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#1 Posted by imblackjames (366 posts) - - Show Bio

fight takes place in Boston storms on a the street and spidey is  on a building they start 50 meters apart
 
storm can fly and can ONLY use the lightning from her hands otherwise standard gear

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morals on who wins?
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#2 Posted by termiteone4ever (11216 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm Got this . :) Spider man is one of my fav but strom would take him. too much powers agaist him :(  
  i don't see him getting a chance to hit her.

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#3 Posted by Matezoide2 (16064 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll go with Spider-Man just for the sake of it

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#4 Posted by Jake Fury (21941 posts) - - Show Bio

if Storm can only use her lightning then Spidey avoids her and KOs her pretty easily.
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#5 Posted by The Umbra Sorcerer (8361 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm's got this one in the bag 
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#6 Posted by Silver2467 (16987 posts) - - Show Bio

Mismatch. 

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#7 Posted by lord_oraculous016 (9443 posts) - - Show Bio

Storm..

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#8 Edited by Matezoide2 (16064 posts) - - Show Bio

frankly,Storm only got lighting,what makes her different than Electro?
 
with the exception she is smarter and cant control metal

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#9 Posted by Wyldsong (8225 posts) - - Show Bio

If Storm can only use lightning from her hands, then i am sorry, she can't take Spidey.  Spidey is faster, stronger, has spider sense, webs, etc., etc.   
 
If all she is doing is throwing lightning from her hands, then that isn't anything Spidey can't tackle and hasn't dealt with before.

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#10 Posted by kagetaicho (1996 posts) - - Show Bio

despite the nerf, Storm wins. Despite his reaction time, Spidey simply lacks the speed to dodge lightning at 50 meters. his max movement speed on the ground is about 35 mph.

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#11 Edited by Matezoide2 (16064 posts) - - Show Bio
@kagetaicho said:

" despite the nerf, Storm wins. Despite his reaction time, Spidey simply lacks the speed to dodge lightning at 50 meters. his max movement speed on the ground is about 35 mph. "

he can still swing around the city,wich enables him to move faster than bullets
his ground speed is irrelevant,he can react to the danger and move out of harm's way before the lighting hits him,he doesnt have to dodge lighting,only Storm's aim
and morals apply,she wont go all out against him 
his web can also take eletricity and he has been eletrocuted in the past plenty times without going down
 
in fact,he could probaly sneak on Storm
 
Spider-Man wins here
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#12 Posted by Wyldsong (8225 posts) - - Show Bio
@kagetaicho said:
" despite the nerf, Storm wins. Despite his reaction time, Spidey simply lacks the speed to dodge lightning at 50 meters. his max movement speed on the ground is about 35 mph. "
Spidey casually dodges bullets, and has been shown to be able to dodge energy blasts, Electro's electric blasts, and I could swear I saw a scan of him dodging Moonstone's mental abilities by moving faster than she could track him.  Spidey sense plus his speed for the win here.
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#13 Edited by Matezoide2 (16064 posts) - - Show Bio
@Wyldsong said:

" @kagetaicho said:

" despite the nerf, Storm wins. Despite his reaction time, Spidey simply lacks the speed to dodge lightning at 50 meters. his max movement speed on the ground is about 35 mph. "
Spidey casually dodges bullets, and has been shown to be able to dodge energy blasts, Electro's electric blasts, and I could swear I saw a scan of him dodging Moonstone's mental abilities by moving faster than she could track him.  Spidey sense plus his speed for the win here. "
this
whats the point of power when you cant hit your opponent?
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#15 Posted by Static Shock (52294 posts) - - Show Bio
@Buckshot: LOL.
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#16 Posted by Matezoide2 (16064 posts) - - Show Bio
@Buckshot: 
epic
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#17 Posted by Silver2467 (16987 posts) - - Show Bio

So, people are arguing that SpiderMan can dodge lightning? Lightning moves around half the speed of light. SpiderMan could dodge bullets all day long and in his sleep, but I have never seen him demonstrate reflexive capability on that level. 

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#18 Posted by Wyldsong (8225 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" So, people are arguing that SpiderMan can dodge lightning? Lightning moves around half the speed of light. SpiderMan could dodge bullets all day long and in his sleep, but I have never seen him demonstrate reflexive capability on that level.  "
Alright, you are trying to bring reality into a comic book scenario, but with his spider sense, he will most likely react and be out of the way before she can even fire a shot.  Besides, again, if he can dodge Electro and other energy blasters, then he can dodge Storm.
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#19 Posted by Static Shock (52294 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" So, people are arguing that SpiderMan can dodge lightning? Lightning moves around half the speed of light. SpiderMan could dodge bullets all day long and in his sleep, but I have never seen him demonstrate reflexive capability on that level.  "
Well, he has dodged lightning from Electro multiple times. However, I don't think that lightning is actually that fast.
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#20 Posted by BuckshotWasHere (19544 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" So, people are arguing that SpiderMan can dodge lightning? Lightning moves around half the speed of light. SpiderMan could dodge bullets all day long and in his sleep, but I have never seen him demonstrate reflexive capability on that level.  "
You mean all those times he fought Electro he wasn't dodging electricity?
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#21 Posted by ComicMan24 (147651 posts) - - Show Bio

After some research a lightning can travel at 22,000 mph.

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#22 Posted by kagetaicho (1996 posts) - - Show Bio
@Wyldsong: true but bullets are hardly lightning. the bullet moves near to 5x the speed of sound (speed of sound = approx 770 mph) however lightning moves typically between 100-1000 miles per second. Realistically, he couldn't even react to it much less dodge it. Also what would he do if she went airborne? All he could do then is use his web (provided she doesn't fly too high)
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#23 Edited by Matezoide2 (16064 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:

" So, people are arguing that SpiderMan can dodge lightning? Lightning moves around half the speed of light. SpiderMan could dodge bullets all day long and in his sleep, but I have never seen him demonstrate reflexive capability on that level.  "

Spider-Man doenst have to out-react the lighting,just keep moving so fast Storm can not aim at him,most street-levels do that against bullets
also
  Btw,can anyone tell me who's the chick?
  Btw,can anyone tell me who's the chick?

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again,Storm will be holding back,she wont unleash on Spidey like Electro does
 
@kagetaicho:
not at all,he can use web-swing and use the inertia to reach Storm
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#24 Posted by Silver2467 (16987 posts) - - Show Bio
 @Wyldsong said: 
Alright, you are trying to bring reality into a comic book scenario, but with his spider sense, he will most likely react and be out of the way before she can even fire a shot.  Besides, again, if he can dodge Electro and other energy blasters, then he can dodge Storm. "
Electro=/=Storm. Electro manipulates electrical energy; he does not produce lightning. Different powers, different scenario. The only case that could be made to discredit my point is if the lightning from her hands does not travel as fast as ordinary lightning. My understanding had always been that it does, but I could be wrong. 
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#26 Posted by Wyldsong (8225 posts) - - Show Bio
@kagetaicho said:
" @Wyldsong: true but bullets are hardly lightning. the bullet moves near to 5x the speed of sound (speed of sound = approx 770 mph) however lightning moves typically between 100-1000 miles per second. Realistically, he couldn't even react to it much less dodge it. Also what would he do if she went airborne? All he could do then is use his web (provided she doesn't fly too high) "
She has human level reaction and speed.  Spidey is faster period. 
 
So, since she is firing lightning from her hands, she has to aim and shoot.  Spidey with his precog senses (aka Spidey Sense) reacts and moves.  True, she can fly, but Spidey has fought fliers before and come out on top.  We are in a city, he has buildings, plus webs, plus speed.  I think Spidey is fast enough to tag her with a web or two.   
 
Now,  beyond dodging bullets, what about other energy blasters he has been able to dodge.  Have you calculated the speeds of their blasts versus lightning and bullets? And what is the difference between the speeds of what Electro can throw (from his hands I might add) and what Storm will be throwing.  Fact of the matter, Storm is for all intents and purposes neutered here.  Spidey takes it period.
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#27 Edited by Matezoide2 (16064 posts) - - Show Bio
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he could have killed her if he wanted to or even punched her again as she said ''You dare?''  before she could even react
 
exactly why cant Spider-Man sneak on Storm? they are fighting in a city
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#28 Posted by The Umbra Sorcerer (8361 posts) - - Show Bio
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#29 Posted by Matezoide2 (16064 posts) - - Show Bio
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he still could have KO'ed or attacked her again :P
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#30 Posted by Fresh0133 (534 posts) - - Show Bio
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Lol, this, Spidey's got her outmatched.
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#31 Posted by The Umbra Sorcerer (8361 posts) - - Show Bio
@Matezoide:
He Probabilty could have but i still loved Scan none the less
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#32 Posted by Wyldsong (8225 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
"  @Wyldsong said: 
Alright, you are trying to bring reality into a comic book scenario, but with his spider sense, he will most likely react and be out of the way before she can even fire a shot.  Besides, again, if he can dodge Electro and other energy blasters, then he can dodge Storm. "
Electro=/=Storm. Electro manipulates electrical energy; he does not produce lightning. Different powers, different scenario. The only case that could be made to discredit my point is if the lightning from her hands does not travel as fast as ordinary lightning. My understanding had always been that it does, but I could be wrong.  "
But to discredit your point is that Storm has human level speed and reaction.  I explained above, but what is the speed of her lightning versus other energy blasters he has dodged? 
 
We are talking about aiming at and trying to hit a speedy partial precog. 
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#33 Posted by Matezoide2 (16064 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Umbra Sorcerer said:
" @Matezoide: He Probabilty could have but i still loved Scan none the less "
it was prety funny,indeed :P
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#34 Posted by Dark Magik (190 posts) - - Show Bio
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he could have killed her if he wanted to or even punched her again as she said ''You dare?''  before she could even react exactly why cant Spider-Man sneak on Storm? they are fighting in a city "
I'm well aware of that fact. But the context of the reason why he did that punch was to break her out of a trance. And it just irks me when people post just that part.
 
Then she should have more than enough time to fly out of his reach.
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#35 Posted by The Umbra Sorcerer (8361 posts) - - Show Bio
@Wyldsong said:
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Alright, you are trying to bring reality into a comic book scenario, but with his spider sense, he will most likely react and be out of the way before she can even fire a shot.  Besides, again, if he can dodge Electro and other energy blasters, then he can dodge Storm. "
Electro=/=Storm. Electro manipulates electrical energy; he does not produce lightning. Different powers, different scenario. The only case that could be made to discredit my point is if the lightning from her hands does not travel as fast as ordinary lightning. My understanding had always been that it does, but I could be wrong.  "
But to discredit your point is that Storm has human level speed and reaction.  I explained above, but what is the speed of her lightning versus other energy blasters he has dodged?  We are talking about aiming at and trying to hit a speedy partial precog.  "


Storm can fly in this match up so that evens the out on the speed level
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#36 Posted by Silver2467 (16987 posts) - - Show Bio
@ComicMan24 said:
" After some research a lightning can travel at 22,000 mph. "
Much faster than that. I have no idea where you got this statistic from, but it travels far faster. 
 
@Matezoide said: 
he still could have KO'ed or attacked her again :P "
That one punch should have KO'd her, but that was non-canon anyway. 
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#37 Edited by Matezoide2 (16064 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:

@Matezoide said: 

he still could have KO'ed or attacked her again :P "
That one punch should have KO'd her, but that was non-canon anyway.  "
he didnt want to fight her,he wanted to break her out from a trance :P
 
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he could have killed her if he wanted to or even punched her again as she said ''You dare?''  before she could even react exactly why cant Spider-Man sneak on Storm? they are fighting in a city "
I'm well aware of that fact. But the context of the reason why he did that punch was to break her out of a trance. And it just irks me when people post just that part.
 
Then she should have more than enough time to fly out of his reach. "

he can move faster than she can react.HA!
 
and most people are aware he wanted to help her,we just post it for 3 reasons
1) Spider-Man is awesome
2) Storm hating has gotten somewhat popular because of trolls
3) it is funny
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#38 Posted by Wyldsong (8225 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Umbra Sorcerer said:
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"  @Wyldsong said: 
Alright, you are trying to bring reality into a comic book scenario, but with his spider sense, he will most likely react and be out of the way before she can even fire a shot.  Besides, again, if he can dodge Electro and other energy blasters, then he can dodge Storm. "
Electro=/=Storm. Electro manipulates electrical energy; he does not produce lightning. Different powers, different scenario. The only case that could be made to discredit my point is if the lightning from her hands does not travel as fast as ordinary lightning. My understanding had always been that it does, but I could be wrong.  "
But to discredit your point is that Storm has human level speed and reaction.  I explained above, but what is the speed of her lightning versus other energy blasters he has dodged?  We are talking about aiming at and trying to hit a speedy partial precog.  "
Storm can fly in this match up so that evens the out on the speed level "
Flying fast doesn't even this up.  She has to be able to react as well.  I can get in a car and drive fast, doesn't mean driving fast makes me react any faster.
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#39 Posted by Dark Magik (190 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:

" @ComicMan24 said:

" After some research a lightning can travel at 22,000 mph. "
Much faster than that. I have no idea where you got this statistic from, but it travels far faster. 
 
I got 270,000.
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#40 Posted by Dark Magik (190 posts) - - Show Bio
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he still could have KO'ed or attacked her again :P "
That one punch should have KO'd her, but that was non-canon anyway.  "
he didnt want to fight her,he wanted to break her out from a trance :P
 
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he could have killed her if he wanted to or even punched her again as she said ''You dare?''  before she could even react exactly why cant Spider-Man sneak on Storm? they are fighting in a city "
I'm well aware of that fact. But the context of the reason why he did that punch was to break her out of a trance. And it just irks me when people post just that part.
 
Then she should have more than enough time to fly out of his reach. "
he can move faster than she can react.HA!  and most people are aware he wanted to help her,we just post it for 3 reasons 1) Spider-Man is awesome 2) Storm hating has gotten somewhat popular because of trolls 3) it is funny "
Speed of light! lol.
 

1)AGREED!
2)And I was always there to squash them when it got too out of hand.
3) So is her getting hit in the face with a pie. Don't see that image getting posted that much. lol.
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#41 Posted by Silver2467 (16987 posts) - - Show Bio
@Wyldsong said: 
But to discredit your point is that Storm has human level speed and reaction.  I explained above, but what is the speed of her lightning versus other energy blasters he has dodged?  We are talking about aiming at and trying to hit a speedy partial precog.  "
Already been addressed by someone else. If the lightning from her hands is not as fast or even as powerful as regular lightning is, then I was wrong. If so, I have a hard time seeing SpiderMan win this. 
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#42 Posted by The Umbra Sorcerer (8361 posts) - - Show Bio
@Wyldsong said:
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"  @Wyldsong said: 
Alright, you are trying to bring reality into a comic book scenario, but with his spider sense, he will most likely react and be out of the way before she can even fire a shot.  Besides, again, if he can dodge Electro and other energy blasters, then he can dodge Storm. "
Electro=/=Storm. Electro manipulates electrical energy; he does not produce lightning. Different powers, different scenario. The only case that could be made to discredit my point is if the lightning from her hands does not travel as fast as ordinary lightning. My understanding had always been that it does, but I could be wrong.  "
But to discredit your point is that Storm has human level speed and reaction.  I explained above, but what is the speed of her lightning versus other energy blasters he has dodged?  We are talking about aiming at and trying to hit a speedy partial precog.  "
Storm can fly in this match up so that evens the out on the speed level "
Flying fast doesn't even this up.  She has to be able to react as well.  I can get in a car and drive fast, doesn't mean driving fast makes me react any faster. "

Not reaction Time wise but how will spidey Hit a speeding Flying Woman that is if she can get up in the Air before he strikes
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#43 Posted by ComicMan24 (147651 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467: Perhaps but half lightspeed seems a bit too much to me. I will research mire.
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#44 Posted by Dark Magik (190 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" @Wyldsong said: 
But to discredit your point is that Storm has human level speed and reaction.  I explained above, but what is the speed of her lightning versus other energy blasters he has dodged?  We are talking about aiming at and trying to hit a speedy partial precog.  "
Already been addressed by someone else. If the lightning from her hands is not as fast or even as powerful as regular lightning is, then I was wrong. If so, I have a hard time seeing SpiderMan win this.  "
How much power is enough?
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#45 Posted by Matezoide2 (16064 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dark Magik: 
1) of course
2) nice :D
3) Spider-Man >>>>>>>>>>> Pie
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#46 Posted by Silver2467 (16987 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dark Magik said:
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" @ComicMan24 said:

" After some research a lightning can travel at 22,000 mph. "
Much faster than that. I have no idea where you got this statistic from, but it travels far faster. 
 
I got 270,000. "
270000 what? MPH, MPS, FPS?
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#47 Posted by Static Shock (52294 posts) - - Show Bio
@ComicMan24 said:
" After some research a lightning can travel at 22,000 mph. "
You got that from Wikipedia. You know better than that. LOL.
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#48 Posted by Dark Magik (190 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" @Dark Magik said:
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" @ComicMan24 said:

" After some research a lightning can travel at 22,000 mph. "
Much faster than that. I have no idea where you got this statistic from, but it travels far faster. 
 
I got 270,000. "
270000 what? MPH, MPS, FPS? "
Sorry Silver MPH.
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#49 Posted by Dark Magik (190 posts) - - Show Bio
@Matezoide 
BUT IT'S PIE!
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#50 Posted by ComicMan24 (147651 posts) - - Show Bio
@Static Shock said:
" @ComicMan24 said:
" After some research a lightning can travel at 22,000 mph. "
You got that from Wikipedia. You know better than that. LOL. "
LOL Oops busted.