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#1 Posted by FaradaySloth (8533 posts) - - Show Bio

So as we see, Sinner pretty much is the strongest Demon in NNT, and we're about to see him fight the whole Seven Deadly Sins+Mael/Elizabeth so anyone knows what HST Character he can beat.

Round 1) Bleach

Round 2) Naruto

Round 3) One Piece

Round 4) All together.

I'll try to bump this with every new chapter comes out for Sinner.

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#2 Posted by Emanresu_20 (2731 posts) - - Show Bio

Not getting into this bit feats include Overpowering Merlin and No Selling and one shifting The One Escanor.

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#3 Posted by Yox (349 posts) - - Show Bio
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#4 Posted by deactivated-5c60dc252a2af (5801 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll wait until we get to see more of him but I feel like Mael would get his sunshine back soon and shit on him from the pattern of the series.

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#5 Posted by Emanresu_20 (2731 posts) - - Show Bio

@yox:

He explicitly said even at your peak at high noon you’re no match for me...

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#6 Posted by WorldofRuin6 (2595 posts) - - Show Bio

He needs more feats as of now, but manhandling THE ONE is pretty impressive.

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#7 Posted by AlexTheBoss (16990 posts) - - Show Bio

@emanresu_20: @worldofruin6: It could have been a translation thing, where he actually meant his power near noon, but he didn't visually look like The One.

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#8 Posted by AlexTheBoss (16990 posts) - - Show Bio

Based off of what we've seen so far and conservative scaling.

Round 1) Bleach

He should beat pretty much everyone but Yhwach.

Round 2) Naruto

He can beat everyone before Juubito, so I guess sage mode Madara wit the rinnegan would be the strongest.

Round 3) One Piece

He can beat everyone.

Round 4) All together.

Scaling wise EOS Ichigo might be the strongest, but others like Aizen or Madara might actually give him more trouble due to being more skilled with a better move set.

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#9 Edited by Emanresu_20 (2731 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss:

“Even at your peak at high noon this is all you got”

Doesn’t get much clearer than that.

The only change to Escanor when he becomes The One is that he gets larger. Other than that he’s exactly the same.

It could just be an inconsistent design.

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#10 Edited by LeoTheGreatest (4270 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow King seems to be the strongest Sin currently.

OT:

R1: Stops at top tier captains like Byakuya, Adult Toshiro and Kenpachi.

R2: Stops at SO6P Naruto and Sasuke.

R3: Currently clears.

R4: Don’t really get what you’re going for here @faradaysloth

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#11 Posted by AlexTheBoss (16990 posts) - - Show Bio

@emanresu_20: There is no way less than a minute has passed since he was last in the one form, not to mention these are fan translations. Escanor when near noon is at his peak, but only when it's exactly 12:00 for one minute, is he in the one form. Yes, the statement makes it sound like he is in the one, but visually and story wise it makes no sense.

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#12 Edited by WorldofRuin6 (2595 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss: IDK. You could see the flames along his outfit that insinuate THE ONE is in use.

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#13 Posted by FaradaySloth (8533 posts) - - Show Bio

@leothegreatest: Out of everyone in the HST, who is the strongest he can beat.

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#14 Edited by LeoTheGreatest (4270 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth:

You‘d have to make a hierarchy for that in which case

One piece(for now) < Sinner < Naruto godteirs < bleach highteirs < bleach God teirs.

So anyone in OP (for now) and Naruto highteirs like Hashirama and Rinnengan Madara maybe and maybe even a low godteir like Juubito.

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#15 Posted by UltimateSage (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

^^^^^^ That was fun to read:)

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#16 Posted by deactivated-5c60dc252a2af (5801 posts) - - Show Bio

@ultimatesage: Ignore him. The actual non delusional fanboy version of that chart would be,

One Piece High tiers< Naruto High tiers<=> Bleach High tiers< The Sinner< Bleach God tiers< Naruto God tiers.

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#17 Posted by UltimateSage (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

@b_r023: I know:)

He is probably friends with the one guy who thinks rukia is mach 6,000,000 and that 100% kurama is the same size as the 50% one.

Yup all that is true and he was serious(think his name is udre or under, one of those)

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#18 Edited by GrandTOAA (850 posts) - - Show Bio

Mehn, The One's hype got pegged down a notch. Guess Meliodas and Mael are indeed stronger than him

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#19 Posted by deactivated-5c60dc252a2af (5801 posts) - - Show Bio

@ultimatesage: Yea probably. He once claimed that Las Noches was star sized or maybe it was the other one, the balance or something. I dunno, there are far too many trolls these days.

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#20 Posted by TheEmperor95 (1278 posts) - - Show Bio

@b_r023: I agree with your chart for the most except I'd have it like this.

OP high tiers<naruto high tiers<bleach high tiers<=the sinner<bleach God tiers<naruto God tiers<yhwach<complete soul king

Complete soul king is hypothetical of course but would be stupid overpowered

Lmao at star sized Las neches that doesn't make any sense

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#21 Edited by LeoTheGreatest (4270 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah definitely listen to the troll who constantly shows his pathetic bias against bleach in every single thread he’s on “ArROw lEVel yHwAch“ “WEakChigo” do me a favor @b_r023 and stfu.

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#22 Edited by deactivated-5c60dc252a2af (5801 posts) - - Show Bio

@theemperor95: Yea, that can work too. SK is hypothetical indeed.

The argument made was something like that Ichigo is Lightning speed and it took him three days or shit thus LN is Star sized or some bs along those lines.

The dear delusional fanboy claimed Ichigo is a light speed multi-planet buster to me. I don't have the screenshots anymore, Jovio might still have them.

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#23 Posted by ElderElijah190 (2033 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at ywach in bleach.

Stops or stalement juubito in naruto.

Beats everyone in one piece.

I don't get the all together statement at 4 sadly.

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#24 Posted by TheEmperor95 (1278 posts) - - Show Bio

@b_r023: SK theoretically would have the compulsory, the miracle, the almighty, hoffung, stagnation ability and the visionary according to the novels. Makes me wonder how he ever got sealed away in the first place.

Lmao how could I forget that 1 swing from ichigo crack planets

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#25 Edited by deactivated-5c60dc252a2af (5801 posts) - - Show Bio

@theemperor95: I don't take novels as canon,

A:) There is no official translation.

B:) No one on CV has given a source to the official translation. Only quotes, not even a fan translation.

C:) Example: Going by fan translation novels, Momoshiki absorbed like a galaxy or some shit or maybe a star yet lost to a Rasengan.

Novels are no canon unless it is an official translation or directly stated by Kubo to be canon.

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#26 Edited by TheEmperor95 (1278 posts) - - Show Bio

@b_r023: http://missstormcaller.tumblr.com/CFYOW

There's where I read any translations.

True novels aren't always the most exact piece of material. However Cant fear your own world seems pretty canon so far. I'd have to do more research to see if it's actually approved canon

Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/bleach/comments/a5uxvm/is_cant_fear_your_own_world_canon/

Not sure if that helps you decide its authenticity

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#28 Posted by FaradaySloth (8533 posts) - - Show Bio

Major Bump. New Chapter. New Magical Ability. "Crisis"

Seems pretty OP.

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#30 Posted by SkySanji (4582 posts) - - Show Bio

If you can't oneshot Sinner gets stronger

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#31 Edited by UltimateSage (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

Based off of what we've seen so far as feats go.

Round 1) Bleach

He should beat pretty much everyone but Yhwach.

Round 2) Naruto

He can beat everyone before Juubito, so I guess sage mode Madara with the rinnegan/or sage mode hashirama would be the strongest.

Round 3) One Piece

He can beat everyone.

Round 4) All together.

I don't understand.😢

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#32 Posted by DemonGod_PABLO (1587 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol at him getting to yhwach. Lille shits on him and so does Gerard. toshiro can flash freeze if he gets to start in adult form

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#33 Posted by TheEmperor95 (1278 posts) - - Show Bio

@manimalman: gremmy was stated to be the brain of the soul king in the latest novel. That would also fit what the soul king powers should be

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#34 Edited by kroczilla (1811 posts) - - Show Bio

Bleach; gets merked by Lille, Gerard, [possibly] perninda, gremmy, Urahara, ichibei, adult Toshiro, the OP fullbringer from the CFYOW novel (can't remember her name) etc. Definitely isn't getting to ywach

One piece; Not sure how he beats kizaru

Naruto; Just about any person who got a so6p chakra power up.

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#35 Edited by Wanderez (1467 posts) - - Show Bio

Lmao, did i just read sinner stops at Yhwach? Ichibei stomps, Lille stomps, Gerard stomps, non-jobbing Gremmy stomps, Aizen stomps, Bankai Shinji stomps, adult Toshiro stomps, Bankai Shunsui stomps. Tokinada from the novel stomps too due to his ability to use other Bankai at the same time.

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#36 Posted by Lordflawlez (1288 posts) - - Show Bio

@leothegreatest:

Jesus christ

You actually think bleach is a more powerful verse than Naruto? Omg

I knew it, I knew you had to be a serious fan boy to imply dangai Ichigo or monster aizen can solo mael.

Never knew your fanboysm was way beyond that and even cut across to Naruto verse

Thanks for letting me know not to take you seriously

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#37 Edited by Lordflawlez (1288 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at ywach till we see more

Clears one piece

Stops at Naruto God tier

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#38 Edited by LeoTheGreatest (4270 posts) - - Show Bio

> Talks about fanboyism

> Says the sinner makes it up to Yhwach in bleach “till we see more”

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#39 Posted by EcoBlitz (4601 posts) - - Show Bio

He’s not a fanboy but remember guys, byakuya, adult toshiro and kenpachi are on the level of So6p madara. Lol. Lmao. This man never ceases to entertain with wank

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#40 Posted by EcoBlitz (4601 posts) - - Show Bio

@lordflawlez: he probably think ichigo is ftl and planet-multi planet level

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#41 Posted by LeoTheGreatest (4270 posts) - - Show Bio

Shit tier bait tbh.

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#42 Posted by ourmanuel (10551 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth:

You‘d have to make a hierarchy for that in which case

One piece(for now) < Sinner < Naruto godteirs < bleach highteirs < bleach God teirs.

I have to say Leo, this is truly:

Shit tier bait tbh.

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#43 Edited by Kayc (577 posts) - - Show Bio

The sinner, provided he possesses both Chandler and Cusack's abilities;

Bleach: can't defeat Yhwach, Lille, the fat monk, The Miracle Man, Gremmy, Aizen, Yamamoto and possibly Adult Toshiro.

Naruto: Juubito, DMS Kakashi, Kaguya, Naruto, Sasuke, Toneri, Momoshiki, Hagoromo, Hamura, 8 gates Gai, Madara and hypothetical Jigen.

One Piece: outhaxes one piece.

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#44 Posted by LeoTheGreatest (4270 posts) - - Show Bio

@ourmanuel said:

@leothegreatest said:

@faradaysloth:

You‘d have to make a hierarchy for that in which case

One piece(for now) < Sinner < Naruto godteirs < bleach highteirs < bleach God teirs.

I have to say Leo, this is truly:

@leothegreatest said:

Shit tier bait tbh.

On CV? Sure.

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#45 Posted by deactivated-5c531dce659a2 (1106 posts) - - Show Bio
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#46 Posted by Helloman (28585 posts) - - Show Bio

Yhwach.

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#48 Posted by LeoTheGreatest (4270 posts) - - Show Bio

@ourmanuel:

Any site that holds both series in the same regard.

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#49 Posted by deactivated-5c531dce659a2 (1106 posts) - - Show Bio

@leothegreatest: I have accounts on multiple sites and aside from Yhwach Naruto is seen as stronger.

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#50 Posted by LeoTheGreatest (4270 posts) - - Show Bio

@vummax:

How am i supposed to validate that claim?

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