Starfire and Raven vs Captain Marvel and Scarlet Witch

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#3  Edited By rajjarsalt

Full Power/Peak? The Scarlet Witch lets loose with Chthon and calls it a day.

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Raven is a great match for Scarlet Witch, especially at peak levels. However, Carol > Starfire, so Raven would get overwhelmed by Wanda and Carol.

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@geekryan said:

Raven is a great match for Scarlet Witch, especially at peak levels. However, Carol > Starfire, so Raven would get overwhelmed by Wanda and Carol.

Starfire peak is the herald of Darkseid with the power of several hypernova

Keep in mind a regular supernova is can range from large star to solar system level.

One hypernova is supposed to be 10s-100sx of a supernova.

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Wanda and Raven can go either way to my knowledge but Carol beats starfire

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@geekryan said:

Raven is a great match for Scarlet Witch, especially at peak levels. However, Carol > Starfire, so Raven would get overwhelmed by Wanda and Carol.

Starfire peak is the herald of Darkseid with the power of several hypernova

Keep in mind a regular supernova is can range from large star to solar system level.

One hypernova is supposed to be 10s-100sx of a supernova.

Then that's not peak, that's amped lol.

Anyways, peak Binary still beats Herald of Darkseid Starfire.

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@kasya_carey: Do you mean peak as in House of M vs Unkindness or just peak base levels?

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Yea....Starfire just drags her team down here. Some version of composite Donna might be the better match up.....as is Starfire is either underwhelming or (if we believe her herald of Darkseid hype over feats) is so powerful it's a mismatch in the opposite direction.

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@geekryan said:

Raven is a great match for Scarlet Witch, especially at peak levels. However, Carol > Starfire, so Raven would get overwhelmed by Wanda and Carol.

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Probably the Marvel team

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@koays said:

Yea....Starfire just drags her team down here. Some version of composite Donna might be the better match up.....as is Starfire is either underwhelming or (if we believe her herald of Darkseid hype over feats) is so powerful it's a mismatch in the opposite direction.

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I mean Orion was killed eight times and it was shown multiple of those times SF killed him.
Orion is the same person who just tanked a multi solar system level explosion head on.

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@koays said:

Yea....Starfire just drags her team down here. Some version of composite Donna might be the better match up.....as is Starfire is either underwhelming or (if we believe her herald of Darkseid hype over feats) is so powerful it's a mismatch in the opposite direction.

Starfire has always been better than Donna. & Recently we had Beast World Black Adam running from her. But TBH I do not see either Kory or Carol having an impact on this match with Peak Power Raven & Scarlet

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@kasya_carey: What do you mean by peak here? Do you mean Peak of their own powers? In that case Unkindness or Living Darkhold/Chthon wouldn't count. But if it's peak with amps/absorbing outside powers etc then Unkindness Raven beats Darkhold Wanda with some difficulty and absolutely negs the other two.

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@samgee said:
@koays said:

Yea....Starfire just drags her team down here. Some version of composite Donna might be the better match up.....as is Starfire is either underwhelming or (if we believe her herald of Darkseid hype over feats) is so powerful it's a mismatch in the opposite direction.

Starfire has always been better than Donna. & Recently we had Beast World Black Adam running from her. But TBH I do not see either Kory or Carol having an impact on this match with Peak Power Raven & Scarlet

It's why I said composite Donna.

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@geekryan: I mean it’s still a peak version of her canon self. Just like Wanda is basically amped too.

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@geekryan: I mean it’s still a peak version of her canon self. Just like Wanda is basically amped too.

So then you should specify versions because peak is kind of vague, especially with characters like these who have different versions/amps/peaks.

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#18  Edited By destinyman75

Wanda >>> Raven>>> starfish powerful is still the weakest link

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Darkhold Wanda is not beating Unkindness Raven lol. Not even close.

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#20  Edited By BigBaby
@thedevil98 said:

@kasya_carey: What do you mean by peak here? Do you mean Peak of their own powers? In that case Unkindness or Living Darkhold/Chthon wouldn't count. But if it's peak with amps/absorbing outside powers etc then Unkindness Raven beats Darkhold Wanda with some difficulty and absolutely negs the other two.

Darkhold Wanda's not an amped version. She didn't gain any additional power, she's actually lost power when sealing Chthon. Orlando's said this ten times on Twitter and it's printed in the comics...her most powerful version is still HoM, and Darkhold Wanda's just base Wanda nerfed.

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#21  Edited By totu

Peak Starfire is during JL Odyssey and that version is more likely an overkill here. Still, her not amped version is still described by narration as star level, and lately she did thrown down and made to run away scared a bloodlusted, not holding back Black Adam. So, I think Starfire can hold her own pretty well against Captain Marvel.

Raven will decisively beat Wanda however, and then turn to the other two and help Starfire and take down Cap Marvel too.

Unkindness Raven is well above HoM Wanda, who couldn't even eliminate all the mutants iirc. Raven set of powers allows her to absorb and consume others, its one of her abilities so Unkindness is her peak, and she get there by using her own power and abilities.

Even as "normal" Raven, half powered too as well (it was only her dark side), she is fast and powerful enough to outreact and eliminate Hermes, the god of speed, before he could do anything, and I don't see Wanda anywhere fast enough to react to any of Raven attacks.

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@geekryan said:

Raven is a great match for Scarlet Witch, especially at peak levels. However, Carol > Starfire, so Raven would get overwhelmed by Wanda and Carol.

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@geekryan: I mean it’s still a peak version of her canon self. Just like Wanda is basically amped too.

Wanda isn't amped.