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Posted by Blueshoecant (1194 posts) 2 months, 14 days ago

Poll: Stormbreaker Thor and Miss Marvel vs Hela and DCEU Doomsday (127 votes)

Thor and Carol 31%
Hela and Doomsday 11%
Thor solos 7%
Carol solos 28%
Hela solos 8%
Doomsday solos all 14%
Stalemate 0%

Fight take place in Asgard

MCU/ DCEU

Any win conditions except BFR

Everyone is bloodlusted

Binary Carol/ Post Nuke Doomsday

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#1 Posted by NiteLite (2710 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2,have to see more from Carol.

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#2 Posted by TonyStark6999 (2599 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1

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#3 Posted by NiteLite (2710 posts) - - Show Bio

@nitelite said:

Team 2,have to see more from Carol.

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#4 Posted by AvengersAsssemb (449 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor one-shots Doomsday and the two of them doubleteam Hela.

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#5 Posted by NiteLite (2710 posts) - - Show Bio

@tonystark6999: How?It's definitely close but either of team 2 can slaughter Carol,and Thor can't beat DD and Hela at once even if he can take them individually.

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#6 Edited by TonyStark6999 (2599 posts) - - Show Bio

@nitelite said:

@tonystark6999: How?It's definitely close but either of team 2 can slaughter Carol,and Thor can't beat DD and Hela at once even if he can take them individually.

So, do you mean Hela and DD can defeat SB Thor, who easily overpowered a complete IG Beam and nearly killed IG Thanos?

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#7 Posted by TonyStark6999 (2599 posts) - - Show Bio

@nitelite said:

@tonystark6999: How?It's definitely close but either of team 2 can slaughter Carol.

No, they are not defeating Carol if she is maintaining distance from them.

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#8 Posted by AvengersAsssemb (449 posts) - - Show Bio

@nitelite said:

@tonystark6999: How?It's definitely close but either of team 2 can slaughter Carol,and Thor can't beat DD and Hela at once even if he can take them individually.

They can't slaughter Carol. Her feats while in orbit place her on Man of Steel Superman-level, which is enough to go mano-a-mano with Doomsday. Thor can take care of the rest.

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#9 Posted by Nucleon (3483 posts) - - Show Bio

I haven't seen CM, but as of now, even with SB Thor they have no way to hurt Hela.

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#10 Posted by el-kun (709 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2 wins no way of hurting hela and one she drops either Thor or Carol, its 2v1

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#11 Posted by AllHellKingDox (321 posts) - - Show Bio

Doomsday solos. Hela is still above thor also.

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#12 Posted by Grand_Master520 (114 posts) - - Show Bio

DD Solo

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#13 Posted by CyberpunkCop (3406 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1

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#14 Posted by Chad_Duby (5681 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2.

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#15 Posted by Supermanthor (20343 posts) - - Show Bio

team 2

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#16 Posted by pkety (323 posts) - - Show Bio

DD solo team

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#17 Posted by Omnipotent49 (110 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2. Hela is still above Thor. DD is at least on par if not above carol.

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#18 Posted by R-RatedSavage (37 posts) - - Show Bio

Wait...no kryptonite? DD solos. All Thor and CM will do is make him stronger the more they hit him. You can’t kill him without the green rock. Also, he has overpowered heat vision so unless CM in MCU can absorb it...it’s not looking good.

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#19 Posted by DESPERO_Z_AMAZO (314 posts) - - Show Bio

People still think Slowdinson can beat Doomsday?? Lol

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#20 Posted by Nucleon (3483 posts) - - Show Bio

People still think Slowdinson can beat Doomsday?? Lol

Of course he can. DD's resistance to cutting stuff is below par, and Thor's got StormBreaker. The result is obvious to all but the most terminal of fanboys.

The problem here, is that both Thor and CM will first amp him up to incredible levels with energy, replicating Superman's stupid performence in the fight.

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#21 Edited by Nucleon (3483 posts) - - Show Bio

@r-ratedsavage said:

Wait...no kryptonite? DD solos. All Thor and CM will do is make him stronger the more they hit him. You can’t kill him without the green rock. Also, he has overpowered heat vision so unless CM in MCU can absorb it...it’s not looking good.

Didn't knew that WW's sword was made out of kryptonite. Heh.

Supes also killed zod by twisting his neck, which makes of Superman a kryptonite being, I guess.

IMO, WW could have killed DD on her own if Supes didn't amped it up with energy and general destruction like the dick he is.

Hela is much more of a problem than overwanked DD here.

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#22 Posted by Blueshoecant (1194 posts) - - Show Bio

@nucleon: but Supes is the only one who killed him in the end.

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#23 Edited by Nucleon (3483 posts) - - Show Bio

@blueshoecant said:

@nucleon: but Supes is the only one who killed him in the end.

He amped him, then killed him, also dying in the process, when he could just have WW have a swing at it. He fought like a dick but it was his show, right?

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#24 Edited by MinlerDemon (242 posts) - - Show Bio

@despero_z_amazo: team 1 doomsday are weakness he weak to magic sword of athena can cut him stormbreaker will be kill him.

carol as fast speed light wonder woman as fast as speed ammo she can tag Doomsday definitely RIP DCEU fanboy.

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#25 Posted by BreakOfDawn (2365 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2. Hela > Thor or Carol, and Doomsday > Thor and >> Carol.

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#26 Edited by Lamatero (135 posts) - - Show Bio

@breakofdawn : Thor >>> hela>>>> carol >>> doomsday.

speed ammo wonder woman = doomsday / speed light carol >>> speed ammo doomsday.

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#27 Edited by BreakOfDawn (2365 posts) - - Show Bio

@lamatero: This is just wrong. Hela was handily fighting both Valkyrie - one of the greatest fighters in the history of the nine realms - and awakened Thor at the same time. Stormbreaker won't give him nearly the edge Thor needs to take her when she already has feats like catching and crushing Mjolnir into rubble.

As for Doomsday, he's Superman level in strength alone and has a considerable healing factor and durability as well as energy projection. If anything, the hierarchy goes Doomsday >/= Hela on Asgard >> Hela > Thor >> Carol.

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#28 Posted by Flashrules (29 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol, mismatch, DD and Hdle stomps, I know SB made thor more powerful but it didn't increase his durability, he a one shots him via her spikes, and DD demolishe Carol lol

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#29 Posted by BreakOfDawn (2365 posts) - - Show Bio

@flashrules: Thor's not getting one-shot at all. He's too fast and too skilled for Hela to just impale him considering that he was able to react to her blades with a split-second warning. DD does demolish Carol though.

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#30 Edited by Lamatero (135 posts) - - Show Bio

@breakofdawn: speed wonder woman tag him she are fast as ammo.

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carol fast as light speed CM over in speed doomsday cannot tag she.

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#31 Posted by BreakOfDawn (2365 posts) - - Show Bio

@lamatero: What on earth is "speed ammo"? And Carol isn't "light speed" in actual reflexes, only in flight speed. She's fast, but not that fast. DD has managed to react to a blitzing Superman and WW before, so that's moot.

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#32 Posted by FlashGreaterSignEveryone (1843 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2. Hela > Thor or Carol, and Doomsday > Thor and >> Carol.

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#33 Edited by Lamatero (135 posts) - - Show Bio

@breakofdawn : this are a joke doomsday to slow Statue not fight back

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#34 Posted by BreakOfDawn (2365 posts) - - Show Bio

@lamatero: How original. 10 out of 10 meme, so funny.

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#35 Posted by The_living_tribunal_24 (6589 posts) - - Show Bio

DD solos.

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#36 Edited by The_living_tribunal_24 (6589 posts) - - Show Bio

@breakofdawn said:

@flashrules: Thor's not getting one-shot at all. He's too fast and too skilled for Hela to just impale him considering that he was able to react to her blades with a split-second warning. DD does demolish Carol though.

>Thor

>Fast

lol

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#37 Posted by Yamiyodare (1433 posts) - - Show Bio

Doomsday solos.

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#38 Edited by BreakOfDawn (2365 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_living_tribunal_24: Cute.

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Consistently reacts to Hela's blades, tendrils of aether energy fast enough to create a sonic boom, the Destroyer's blasts which appear to be nearly instantaneous, and so on.

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#40 Posted by BreakOfDawn (2365 posts) - - Show Bio

@lamatero: Second troll post you've tagged me in within 15 minutes of each other. Going to flag you soon if you keep it up.

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#41 Posted by The_living_tribunal_24 (6589 posts) - - Show Bio

in that first gif he clearly aim dodges as he notices the destroyer is about to attack and simply makes an educated guess on where the blast is going to go based on the destroyer's head.

those tendrils look pretty slow.

cute completely different distances and it was going much slower.

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#42 Edited by Helloman (30115 posts) - - Show Bio

Team two wins.

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#43 Posted by Blueshoecant (1194 posts) - - Show Bio

Carol is fast i have to admit, but she's nowhere near the speed of light..

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#44 Edited by Brittonic_para (266 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_living_tribunal_24: >when all of thors reaction feats are ignored because some guy says "those tendrils look pretty slow.

I mean, look pretty fast to me. It's almost like that isnt an argument.

Do agree of the destroyer blast though, was pretty clear he was aim dodging that one.

Just completely ignored all of the other ones. Thor doesnt have any massive combat speed but to suggest he is to slow to fight doomsday is pretty laughable considering doomsday showed no effective speed in comparison. That's really the point I'm driving at here.

On topic, Carol and thor still lose. Dont see either beating hela. Carol probably loses to doomsday, and depending on how thor fights him vs doomsday could be a toss up.

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#45 Posted by CarmineDcMarvel (327 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2 handily.

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#46 Posted by eri123 (1217 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1

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#47 Posted by Eobard21 (6226 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2

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#48 Edited by Flashrules (29 posts) - - Show Bio

@breakofdawn: you watched ragnarok right? Thor stood no chance against Hela, stombreaker may give thor a great striking chance but like I said his durability against piercing weapons is still the same, and you're talking about speed as if speed is something that thor is known for, with characters like sups, surfer, flash, quicksilver u can talk about speed, but not thor

By the way, did he forgot he had superspeed when he fought her in ragnarok?

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#49 Edited by BreakOfDawn (2365 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_living_tribunal_24 If you're going to lowball the feats at least have the decency to tag me. How "slow" the tendrils appear to be is irrelevant. They pretty clearly create a sonic boom when Malekith unleashes them, so they were travelling at least at 343 metres per second over a distance of about 15 to 20 metres.

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Clearly move at a pretty consistent speed, all of which he reacts to pretty casually.

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you watched ragnarok right?

Obviously

Thor stood no chance against Hela,

Contradicted by a weaker version of him and Valkyrie holding their own against her for several minutes despite her being able to tap into Asgard's power.

stombreaker may give thor a great striking chance but like I said his durability against piercing weapons is still the same,

Riiiight, because it's not like he shrugged off multiple strikes from her, including having his eye slashed out, being sliced across the torso, having blades driven into his forearms, and being stabbed through the shoulder, is it?

and you're talking about speed as if speed is something that thor is known for, with characters like sups, surfer, flash, quicksilver u can talk about speed, but not thor

Try re-reading what I said. He's too fast to be one-shot, meaning he's not like the Warrior's Three who were one-shot due to being unable to react. Thor was keeping pace with Hela for a time even before his awakening, and afterwards she held a slight edge at best.

By the way, did he forgot he had superspeed when he fought her in ragnarok?

Did Thanos forget he had the reality stone during the battle of Titan? Did Malekith forget he could simply BFR Thor like he did to Mjolnir? It's called plot for a reason. Who's to say Hela also didn't have superspeed? She's Odin's firstborn so logically should have superior powers to Thor, including his speed.

And for the record, Thor is the exact same way in the comics. Jane Foster has moved fast enough to become invisible and perform complicated brain surgery on four patients at once, yet never moves that way in any of her other fights. Got a problem with it? Take it up with the director and screenwriter. Just because Marvel films don't feel the need to overblow their productions with crappy speedster animations doesn't mean the characters aren't fast.

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#50 Edited by KingLouie (3567 posts) - - Show Bio

Doomsday solos