Strongest form of Naruto and Sasuke that this team could take down?

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#101  Edited By Thenewguysnm1

@linglung said:
@raziel2014 said:

Team takes this no effort, Yusuke, ichigo, Natsu, Luffy,Meliodas, naruto andsasuke get rekt badly.

but everyone knows no one beats narutotards so naruto team wins because is naruto

and that is coming from someone (raziel2014) who said Fodder shinobi can defeat Pains ((except deva)), when by FEATS.. even Naraka stomps 3 jonins without trying..

OT: BSM naruto and EMS sasuke

tbh,, BSM naruto can make 1000 clones,, but whatever...

Show me BSM naruto make 1K clones

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They dont beat EMS sasuke and BSM Naruto. They could withstand juubis attacks no problem. They are extremely fast and versatile could also make Kyuubisusanoo

They never start with i.It also would not work as TBB get full countered.

IC they start off with Cqc sasuke would die if swapped fists with Luffy and mel would beat Naruto the rest make a shit stomp

I surprised you would say that tbh

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#103  Edited By linglung

@thenewguysnm1 said:
@linglung said:
@raziel2014 said:

Team takes this no effort, Yusuke, ichigo, Natsu, Luffy,Meliodas, naruto andsasuke get rekt badly.

but everyone knows no one beats narutotards so naruto team wins because is naruto

and that is coming from someone (raziel2014) who said Fodder shinobi can defeat Pains ((except deva)), when by FEATS.. even Naraka stomps 3 jonins without trying..

OT: BSM naruto and EMS sasuke

tbh,, BSM naruto can make 1000 clones,, but whatever...

Show me BSM naruto make 1K clones

Funny,, because it's like saying

  • show me when shukaku using Bijuu dama,, (when Bijuu dama is all bijuu attack))
  • or it's like saying show me when Madara uses Deva path attack ((when Rinnegan was his Original Eyes and Nagato is only Fake User)),,
  • or it's like saying show me when 1st Mizukage uses WATER JUTSU,, ((because we never see it))
  • or it's like saying show me when Kaguya or Hagoromo uses All Nagato's Rinnegan jutsu
  • or it's like saying show me when White Fang ((kakashi Father)) when he used Taijutsu or Ninjutsu,, because we never see it..
  • or it's like saying show me when sasuke used Deva path
  • or it's like saying show me when Fugaku uses Katon,, or Genjutsu sharingan or maybe amaterasu or tsukoyomi or susanoo???? because we never see it

oh.. comeone man,, you are one of the few debater that I respect,, DID you actually ask this question????

seriously?? oh.. bro

when by feats...

  • Kid naruto make 1000 clones ((chapter 1))
  • Kid naruto make more than 1000 clones ((naruto vs Gaara))
  • Kn0 naruto make 1000 clones ((Kn0 vs Kimimaro))
  • Shippuden Naruto make bunshin as much as the number of leaves in a tree ((and a tree have 30.000 leaves atleast))
  • in war arc,, 1 bunshin of naruto also can make 100 bunshin,, yeah bunshin summon another bunshin..
  • BM naruto give his chakra to atleast 35.000 shinobi using Bunshin logic ((stated by Tobirama)),, and BSM naruto chakra >>> BM naruto chakra
  • So6P naruto can make 1000 bunshin to fight against kaguya..

so,, if Weaker Version of Naruto can make 1000 bunshin, or more because Shippuden Naruto make bunshin as much as the number of leaves in a tree ((and a tree have 30.000 leaves atleast))

soo... what make you think Stronger version of naruto can not??? because Kid naruto,, Kn0 naruto,, shippuden naruto,, BM naruto and So6P naruto can make 1000 bunshin..

but why not BSM???

My answer: because at that time,, BSM naruto fight against Juubito while protect his friends,, remember when Shikamaru almost Die,, BSM naruto used his chakra to help shikamaru,, thats why he can't used bunshin in BSM...

thats my answer..

and sorry for my bad eng

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@linglung said:
@thenewguysnm1 said:
@linglung said:
@raziel2014 said:

Team takes this no effort, Yusuke, ichigo, Natsu, Luffy,Meliodas, naruto andsasuke get rekt badly.

but everyone knows no one beats narutotards so naruto team wins because is naruto

and that is coming from someone (raziel2014) who said Fodder shinobi can defeat Pains ((except deva)), when by FEATS.. even Naraka stomps 3 jonins without trying..

OT: BSM naruto and EMS sasuke

tbh,, BSM naruto can make 1000 clones,, but whatever...

Show me BSM naruto make 1K clones

Funny,, because it's like saying

  • show me when shukaku using Bijuu dama,, (when Bijuu dama is all bijuu attack))
  • or it's like saying show me when Madara uses Deva path attack ((when Rinnegan was his Original Eyes and Nagato is only Fake User)),,
  • or it's like saying show me when 1st Mizukage uses WATER JUTSU,, ((because we never see it))
  • or it's like saying show me when Kaguya or Hagoromo uses All Nagato's Rinnegan jutsu
  • or it's like saying show me when White Fang ((kakashi Father)) when he used Taijutsu or Ninjutsu,, because we never see it..
  • or it's like saying show me when sasuke used Deva path
  • or it's like saying show me when Fugaku uses Katon,, or Genjutsu sharingan or maybe amaterasu or tsukoyomi or susanoo???? because we never see it

oh.. comeone man,, you are one of the few debater that I respect,, DID you actually ask this question????

seriously?? oh.. bro

when by feats...

  • Kid naruto make 1000 clones ((chapter 1))
  • Kid naruto make more than 100 clones ((naruto vs Gaara))
  • Kn0 naruto make 1000 clones ((Kn0 vs Kimimaro))
  • Shippuden Naruto make bunshin as much as the number of leaves in a tree ((and a tree have 30.000 leaves atleast))
  • in war arc,, 1 bunshin of naruto also can make 100 bunshin,, yeah bunshin summon another bunshin..
  • BM naruto give his chakra to atleast 35.000 shinobi using Bunshin logic ((stated by Tobirama)),, and BSM naruto chakra >>> BM naruto chakra
  • So6P naruto can make 1000 bunshin to fight against kaguya..

so,, if Weaker Version of Naruto can make 1000 bunshin,, what make you think Stronger version of naruto can not??? because Kid naruto,, Kn0 naruto,, shippuden naruto,, BM naruto and So6P naruto can make 1000 bunshin..

but why not BSM???

My answer: because at that time,, BSM naruto fight against Juubito while protect his friends,, remember when Shikamaru almost Die,, BSM naruto used his chakra to help shikamaru,, thats why he can't used bunshin in BSM...

thats my answer..

and sorry for my bad eng

Firstly you do not have to apologize for your english its not that bad.

Bsm Naruto has never done it so he will not do it in character just putting that out there

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#105  Edited By linglung

@thenewguysnm1 said:
@linglung said:
@thenewguysnm1 said:
@linglung said:
@raziel2014 said:

Team takes this no effort, Yusuke, ichigo, Natsu, Luffy,Meliodas, naruto andsasuke get rekt badly.

but everyone knows no one beats narutotards so naruto team wins because is naruto

and that is coming from someone (raziel2014) who said Fodder shinobi can defeat Pains ((except deva)), when by FEATS.. even Naraka stomps 3 jonins without trying..

OT: BSM naruto and EMS sasuke

tbh,, BSM naruto can make 1000 clones,, but whatever...

Show me BSM naruto make 1K clones

Funny,, because it's like saying

  • show me when shukaku using Bijuu dama,, (when Bijuu dama is all bijuu attack))
  • or it's like saying show me when Madara uses Deva path attack ((when Rinnegan was his Original Eyes and Nagato is only Fake User)),,
  • or it's like saying show me when 1st Mizukage uses WATER JUTSU,, ((because we never see it))
  • or it's like saying show me when Kaguya or Hagoromo uses All Nagato's Rinnegan jutsu
  • or it's like saying show me when White Fang ((kakashi Father)) when he used Taijutsu or Ninjutsu,, because we never see it..
  • or it's like saying show me when sasuke used Deva path
  • or it's like saying show me when Fugaku uses Katon,, or Genjutsu sharingan or maybe amaterasu or tsukoyomi or susanoo???? because we never see it

oh.. comeone man,, you are one of the few debater that I respect,, DID you actually ask this question????

seriously?? oh.. bro

when by feats...

  • Kid naruto make 1000 clones ((chapter 1))
  • Kid naruto make more than 100 clones ((naruto vs Gaara))
  • Kn0 naruto make 1000 clones ((Kn0 vs Kimimaro))
  • Shippuden Naruto make bunshin as much as the number of leaves in a tree ((and a tree have 30.000 leaves atleast))
  • in war arc,, 1 bunshin of naruto also can make 100 bunshin,, yeah bunshin summon another bunshin..
  • BM naruto give his chakra to atleast 35.000 shinobi using Bunshin logic ((stated by Tobirama)),, and BSM naruto chakra >>> BM naruto chakra
  • So6P naruto can make 1000 bunshin to fight against kaguya..

so,, if Weaker Version of Naruto can make 1000 bunshin,, what make you think Stronger version of naruto can not??? because Kid naruto,, Kn0 naruto,, shippuden naruto,, BM naruto and So6P naruto can make 1000 bunshin..

but why not BSM???

My answer: because at that time,, BSM naruto fight against Juubito while protect his friends,, remember when Shikamaru almost Die,, BSM naruto used his chakra to help shikamaru,, thats why he can't used bunshin in BSM...

thats my answer..

and sorry for my bad eng

Firstly you do not have to apologize for your english its not that bad.

Bsm Naruto has never done it so he will not do it in character just putting that out there

so,, BSM naruto can not uses A NORMAL Rasengan????? because we never see it??

while BM can use rasengan???

BRO.. comeone,, like what i've said,, you are one of the few debater that I respect,, DID you actually ask this question????

Bunshin is identical naruto attack,, since part 1

Remember when i said,,

  • Shippuden Naruto make bunshin as much as the number of leaves in a tree ((and a tree have 30.000 leaves atleast))
  • DID you know,, BM naruto sharing his chakra to 35.000 shinobi atleast???
  • not different at all right??

by this feats alone i can say,, Shippuden naruto and BM naruto can make 30.000 clones,, and suddently BSM can not??? when BSM chakra >>> BM chakra >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shippuden naruto chakra

like what i've said,, BSM naruto don't make a clone to fight Juubito because

  • he protect his friends or all shinobi while fight,, ((remember shikamaru and fodder shinobi which he gave his chakra??))
  • he must use a combination attack with Sasuke..

by feats we see Part 1 naruto use rasengan,, shippuden naruto use rasengan,, SM naruto use rasengan,, KCM naruto use rasengan,, BM naruto use rasengan ((bye bye obito's mask)),, So6P naruto use rasengan... but we never see BSM naruto use it,, so by your logic,, BSM naruto can not use Rasengan??? BSM naruto can not use A NORMAL RASENGAN BECAUSE WE NEVER SEE IT???

comeone man...

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@linglung: Bm has used Rasengan what are you talking about.

Naruto can not make 1K clones using Kurama's chakra he couldnt in Kcm he couldn't in Bm and he cant in BSM show me the scan of him doing it or concede.

The rest is head cannon i go by on panel feats,also what does Rasengan have to do with it.

Final thing do you really think a guy who has not made 10 clones can make 30K that ridiculous show me the SCAN or concede

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#107  Edited By linglung

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@linglung: Bm has used Rasengan what are you talking about.

ahh.. yeah i also said that...

what i mean is BSM,, not BM

Naruto can not make 1K clones using Kurama's chakra

then why he can make 1000 clones while using KN0 mode??? and KN0 is kurama chakra,, ((Kn0 naruto vs Kimimaro))

he couldnt in Kcm

because at that time kurama will kill him,, kurama still not befriends with him

he couldn't in Bm

you sure??? this is all his naruto clone..,, 35.000 shinobi atleast

BM naruto clones...

No Caption Provided

remember,, he give his chakra to all shinobi, and he can control that chakra,, stated by tobirama naruto uses Kage Bunshin logic to used that...

and he cant in BSM

it's funny,, because Kurama chakra >1000> times bigger than naruto chakra,, but naruto cant make 1000 clone using kurama's chakra???

it's like saying Hokage Naruto can not make 1000 clones because we never see it..

show me the scan of him doing it or concede.

wow,, so hagoromo can't uses any Rinnegan ability???

OK... same like madara ((original user)) while nagato can???

or kaguya???

The rest is head cannon i go by on panel feats,also what does Rasengan have to do with it.

rasengan = 1000 bunshin,, naruto identical move...

Final thing do you really think a guy who has not made 10 clones can make 30K that ridiculous show me the SCAN or concede

No Caption Provided

so...

how many leaves on a tree??? you can see it on that link

and BM naruto share his chakra to 35.000 shinobi

you also can search it on google..

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@linglung: How is giving a unspecified amount of ninja a unspecified amount chakra a feat you are clutching at straws show me him doing it or concede

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@thenewguysnm1: Stop, you are embarrasing yourself. He already debunk you, if you dont agree then its your time to prove that he is wrong.

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@djoss said:

@thenewguysnm1: Stop, you are embarrasing yourself. He already debunk you, if you dont agree then its your time to prove that he is wrong.

Show me a fucking scan if not shut your mouth

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@thenewguysnm1: Why the hell are you asking a scan from me? Lol, he already show you its your time to prove that he is wrong drop the scan that say he cant to prove your point otherwise you are making him look like a fool.

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@linglung:

Don't you think,, the top of the mountain get destroyed by Gloxiana's attack before it explode

No, because absolutely nothing suggests that's the case.

Because...

please look at this scan,,

  • 1st scan: Gloxiana's attack hit meliodas and that attack also hit the top of a mountain

I don't know if you're reading the same scan I am, but all we see is Gloxinia's attack launching Mel away and exploding, nowhere is the top of the mountain destroyed.

  • 2nd scan,, we see that top of a mountain destroyed

Yep, which is from the shockwaves of Gloxinia's attacks, since they can also be felt from miles away.

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@hittheassasin:I am correct right

@djoss said:

@thenewguysnm1: Why the hell are you asking a scan from me? Lol, he already show you its your time to prove that he is wrong drop the scan that say he cant to prove your point otherwise you are making him look like a fool.

Show me the scan he showed all he does is use head cannon and scal poorly

Bsm naruto has never made 1k clones so even if we assumeh e can it is havily out of character so he wont use it

All in all he either cant or he wont its the same thing.

WTF does amping shinobi have to do with clones lol

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@thenewguysnm1:I am correct right

Eh, I'm not sure. Logically, BSM Naruto should be able to make 1000 clones if he so desired, but it wouldn't be very effective and launching an actual attack with all of them would take up a whole lot of chakra. Besides, there are several people in this thread that could just destroy them all in one fell swoop, such as Meliodas.

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@thenewguysnm1:

War arc bm naruto should be able to make 1000 bm clones since he's synergy with kurama wasn't perfect yet. But he should be able to make 1000 base clones while maintaining bm.

So6p naruto made thousands of clones and 6pkcm made a few hundred against toneri.

Generally the older naruto gets the less likely he is to spam clones unless he has a good reason to or wants to do an attack covers a large area.

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@thenewguysnm1:

War arc bm naruto should be able to make 1000 bm clones since he's synergy with kurama wasn't perfect yet. But he should be able to make 1000 base clones while maintaining bm.

So6p naruto made thousands of clones and 6pkcm made a few hundred against toneri.

Generally the older naruto gets the less likely he is to spam clones unless he has a good reason to or wants to do an attack covers a large area.

He could make alot of base clones but they would be fodder i just doubt he would/could in bsm

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@thenewguysnm1: its hard to say what war arc BSM naruto would do cause he was only in that form for like 10 minutes. Naruto's later forms likely can make thousands of full avatar clones though.

But agree that its not something we'd see from BSM.

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@linglung said:
@antonio_1996 said:
@hope_w said:
@antonio_1996 said:

I'm a Naruto fan, but there's simply no way KCM Naruto is winning against Assault Mode Meliodas. That's just absurd,

Cool, Im a fan as well. However your word means very little to manga scans and you thinking it's 'absurd' has just about no relevancy here if you can't prove otherwise. Cheers.

It is absurd and "manga scans" would agree too. KCM Naruto is not even mountain level and yet Meliodas with a power level of only 33k tanked Gloxinia's mountain level attack with no problem whatsoever. And yet you think KCM can even beat AM Mel? That's pure wank cause this form of Naruto doesn't have any chance of beating current Mel.

hmm...

but,, dont you think Gloxiana's attack was Multi Mountain level AOE,, and not Multi Mountain level DC??

because it's like saying Guy's Hirudora is Multi Island level DC attack ((3 times bigger than Turtle Island)), and yet couldn't kill kisame,, while KCM naruto's punch damage kisame badly..

when the truth is,, i believe Guy's hirudora is Multi Island level AOE with Multi Mountain+ to Island level DC

and it's like saying kisame tanked Multi Island level attack.. because he tanked Hirudora ((Multi Island level sized attack))

Just a question...

Uhm, no. LOL. We literally see it vaporize a mountain on panel and dwarf several mountains.

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This is clearly mountain level DC

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#119  Edited By linglung

@hittheassasin said:

No, because absolutely nothing suggests that's the case.

this scan..

Gloxiana's attack hit meliodas,, and also the top of the mountain..

No Caption Provided

I don't know if you're reading the same scan I am, but all we see is Gloxinia's attack launching Mel away and exploding, nowhere is the top of the mountain destroyed.

what i mean is,, Gloxiana's attack hit meliodas and also and the top of the mountain,,

do not you wonder why only the top of the mountain is destroyed?? why not full body of the mountain or why not part of the foot of the mountain???

my answer: because gloxiana's attack hit meliodas and also the top of the mountain... ((scan above)) and after that,, Gloxiana's attack explode...

Yep, which is from the shockwaves of Gloxinia's attacks, since they can also be felt from miles away.

for some reason,, i believe the top of the mountain destroyed because gloxiana's attack hit it after hit meliodas ((scan above))

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#120  Edited By linglung

@antonio_1996 said:

Uhm, no. LOL. We literally see it vaporize a mountain on panel and dwarf several mountains.

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This is clearly mountain level DC

ahh..

that's ANIME VERSION,, i don't uses anime version because everything is different in Anime

example: you can not see the top of the mountain destroyed while in manga you can see it,, NNT anime a bit different than manga

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@djoss said:

@thenewguysnm1: Stop, you are embarrasing yourself. He already debunk you, if you dont agree then its your time to prove that he is wrong.

i think you are talking about me ((or maybe not))

but if yes,, thanks..

IF not,, then.. im fine.. T_T

ohhh... my man,, comeone man...

Duuuuuhhhhh.. do we actually need to do this?? do we????

ok... please remember,, Kurama Chakra >>>100x bigger>>> than naruto chakra atleast,, and... by Naruto manga logic,, More chakra,, then your Jutsu become morestronger... example is Rasengan...

the same reason why Jiraiya can uses Chou Odama rasengan in Sage Mode,, but he can't use it in Base mode,, because SM jiraiya chakra >>> Base jiraiya chakra..

and we all know

  • Chapter 1 naruto can summon 1000 bunshin ((Naruto vs Mizuki))
  • Kid naruto can summon 1000 bunshin ((naruto vs Gaara))
  • KN0 Naruto (using kurama chakra) summon 1000 bunshin,, Naruto vs Kimimaro
  • Base Shippuden Naruto summons 30.000 bunshin atleast
  • KCSM naruto summon hundreds of bunshins ((Naruto vs Toneri))
  • BM naruto share his chakra to 35.000 shinobi atleast ((that shinobi become his bunshin,, stated by tobirama naruto uses clone logic or clone principle when he share his chakra))
  • So6P naruto??? don't you know the one who give So6p naruto a chakra to summon 1000 bunshin was Kurama..
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so,, Kurama is the only one reason why So6P naruto can make 1000 Bunshins,, so IF So6P naruto can make 1000 bunshin using Kurama's chakra, then what make you think BSM naruto ((Kurama Chakra + Senjutsu)) can not make 1000 Bunshins using kurama's chakra?? when KN0 naruto ((using kurama chakra)) can summon 1000 bunshin

Now,, time to answer your question... and this is your question

How is giving a unspecified amount of ninja a unspecified amount chakra a feat you are clutching at straws show me him doing it or concede

now,, time is my Answer:...

remember,, when naruto give All shinobi his chakra,, he is not only give that chakra as a shield to protect the shinobi but also to increase shinobi chakra / ability.. and also naruto still can control that chakra... same like he control his Bunshin..

  • Naruto give all Shinobi his chakra
  • Naruto can control that chakra,, means that chakra still part of him ((same like bushin))
  • stated by Tobirama when naruto give all shinobi his chakra he use Bunshin Logic or the principle of Bunshin
  • another Proof,, remember,, Everyone can hear Naruto's or Shikamaru's mind and they can feels naruto's or shikamaru's sadness,, thanks to Ino shintenshin no jutsu,, even ino said naruto's heart coming through my Jutsu,, that is because Ino ((who have Kyuubi Cloak)) was part of naruto bunshin.. thats why naruto's and shikamaru's heart can coming through Ino's Shintensin no Jutsu,, even IF Naruto or Shikamaru not touching Ino DIRECTlY

everyone feels Naruto's sadness through Ino's jutsu,, even IF naruto not touching Ino directly

same like shikamaru.. who not touching Ino's Directly,, but everyone can feels his heart through ino's jutsu

same like naruto who know his bunshin minds even if He is not speak directly with his Bunshin

or just like Bunshin of Hashirama who knows his Original Minds even If Bunshin of Hashirama doesnt speak directly to His Original

I already answer your question,, and Now,, this is My Question for You..

  • Hagoromo is Rinnegan user ((Original)),, Madara is Rinnegan user ((original)),, Sasuke is Rinnegan user ((original)),,
  • and both Madara's or Sasuke's rinnegan Based on Hagoromo's Rinnegan,, or they rinnegan coming from Hagoromo's
  • and Nagato was also Rinnegan User ((Fake User))

now,, my question is simple:

Do you think Hagoromo or Madara or Sasuke can use Preta path??? even if we never see it?? because you know Nagato ((fake user)) can use it!!

Please answer: my question

another question,, do you think Hokage Naruto can use 1000 bunshin??? because we never see it!!!

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#122  Edited By linglung

@djoss said:

@thenewguysnm1: Stop, you are embarrasing yourself. He already debunk you, if you dont agree then its your time to prove that he is wrong.

i think you are talking about me ((or maybe not))

but if yes,, thanks for that..

IF not,, then.. im sorry but,, im fine.. T_T

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ohhh... my man,, comeone man...

Duuuuuhhhhh.. do we actually need to do this?? do we????

ok... please remember,, Kurama Chakra >>>100x bigger atleast>>> than naruto chakra,, and... by Naruto manga logic,, More chakra,, then your Jutsu become morestronger...

example is Rasengan...

the same reason why Jiraiya can uses Chou Odama rasengan in Sage Mode,, but he can't use it in Base mode,, because SM jiraiya chakra >>> Base jiraiya chakra..

and we all know

  • Chapter 1 naruto can summon 1000 bunshin ((Naruto vs Mizuki))
  • Kid naruto can summon 1000 bunshin ((naruto vs Gaara))
  • KN0 Naruto (using kurama chakra) summon 1000 bunshin,, Naruto vs Kimimaro
  • Base Shippuden Naruto summons 30.000 bunshin to training,, atleast 30.000 bunshin
  • KCSM naruto summon hundreds of bunshins ((Naruto vs Toneri))
  • BM naruto share his chakra to 35.000 shinobi atleast ((that shinobi become his bunshin,, stated by tobirama naruto uses clone logic or clone principle when he share his chakra))
  • So6P naruto??? don't you know the one who give So6p naruto a chakra to summon 1000 bunshin was Kurama..
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so,, Kurama is the only one reason why So6P naruto can make 1000 Bunshins,,

so IF So6P naruto can make 1000 bunshin using Kurama's chakra, then what make you think BSM naruto ((Kurama Chakra + Senjutsu Chakra + Naruto chakra)) can not make 1000 Bunshins using kurama's chakra?? when KN0 naruto ((using kurama chakra)) can summon 1000 bunshin,, and So6P naruto ((using kurama chakra)) can make 1000 bunshin

Now,, time to answer your question... and this is your question

How is giving a unspecified amount of ninja a unspecified amount chakra a feat you are clutching at straws show me him doing it or concede

and now,, time is my Answer:...

remember,, when naruto give All shinobi his chakra,, he is not only give that chakra as a shield to protect the shinobi but also to increase shinobi chakra / ability.. and also naruto still can control that chakra... same like he control his Bunshin..

  • Naruto give all Shinobi his chakra
  • Naruto can control that chakra,, means that chakra still part of him ((same like bushin))
  • stated by Tobirama when naruto give all shinobi his chakra he use Bunshin Logic or the principle of Bunshin
  • another Proof,, remember,, Everyone can hear Naruto's or Shikamaru's mind and they can feels naruto's or shikamaru's sadness,, thanks to Ino shintenshin no jutsu,, even ino said naruto's heart coming through my Jutsu,, that is because Ino ((who have Kyuubi Cloak)) was part of naruto bunshin.. thats why naruto's and shikamaru's heart can coming through Ino's Shintensin no Jutsu,, even IF Naruto or Shikamaru not touching Ino DIRECTlY

everyone feels Naruto's sadness through Ino's jutsu,, even IF naruto not touching Ino directly

same like shikamaru.. who not touching Ino's Directly,, but everyone can feels his heart through ino's jutsu

same like naruto who know his bunshin minds even if He is not speak directly with his Bunshin

or just like Bunshin of Hashirama who knows his Original Minds even If Bunshin of Hashirama doesnt speak directly to His Original

I already answer your question,, and Now,, this is My Question for You..

  • Hagoromo is Rinnegan user ((Original)),, Madara is Rinnegan user ((original)),, Sasuke is Rinnegan user ((original)),,
  • and both Madara's or Sasuke's rinnegan Based on Hagoromo's Rinnegan,, or they rinnegan coming from Hagoromo's
  • and Nagato was also Rinnegan User ((Fake User))

now,, my question is simple:

Do you think Hagoromo or Madara or Sasuke ((Original users)) can use Deva path??? even if we never see them using it?? because you know Nagato ((fake user)) can use it!!

Please answer my question

another question,, do you think Base Hokage Naruto can make 1000 bunshin??? because we never see it!!!

You can ask me if you do not understand what I just talked about

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@linglung: I didnt like his attitude ( newguy), you show to him your point and he instead of show why Naruto cant make that much clones, was just in denial.

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@djoss: Show me the scan.it does not exist.

Anyway its bsm naruto and ems sasuke not much debate there.

After wano it may change.

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#126  Edited By linglung

@djoss said:

@linglung: I didnt like his attitude ( newguy), you show to him your point and he instead of show why Naruto cant make that much clones, was just in denial.

nahh..

he asked me this question:

BSM naruto can not make 1000 clones because we never see him make it.. show me a scan when he make 1000 bunshin

then,, i just ask him another question..

Nagato ((FAKE user)) can use Deva path,, but we never see Hagoromo,, or madara,, or sasuke used it.. even if Hagoromo and madara and sasuke are the ORIGINAL USER..

do you think Hagoromo and Madara and Sasuke can not use Deva path,, even if Nagato ((Fake user)) can use it?? because we never see it...

i ask him that question...

because this is the same case,, using his logic,, then Nagato is the only one who can use Deva path,, and that doesnt make sense,, because Nagato eyes,, originally is Madara's eyes,, even if madara never use Deva path

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@djoss: i think that is the only one way to stop him

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#128  Edited By linglung

on topic,, Still BSM naruto and EMS sasuke...

tbh,, Kurama susanoo + Amaterasu cloak will be very scary

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@linglung: Exactly! I guess if a ninja dont have a scan throwing a shuriken it means he cant Lol.

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#131  Edited By linglung

@thenewguysnm1 said:

@linglung: Would you be interested in a cav

don't have time to do it...

and its hard for me to do it,, ((you know,, english problem make me too long to type it)) and some people understand what im saying and some people just ignore my post... i see it when i do it before,, and CAV judged by other debater

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@thenewguysnm1: " After Wano it may change"

Sorry i dindt understand, what will change after Wano? Are you saying that Luffy will beat Bsm Naruto and Ems Sasuke after Wano?

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@djoss said:

@thenewguysnm1: " After Wano it may change"

Sorry i dindt understand, what will change after Wano? Are you saying that Luffy will beat Bsm Naruto and Ems Sasuke after Wano?

No he may get a new gear/awakening which could boast his power akin to bsm power up

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@thenewguysnm1: I still dont get why you brought Luffy here but ok sure...

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BSM Naruto and EMS Sasuke.

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If The goku luffy fought was before super and we're using the very current versions of Naruto and Sasuke then luffy and everyone else still get slapped pretty bad.

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I now think the team might beat EOS Naruto and Sauce. Composite makes Ichigo and Luffy dangerous. Ichigo's hellverse cero is well above any of his canon feats, and Luffy stalemated Toriko and ssj Goku iirc. Mel is also coming out the cocoon, so I think the team can probably beat EOS versions extreme high diff.

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Composite team should win even against EOS Naruto team. Comp Ichigo has an actual continental feat at least and the attack that caused the feat is spammable. I dont see how they get past that, let alone composite Mel and the rest.

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#140  Edited By ovy7

Yeah, Hell Verse VL Ichigo is already in the ballpark of EoS Naruto/Sasuke, add to that scaling/multipliers from True Shikai, Hollowfication, True Bankai, and you have one hell of a powerhouse.

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@ovy7 said:

Yeah, Hell Verse VL Ichigo is already in the ballpark of EoS Naruto/Sasuke, add to that scaling/multipliers from True Shikai, Hollowfication, True Bankai, and you have one hell of a powerhouse.

wat

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@ovy7 said:

Yeah, Hell Verse VL Ichigo is already in the ballpark of EoS Naruto/Sasuke, add to that scaling/multipliers from True Shikai, Hollowfication, True Bankai, and you have one hell of a powerhouse.

wat

Hell Verse Ichigo has a continent level feat and that was a casual cero which can be spammed.

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@kingogkings777 said:
@ovy7 said:

Yeah, Hell Verse VL Ichigo is already in the ballpark of EoS Naruto/Sasuke, add to that scaling/multipliers from True Shikai, Hollowfication, True Bankai, and you have one hell of a powerhouse.

wat

Hell Verse Ichigo has a continent level feat and that was a casual cero which can be spammed.

its canon?

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@faradaysloth said:
@kingogkings777 said:
@ovy7 said:

Yeah, Hell Verse VL Ichigo is already in the ballpark of EoS Naruto/Sasuke, add to that scaling/multipliers from True Shikai, Hollowfication, True Bankai, and you have one hell of a powerhouse.

wat

Hell Verse Ichigo has a continent level feat and that was a casual cero which can be spammed.

its canon?

Composite versions.

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How was Hellverse VL Ichigo's Cero continent level?

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#146  Edited By ourmanuel

@kingguinness said:

How was Hellverse VL Ichigo's Cero continent level?

The explosion reached possibly 100 miles(I might be lowballing actually)into the sky. if you watch the movie from the beginning and judged the distance from the entrance to hell to where VL was, you’d see it.

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@kingogkings777 said:
@faradaysloth said:
@kingogkings777 said:
@ovy7 said:

Yeah, Hell Verse VL Ichigo is already in the ballpark of EoS Naruto/Sasuke, add to that scaling/multipliers from True Shikai, Hollowfication, True Bankai, and you have one hell of a powerhouse.

wat

Hell Verse Ichigo has a continent level feat and that was a casual cero which can be spammed.

its canon?

Composite versions.

oh ok

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BSM Naruto couldn't make one thousand clones? How stupid tbh. Astronomically weaker versions could but somehow BSM Naruto can't when he mixed his Chakra with Kurama that could be felt countries away. I guess kid KN0 Naruto can make more clones than BSM War Arc Naruto.

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#149  Edited By LoveEveryone

Ahhhh finally a team that doesn’t consist of Saitama :)

Team stomps

Adult Sasuke said Adult Kurama Mode Naruto could destroy all of the countries nearby them if he fired his uncharged Biju Dama

https://www.mangapanda.com/boruto/6/5

No one on team is surviving this

https://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/697/3

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Mel's is the only one out of everyone here who can take all the damage and reflect it all back so imagine Naruto and Sauske throwing their most powerful attacks..... and it is a times x2 counter on it.....If he is also caught in a blast that his allies sent towards him it still counts as all of the energy he can reflect back as well. Natsu while not the fastest of the group can spam his range attacks that will help negate all forms shadow clones. In addition Tsuna can amp Natsu with his flames, to which shall give him "unlimited magic power" Luffy in Snake man form is going to give them a run for their money for he is in theory hitting them with gear four level strength at rapid speeds.

Yusuke is a S class Demon-human who has the power to destroy the world should he will it so as can any S class rank demon. His spirit gun can be combined with his spirit and demonic energy, and will pretty much cause massive blast damage. Spirit wave, shotgun, spirit grenade And his endurance is without question. His fight with Yomi lasted 60 hours......plus since this is anime version too he has sacred energy form that is a combination of spirit, demonic, and sacred energy so he can go toe to toe with them at their peaks.