times boost over base so CM2 Sasuke should be around mach 10.

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#40 Posted by Malzahaar (1001 posts) - - Show Bio

@rabii99: Base Sasuke is hypersonic so at least mach 5. Also CM1 is a x10 boost so CM2 would be x20.

But Sasuke has no feats on that level.

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#41 Edited by Rabii99 (845 posts) - - Show Bio

@malzahaar: AFAIR CM2 is 10 times boost over base not CM1, Base Sasuke can blitz Gaara throught his sand which can react to explosions so if we downplay Part 1 Sasuke then he is mach 1 in base and mach 10 in CM2.

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#42 Posted by Malzahaar (1001 posts) - - Show Bio

@rabii99: Yes Explosion's are hyperaonic which starts at mach 5 meaning mach 5 is Sasukes base, and CM1 was 10x not CM2.

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#43 Posted by Malzahaar (1001 posts) - - Show Bio

@rabii99: You're right it's 10x I'm sorry, So mach 5x10 is Sasukes CM2 speed.

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#44 Edited by Rabii99 (845 posts) - - Show Bio

@malzahaar: Yeah, Part 1 Sasuke was a beast and KM1 naruto is comparable to him so there's no way Supes or DCEU justice league can keep up or beat either of them.

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#45 Posted by KingZod (3659 posts) - - Show Bio

Should die anywhere past early part 2

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#46 Posted by comicvinepoozer1 (6236 posts) - - Show Bio

Mach 50 Sasuke and Naruto....... Lol

Regardless Superman’s reactions were stated to be equal to his flying speed. So still faster than Part 1 Naruto and Sasuke

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#47 Posted by comicvinepoozer1 (6236 posts) - - Show Bio

@rabii99: what exactly has part 1 Naruto or Sasuke done to say they’d beat Superman?

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#48 Posted by GXrevs06 (3835 posts) - - Show Bio

Momoshiki, easily. May have issues with Kaguya though due to hax but could potentially blitz her before she pulls those off

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