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#1 Posted by Swagga Boy (3737 posts) - - Show Bio

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#2 Posted by The Scientist (614 posts) - - Show Bio

If Mace can get up close Star killer can go home, but if Star gets the first move Mace is out for the count.

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#3 Edited by oldmagic (5265 posts) - - Show Bio

what a stupid battle. Obviously starkiller wins. 

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#4 Posted by Sparda (15794 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
"what a stupid battle. Obviously starkiller wins. "
That was a little unnecessary.
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#5 Posted by The Scientist (614 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
"what a stupid battle. Obviously starkiller wins. "
... why excatly? mace is a better sword fighter
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#6 Posted by nathandan1222 (1886 posts) - - Show Bio
The Scientist said:
"oldmagic said:
"what a stupid battle. Obviously starkiller wins. "
... why excatly? mace is a better sword fighter"
now starkiller vs lando carlasssian is a stupid battle this one isnt so bad
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#7 Posted by The Scientist (614 posts) - - Show Bio

lol (and i don't do that much)

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#8 Posted by oldmagic (5265 posts) - - Show Bio
 The Scientist said:
"oldmagic said:
"what a stupid battle. Obviously starkiller wins. "
... why excatly? mace is a better sword fighter"
And starkiller could kill him before he even makes his move.
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#9 Posted by DOMINIS (164 posts) - - Show Bio

Mace Windu is a way better duelist than Starkiller, and is on par with him as far as the force goes. I would go with Mace considering he had a better mastery of the force than Starkiller. Mace was also able to take out armies with the force alone, and his force waves are probably more powerful than Starkiller's.

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#10 Posted by oldmagic (5265 posts) - - Show Bio
DOMINIS said:
"Mace Windu is a way better duelist than Starkiller, and is on par with him as far as the force goes. I would go with Mace considering he had a better mastery of the force than Starkiller. Mace was also able to take out armies with the force alone, and his force waves are probably more powerful than Starkiller's."
lol i can't wait till Dreadnaught hear this. 
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#11 Posted by Swagga Boy (3737 posts) - - Show Bio

lol I bet

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#12 Posted by Tevnoba (3451 posts) - - Show Bio
The Scientist said:
"If Mace can get up close Star killer can go home, but if Star gets the first move Mace is out for the count."
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#13 Posted by oldmagic (5265 posts) - - Show Bio

is it me or does mace look like he has bucktooth teeth?

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#14 Posted by DOMINIS (164 posts) - - Show Bio

Starkiller was almost defeated by Shaak Ti, who was no where near Mace's level.

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#15 Posted by The Scientist (614 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
" bucktooth teeth?"
simply put "buckteeth"

and yes.
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#16 Posted by oldmagic (5265 posts) - - Show Bio
 The Scientist said:
"oldmagic said:
" bucktooth teeth?"
simply put "buckteeth"

and yes."
lol i never used that term in years...i had trouble xD
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#17 Posted by Swagga Boy (3737 posts) - - Show Bio

noob

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#18 Posted by The Scientist (614 posts) - - Show Bio

Saying Noob and not helping, arent that far appart

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#19 Posted by The_Martian (37399 posts) - - Show Bio

Starkiller should win with littledifficulty. Power wise he far exceeds Mace Windu, but Mace has experience over him. I don't think Mace's experience is enough though.

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#20 Posted by DOMINIS (164 posts) - - Show Bio

If starkiller had a hard time with Shaak Ti how would he be a match for Mace?

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#21 Posted by Lunacyde (26550 posts) - - Show Bio

im not familiar with Starkiller other than that that was suppose ot be Lukes last name in the original plot idea

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#22 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (83532 posts) - - Show Bio

Mace

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#23 Posted by The_Martian (37399 posts) - - Show Bio

What is the greatest feat Mace has pulled off? Cause Starkiller from what I've seen just far outclasses him. Starkiller has picked up an At-At and crushed it into a ball using nothing but the force, and he has pulled an entire Star Destroyer down to the ground. I know that Mace Windu has more experience, but Starkiller is highly skilled, being trained in secret by Darth Vader for the only purpose of killing Jedi. Even as just and Apprentice, Starkiller has killed several Jedi including one that was on the Jedi Council(I can't think of his name right now).

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#24 Posted by The Scientist (614 posts) - - Show Bio
The Scientist said:
"If Mace can get up close Star killer can go home, but if Star gets the first move Mace is out for the count."
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#25 Posted by King Saturn (221357 posts) - - Show Bio
Well from what I have seen of Starkiller in the Force Unleashed video game... he should beat Mace Windu.
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#26 Posted by Galen Marek (12 posts) - - Show Bio

Starkiller definately has this one down.    He has legendary saber skills, and he is also the most powerful force user to ever exist.

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#27 Posted by SwaggaB0y (5446 posts) - - Show Bio

lol people digging up my old threads ty ty I do make some good battles *bows*

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#28 Posted by G-w-D (550 posts) - - Show Bio
DOMINIS said:
"Starkiller was almost defeated by Shaak Ti, who was no where near Mace's level."

I'll admit he had a hard time but when you look at it not only was Starkiller suffering from the seeds of doubt that Shaak had planted but she was also using her Force abilities to control the plant that was the battlefield it becomes understandable.  




DOMINIS said:
"If starkiller had a hard time with Shaak Ti how would he be a match for Mace?"

It's not like Shaak Ti was a jedi Master!



DOMINIS said:
"Mace Windu is a way better duelist than Starkiller, and is on par with him as far as the force goes. I would go with Mace considering he had a better mastery of the force than Starkiller. Mace was also able to take out armies with the force alone, and his force waves are probably more powerful than Starkiller's."
Maybe Mace is better but by what margin? it's really not that great, Starkiller has trained by dueling the past Jedi masters like Kenobi, he was trained by Darth Vader who even after Mustafar is still one of the High tier saber users in his own right he went on to beat Vader add to that Shaak ti and Kota Starkiller can hold his own

Really Mace took out armies of Droids, starkiller took out entire armies of Clones which are supeiror to droids not to mention that he even fought and beat the Empire's elite trooper trained to use the force, as for Force powers did Mace ever pull a Starship out of re-entry?
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#29 Posted by Galen Marek (12 posts) - - Show Bio

Thank G-w-D.  And plus I hope everyone realizes that actaul storm troopers and clone troopers are rediculously over powered compared to droids.  1 Clone trooper is easily compareable to 15 droids.

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#30 Posted by Waffle Fries (862 posts) - - Show Bio
Galen Marek said:
"Starkiller definately has this one down.    He has legendary saber skills, and he is also the most powerful force user to ever exist."

Great potential, powerful, but certainly not the most powerful.
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#31 Posted by Galen Marek (12 posts) - - Show Bio

According to George Lucas Starkiller was the most powerful force user to ever exist.  He was also an extremely skilled and powerful lightsaber duelist, not the best but definately close to it.

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#32 Posted by Nighthunter (29571 posts) - - Show Bio

Mace Windu

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#33 Posted by BlazeEmblem (1727 posts) - - Show Bio

Mace

People overrate Starkiller imo

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#34 Posted by Emerald_General_Jai (2480 posts) - - Show Bio
@Galen Marek said:
"According to George Lucas Starkiller was the most powerful force user to ever exist.  He was also an extremely skilled and powerful lightsaber duelist, not the best but definately close to it. "

Where does he say this? B/c he has continually stated that this was Anakin, and Luke who was his father's potential. Last i checked Anakin's potential was sposed to be 200% compared to Yoda and Palpatines 100%, an he only ever made it to 80%, if that's changed please point me at  it.

Anyway, in Shatterpoint Mace states that he doesn't have the same kind of force strenght as Anakin, or Yoda, or even his main foe in the novel Kar Vastor. So on the merits of power alone yes Galen would win, but you have to factor in just how great a deulist Mace was. He's the only being other than Luke to defeat Palpatine in a deul, and despite fan speculation, Lucas has made it clear he won that fight. So i wouldn't count him out, even if Galen does win, it won't be w/o scars to remember him by.
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#35 Edited by Static Shock (52467 posts) - - Show Bio

I want Mace to win. But, I don't know. I didn't like that Force Unleashed game, but Starkiller did some pretty amazing things.

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#36 Posted by Static Shock (52467 posts) - - Show Bio
@Emerald_General_Jai said:
"So on the merits of power alone yes Galen would win, but you have to factor in just how great a deulist Mace was. He's the only being other than Luke to defeat Palpatine in a deul, and despite fan speculation, Lucas has made it clear he won that fight. So i wouldn't count him out, even if Galen does win, it won't be w/o scars to remember him by. "
When did Luke fight Palpatine? Also, I feel what you're saying about Mace's style (Vaapad), but since Starkiller seems to be more powerful with the Force, who's to say that he'll actually duel with Mace, or use his Force powers to end the fight quickly?
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#37 Posted by Stark (38 posts) - - Show Bio
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When did Luke fight Palpatine?
They fought in the comics a few times
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#38 Posted by Static Shock (52467 posts) - - Show Bio
@ Stark said:
" They fought in the comics a few times "
So, Vader never killed him in the movie?
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#39 Posted by Stark (38 posts) - - Show Bio
@Static Shock said:
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@ Stark said:
" They fought in the comics a few times "
So, Vader never killed him in the movie? "
Not sure. I think when he returned it was using someone elses body as a host.
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#40 Posted by Static Shock (52467 posts) - - Show Bio
@ Stark said:
"Not sure. I think when he returned it was using someone elses body as a host. "
OK. Thanks.
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#41 Edited by Waffle Fries (862 posts) - - Show Bio
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@ Stark said:
"Not sure. I think when he returned it was using someone elses body as a host. "
OK. Thanks."

I'm pretty sure he was a clone of Palpatine....Luke fell to the dark side and the clone Palpatine was his master...Luke finally got his head out of his ass and defeated palpatine.

In the Mace vs Palpatine fight, all the other jedi die within the first few seconds of the fight...the whole point was to show how powerful palpatine was and to show off how strong mace was that he survived and was able to win, sort of.
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#42 Posted by Static Shock (52467 posts) - - Show Bio
@Waffle Fries said:
" I'm pretty sure he was a clone of Palpatine....Luke fell to the dark side and the clone Palpatine was his master...Luke finally got his head out of his ass and defeated palpatine.In the Mace vs Palpatine fight, all the other jedi die within the first few seconds of the fight...the whole point was to show how powerful palpatine was and to show off how strong mace was that he survived and was able to win, sort of. "
Hmmm... I see.
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#43 Posted by Sinestron (199 posts) - - Show Bio

Mace is far under rated here. He was on the Jedi council, which means his experience and skills far exceeds that of Starkillers. In terms of raw force, Id say StarKiller is a bit higher, but mace has much more fine tuning and greater mastery. Swordsmith wise I would have to Mace is greater in knowledge and technique , though if I had to guess, he isnt as practiced. I think this fight would be epic, but I have to say its Mace with the win.
 

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If anything else, its fricken  Samuel L. Jackson with the force and a lightsaber. You have to at least admit that that is one bad  M****r F****r

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#44 Posted by lagoon_boy (11337 posts) - - Show Bio
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#45 Posted by G-w-D (550 posts) - - Show Bio
@Sinestron said:
"Mace is far under rated here. He was on the Jedi council, which means his experience and skills far exceeds that of Starkillers. In terms of raw force, Id say StarKiller is a bit higher, but mace has much more fine tuning and greater mastery. Swordsmith wise I would have to Mace is greater in knowledge and technique , though if I had to guess, he isnt as practiced. I think this fight would be epic, but I have to say its Mace with the win. P.S.If anything else, its fricken  Samuel L. Jackson with the force and a lightsaber. You have to at least admit that that is one bad  M****r F****r "

Starkiller was personally trained from childhood to be a Jedi destroyer by one of the galaxies all time powerhouses who had imtimate knowledge of the Jedi concening their abilities, he killed Shaak Ti when she had the homefield advantage and then went on to beat Vader himself

As for Force mastery Starkiller was greatly honed in the Dark side abilites admittedly other non attack powers wheren't as impressive 






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@ Stark said:
" They fought in the comics a few times "
So, Vader never killed him in the movie?"

During his life Palpatine  searched for immortality the way he acheived this is by creating clones of himself and putting them in stasis when Vader destroyed his true body his soul in time migrated and found his clones long story  


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When did Luke fight Palpatine? Also, I feel what you're saying about Mace's style (Vaapad), but since Starkiller seems to be more powerful with the Force, who's to say that he'll actually duel with Mace, or use his Force powers to end the fight quickly?"

Most famously in Dark Empire
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#46 Posted by Winduizcool (891 posts) - - Show Bio
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im not familiar with Starkiller other than that that was suppose ot be Lukes last name in the original plot ... [more]
I totally agree. I will admit Starkiller is powerful with the Force. But so is Mace Windu. He has Force Crush, Shatterpoint, (which I'm sure u guys don't no this but shatterpoint isn't just shattering droids and glass but it is a way 2 find a weakness in a person) and Vaapad. Still if this was a Force only battle Starkiller would win. But when Mace has Force powers which I'll say comes at least half way, and then the lightsaber skills, I'd say Mace Windu. It's a really close fite though.
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Winduizcool said:
Lunacyde said: im not familiar with Starkiller other than that that was suppose ot be Lukes last name in the ... [more]
starkiller would win this, lucas has said himself that his force is above anyone (the guy took out a star destroyer with nothing else) his duel skills are lower but not by much then mace. and most of the time a jedi battle comes down to who can use the force the best.
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#48 Posted by Winduizcool (891 posts) - - Show Bio
Galen Marek said:
According to George Lucas Starkiller was the most powerful force user to ever exist.  He was also an extremely skilled ... [more]
According 2 George Lucas Starkiller never did exist.
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#49 Posted by DC_Marvel_1000 (12318 posts) - - Show Bio
Winduizcool said:
Galen Marek said: According to George Lucas Starkiller was the most powerful force user to ever exist.  He was also ... [more]
even though he said the game is canon and that starkiller in the strongest force user.
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#50 Posted by G-w-D (550 posts) - - Show Bio
Winduizcool said:
Lunacyde said: im not familiar with Starkiller other than that that was suppose ot be Lukes last name in the ... [more]

You're Overestimating Mace and his Vaapad

Starkiller's skill in shien, Juyo, Ataru, and Djem so match andmaybe even surpass Mace's Lightsaber skills combined with his extensive mastery of Dark side Force powers he can beat Mace.

Althougth truth be told the starkiller That wins this would be End Malek who was at harmony with himself, Any of the earlier ones would be defeated by Mace because with his Shatterpoint ability he would be a bad oponent for Galen