Storm & Polaris vs Pre-Shaman Nate Grey (TK only)

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Poll Storm & Polaris vs Pre-Shaman Nate Grey (TK only) (36 votes)

Storm & Polaris 36%
Nate 64%

Storm and Polaris vs Nate with only his TK.

Pre-Shaman version for Nate

Morals on and in-character for everyone

Fight starts at, but is not restricted to, Central Park NY

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Dam this is VERY even.

Nate could overpower one of them pretty easily but I have to give it to the ladies.

They have better range offense and either one can stall him long enough for the other to high end. For all his power Nate fights like an idiot an isn't ready for them.

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#3  Edited By Stormcell

Storm solos. Pre-Shaman Nate Grey's TP would be no match for Ororo's mental defenses, and her elemental powers could easily strain him out.

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I think the team can overwhelm him in a very close battle

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Grey demolishes.

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@stormcell: I kind of agree. She could overwhelm him. But he has feats like using telekinesis to turn people's power off when using his brain.

Though with Polaris, they definitely win

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@stormcell: I kind of agree. She could overwhelm him. But he has feats like using telekinesis to turn people's power off when using his brain.

Though with Polaris, they definitely win

The fact iis Nate would first have to connect with his TK to pull that feat off. The problem is Storm has a lot of ways to win this fight. She could cause an easy stalemate simply by snowblinding him and hiding her mind from psychic detection. Without being able to locate her visually or telepathically, he has no way of knowing where to direct his TK assaults. Furthermore, she could even amp up the electrical charge in her brain to take him out if he tried any TP move on her or made any TP contact with her mind.

Not only that, but Storm has ways of distracting Nate. She has her internal attacks (some of which can instantly take him out, like she did against Sinister by cascading the electrical impulses in his brain and nervous system), but even removing that, she can force him to put all of his power in a TK defense by unleashing a sustained elemental barrage of tremendous power leaving him nothing to spare for a counter-attack. Given the way Storm's powers work, this sustained attack can continue without her continued attention or power use meaning while he's strained out, she can attack him other ways.

Here are examples of what I'm referring to about Storm's elemental assaults continuing without her constant power use or attention:

Uncanny X-Men #127:

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/F0c-hkZ7PKIj1E9rBcq-tpsiuG_NSnQeGk4FXrVPZSwJ-iTqlCshIxk5776GETZEtVRWaS3s0T7G=s1600

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/dApI1JP_1OttYagaba0AzJjg0FXFkvwB3IjFeY5svfm5wo2NfLwxFVv8w7TP5JISK9ij0RlO7-Qo=s1600

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/3StQ4W0771ieO1g0U9qPkA7r0YN1MXn6B-wOntA9dchWBK0MXdRLL_YUE9eT3u1iGrG5D94P-5MB=s1600

So, the gale Ororo created kept raging even after Proteus knocked her out until it ran out of energy.

Here is another example from X-Treme X-Men #27:

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/kRVWQs9_lQqGPENo72YFSQWLmVqmC_S5A1CK3O1zXr_4t-LG2N8t9slFRB9ml_GaTg4_Nr9hotHI=s1600

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/q-gdX8Dxl8-Xb91OBl-wUNZFpxn243i0z67wW3oVlX4dRF4Zn6Nn-6nfrgF2BbZMziZV27II8WXc=s1600

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/TcsAwPgUtddl1f5pJoOx--LPTKIM6HdtWA9guFkrXrr54VHdwqK8EzJvtKms_J1_9Lclhsgw2lTW=s1600

Note how Ororo tells Logan that even killing her would not stop the storm. Ororo has to put nature back in balance to correct it:

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/iCRGKU6yV7tjiBj37J4ExnTfPgGwse7GV4nRnTI-t7jnx2oabS4X7iQfX6Fa11VtnrZUEFQgfKyf=s1600

So, what I am saying is she could unleash an elemental barrage on Nate to strain him out, ignore the barrage while it continues, and then start using her powers in other ways like internal attacks, etc, while he's strained out.

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Isn't Nate Omega level?

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Isn't Nate Omega level?

Irrelevant. Storm has the potential to wield unlimited power, too. Besides, that's neither here nor there. Nate gets strained out and everything dealing with foes much weaker than Ororo.

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@jagernutt: Being Omega or not doesnt mean much at all.

Storm & Polaris win. This version of Nate, restricted to TK, was not very impressive, and now he’s up against two very powerful mutants who could give him a hard time even 1v1

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@jagernutt said:

Isn't Nate Omega level?

Irrelevant. Storm has the potential to wield unlimited power, too. Besides, that's neither here nor there. Nate gets strained out and everything dealing with foes much weaker than Ororo.

there are people waiting for you in the storm vs nate thread :)

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Team wins

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#15  Edited By Stormcell

@marvelfan1992 said:
@stormcell said:
@jagernutt said:

Isn't Nate Omega level?

Irrelevant. Storm has the potential to wield unlimited power, too. Besides, that's neither here nor there. Nate gets strained out and everything dealing with foes much weaker than Ororo.

there are people waiting for you in the storm vs nate thread :)

For all your supposed complaints about me, you people sure love to fight with me. I guess I liven things up around here. ;)

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Pretty sure Nate's TK crushed a moon (iirc) so i don't get how he wouldn't use that here.

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#17  Edited By marvelfan1992

@stormcell: go go there's a whole thread's worth of people to educate!! And yes you definitely liven things up, I love to see monkeys dancing

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@marvelfan1992 said:
@stormcell said:
@jagernutt said:

Isn't Nate Omega level?

Irrelevant. Storm has the potential to wield unlimited power, too. Besides, that's neither here nor there. Nate gets strained out and everything dealing with foes much weaker than Ororo.

there are people waiting for you in the storm vs nate thread :)

For all your supposed complaints about me, you people sure love to fight with me. I guess I liven things up around here. ;)

@stormcell: go go there's a whole thread's worth of people to educate!! And yes you definitely liven things up, I love to see monkeys dancing

LMFAO wtf is going on on CV

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#19  Edited By Stormcell

@stormcell: go go there's a whole thread's worth of people to educate!! And yes you definitely liven things up, I love to see monkeys dancing

All this time I thought you guys were enjoying the lesson I was admistering to you in humility in how my posts have been intellectually destroying you in every thread I've entered. :P

But, seriously, I'm winning these fights handily eventhough you people don't like to admit when you're wrong.

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@marvelfan1992 said:

@stormcell: go go there's a whole thread's worth of people to educate!! And yes you definitely liven things up, I love to see monkeys dancing

All this time I thought you guys were enjoying the lesson I was admistering to you in humility in how my posts have been intellectually destroying you in every thread I've entered. :P

But, seriously, I'm winning these fights handily eventhough you people don't like to admit when you're wrong.

yes monkey dance! Now educate the people in the Storm vs X-Man thread and Storm vs Captain Marvel thread

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#21  Edited By Stormcell

@marvelfan1992 said:
@stormcell said:
@marvelfan1992 said:

@stormcell: go go there's a whole thread's worth of people to educate!! And yes you definitely liven things up, I love to see monkeys dancing

All this time I thought you guys were enjoying the lesson I was admistering to you in humility in how my posts have been intellectually destroying you in every thread I've entered. :P

But, seriously, I'm winning these fights handily eventhough you people don't like to admit when you're wrong.

yes monkey dance! Now educate the people in the Storm vs X-Man thread and Storm vs Captain Marvel thread

Nah, I've crushed you folks, so I'm gonna give your egos a break to recover from the beat down I've handed down.

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@marvelfan1992 said:
@stormcell said:
@marvelfan1992 said:

@stormcell: go go there's a whole thread's worth of people to educate!! And yes you definitely liven things up, I love to see monkeys dancing

All this time I thought you guys were enjoying the lesson I was admistering to you in humility in how my posts have been intellectually destroying you in every thread I've entered. :P

But, seriously, I'm winning these fights handily eventhough you people don't like to admit when you're wrong.

yes monkey dance! Now educate the people in the Storm vs X-Man thread and Storm vs Captain Marvel thread

Nah, I've crushed you folks, so I'm gonna give your egos a break to recover from the beat down I've handed down.

aw my little dancing monkey ran out of energy :(

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I think Nate will put up a good fight, but they have the experience, versatile power and numbers advantage, so I see them winning more often than not.

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#24  Edited By Batvibe12

Team with high difficulty.

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@stormcell said:
@marvelfan1992 said:
@stormcell said:
@marvelfan1992 said:

@stormcell: go go there's a whole thread's worth of people to educate!! And yes you definitely liven things up, I love to see monkeys dancing

All this time I thought you guys were enjoying the lesson I was admistering to you in humility in how my posts have been intellectually destroying you in every thread I've entered. :P

But, seriously, I'm winning these fights handily eventhough you people don't like to admit when you're wrong.

yes monkey dance! Now educate the people in the Storm vs X-Man thread and Storm vs Captain Marvel thread

Nah, I've crushed you folks, so I'm gonna give your egos a break to recover from the beat down I've handed down.

aw my little dancing monkey ran out of energy :(

Not gonna engage in personal insults...

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@stormcell: why aren't you dancing in the Storm vs Captain Marvel thread?

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#28  Edited By Mooty_Pass

Team X-Ladies for the Win.

Now, this is a VERY interesting fight. Nate is an exceptional adversary in TK abilities. Alone I don’t think either X-Lady(with Morals) has what it takes to take him down. But together? Should provide sufficient power to overwhelm Nate. Although, Nate is most definitely not going down without a fight so....the X-Ladies are in for a good long battle to which they should come out on Top.

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Lol the difference in the arguments and the votes is astounding

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Stalemate.

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@mooty_pass: The majority are saying Polaris and Storm and yet Nate is God stomping the vote

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I say storm and polaris because not only is he restricted to just tk storm and polaris powers can increase the others and while one make sure his concentration is down the other can attack to finish him.

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@koays: Yeah, there does seem to be a bit of a contradiction here. Oh well, that’s CV for ya.

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Storm & Polaris should win this. The vital flaws of the tk/telepathy etc are the speed of how the user thinks. Nate needs to concentrate for even a slightest fraction of second. That's the time where a human tells the brain to do something,then the brain sends back the signals to necessary parts.

Storm will simply use elctromagnetic pulse/lightening etc for a quickwin.

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@goku9000: So somehow, Storm is fast enough to attack before Nate can think by using a complicated offense that she barely has feats of doing, against someone who's entire thing is that hes a force of will TK user?

I'm all for Polaris and Storm taking this. But doesn't Storm need to THINK before she does something so complicated and precise....never mind the assumption that Marvel telepaths think and act much faster then regular human thought.

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Nate almost effortlessly

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Nate in a great fight

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Nate stomps. His shields have already tanked attacks from storm , so she ain't getting through them. He'd suppress Lorna's powers just like he did to her dad and then one-shott her. After Lorna gets stomped Nate proceeds to one-shott glass cannon storm

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@godlyshinigami: what's this new found love for nate and where did it come from?

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@olorun: I've been reading some old X comics that have Nate in them and I've really grown to Like his character

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@godlyshinigami: nice, I do love reading 80's to 90's comics for some reason, just love Ron lim' art not to mention marz's which is arguably top 5 marvel aritists.

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