The fight takes place in New York City. fight is to the death only unless stated otherwise. Each person with weapons is fully equipped.
Darth Vader vs War Machine
General Grievous vs Spiderman
Darth Maul vs Gambit
Mace Windu vs Iron Fist
Yoda vs Invisible Woman
Boba Fett vs Black Panther
Jango Fett vs Punisher
Obi-Wan vs Storm
Luke Skywalker vs Venom
Count Dooku vs Electro
Aura Sing vs Deadpool (KO)
Durge (KO) vs Iron Patriot
Ahsoka Tano vs Wolverine
Darth Sidious vs Hulk
Starkiller vs Iron Man
Star Wars vs Marvel
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Darth Vader vs War Machine
General Grievous vs Spiderman
Darth Maul vs Gambit
Mace Windu vs Iron Fist
Yoda vs Invisible Woman
Boba Fett vs Black Panther
Jango Fett vs Punisher
Obi-Wan vs Storm
Luke Skywalker vs Venom (Spitestomp.)
Count Dooku vs Electro
Aura Sing vs Deadpool (KO)
Durge (KO) vs Iron Patriot
Ahsoka Tano vs Wolverine
Darth Sidious vs Hulk (Spitestomp.)
Starkiller vs Iron Man
Venom
Hulk
Gambit
Deadpool
Black Panther
ElectroStorm
Iron Man
War machine
Wolverine
These are the only marvel characters that would have a chance winning, but with force crush power, mind control, and light sabers, the Star wars crew stomps most likely...................................................
Darth Vader vs War Machine
General Grievous vs Spiderman
Darth Maul vs Gambit
Mace Windu vs Iron Fist
Yoda vs Invisible Woman
Boba Fett vs Black Panther
Jango Fett vs Punisher
Obi-Wan vs Storm
Luke Skywalker vs Venom
Count Dooku vs Electro
Aura Sing vs Deadpool (KO)
Durge (KO) vs Iron Patriot
Ahsoka Tano vs Wolverine
Darth Sidious vs Hulk
Starkiller vs Iron Man
" @Silver2467: Every team member is fully equipped. "The reason I said that is because Panther was depowered recently and lacks vibranium. With his vibranium suit, he could possibly win, but without it, I would give it to Boba.
General Grievous vs Spiderman
Darth Maul vs Gambit
Mace Windu vs Iron Fist
Yoda vs Invisible Woman
Boba Fett vs Black Panther
Jango Fett vs Punisher
Obi-Wan vs Storm
Luke Skywalker vs Venom
Count Dooku vs Electro
Aura Sing vs Deadpool (KO)-don''t know Aura Sing
Durge (KO) vs Iron Patriot
Ahsoka Tano vs Wolverine
Darth Sidious vs Hulk (Sidious slaughters Hulk)
Starkiller vs Iron Man
Why do people think Luke can take Venom or that Windu would beat Iron Fist?
Darth Sidious slaughters the Hulk...REALLY?
Also Yoda beating Sue Richards? I highly effin doubt that.
Darth Vader vs War Machine
General Grievous vs Spiderman
Darth Maul vs Gambit
Mace Windu vs Iron Fist
Yoda vs Invisible Woman
Boba Fett vs Black Panther (Boba if he had prep and BP didn't)
Jango Fett vs Punisher
Obi-Wan vs Storm
Luke Skywalker vs Venom
Count Dooku vs Electro
Aura Sing vs Deadpool (KO)
Durge (KO) vs Iron Patriot (maybe)
Ahsoka Tano vs Wolverine
Darth Sidious vs Hulk
Starkiller vs Iron Man
@Vance Astro said:
" Why do people think Luke can take Venom or that Windu would beat Iron Fist? Darth Sidious slaughters the Hulk...REALLY? "
Luke is faster than Venom, capable of moving at speeds faster than the eye can see (including the eye of a Force sensitive) - he once looked like he had 20 lightsabers. He can teleport objects. He was capable of rebuilding and later destroying a fortress using only TK. Once cast an illusion that only one person could see (the illusion was that they were being attacked by an entire fleet). Windu also moves faster than Iron Fist.
As for Palpatine....
" Why do people think Luke can take Venom or that Windu would beat Iron Fist? Darth Sidious slaughters the Hulk...REALLY? Also Yoda beating Sue Richards? I highly effin doubt that. "Because these are EU versions, not movie versions. I.E., they are significantly more powerful.
" @Vance Astro said:That doesn't answer the questions...." Why do people think Luke can take Venom or that Windu would beat Iron Fist? Darth Sidious slaughters the Hulk...REALLY? Also Yoda beating Sue Richards? I highly effin doubt that. "Because these are EU versions, not movie versions. I.E., they are significantly more powerful. "
@JediXMan said:
Any scans or proof for the rest of this.I mean Wolverine has proven to move faster than the eye can see and venom is faster than him.Wolverine has slashed characters so fast that they didn't even see him move.Rebuilding a fortress with TK...i don't see how that will help him here or how that's even an incredible feat.Same for mace windu..I can show you scans of iron fist catching bullets and things of that nature.
@Vance Astro said:" Why do people think Luke can take Venom or that Windu would beat Iron Fist? Darth Sidious slaughters the Hulk...REALLY? "
Luke is faster than Venom, capable of moving at speeds faster than the eye can see (including the eye of a Force sensitive) - he once looked like he had 20 lightsabers. He can teleport objects. He was capable of rebuilding and later destroying a fortress using only TK. Once cast an illusion that only one person could see (the illusion was that they were being attacked by an entire fleet). Windu also moves faster than Iron Fist.
As for Palpatine....
Also nobody addressed why they think yoda will beat invisible woman.....
Aside from his use of the force..i don't really see anything here that would be threatening to iron fist." @Vance Astro:
a video of windu that shows him to how powerful he really is
"
Fair enough. Let me clarify." @Silver2467 said:
That doesn't answer the questions...." @Vance Astro said:
" Why do people think Luke can take Venom or that Windu would beat Iron Fist? Darth Sidious slaughters the Hulk...REALLY? Also Yoda beating Sue Richards? I highly effin doubt that. "Because these are EU versions, not movie versions. I.E., they are significantly more powerful. "
For Sidious, read this.
http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/silver2467/darth-sidious-respect/87-63101/
For Luke, he has telekinetically pushed a few guards against a wall so hard that their torsos burst, rebuilt/destroyed a fortress, supported the weight of starships, held in place/moved a black hole, collapsed an AT-AT, and knocked over a rancor with a gesture, among other feats. He knows abilities such as Protection, Absorption, Deflection, and Barrier that have allowed him to catch blaster bolts in his hands, tank AT-AT blaster bolts, deflect sprays of lava, walk across lava, and withstand heavy impact forces. As for speed, Luke has deflected dozes of blaster bolts in all directions with his lightsaber (before RotS, by the way), dominated Lumiya with his speed, kept up with Caedus while injured, held out against Palpatine's combat speed, moved too fast for any of the Jedi in his Order to notice him (in other words, moving too fast for characters with super speed to notice), has fought fast enough that he appeared to have 20 lightsabers, and other speed feats. Luke also has a heavy amount of versatility, such as his various telepathic abilities (Illusion, Mind Control, Confusion, hypnosis, sleep inducement, etc.), invisibility by use of Force Cloak (he once turned a kilometer and half long ship, the Vagabond, invisible), teleportation by use of Fold Space, immovability (Luke once made himself so immovable that not even a black hole could move him), Precognition, Shatterpoint, the ability to see through walls, Healing, machine shut down/dismantling by use of Ionize, and several other abilities. Luke would wreck Venom.
" @Vance Astro said:Fair enough. Let me clarify." @Silver2467 said:
" @Vance Astro said:That doesn't answer the questions...." Why do people think Luke can take Venom or that Windu would beat Iron Fist? Darth Sidious slaughters the Hulk...REALLY? Also Yoda beating Sue Richards? I highly effin doubt that. "Because these are EU versions, not movie versions. I.E., they are significantly more powerful. "
For Sidious, read this.
http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/silver2467/darth-sidious-respect/87-63101/
For Luke, he has telekinetically pushed a few guards against a wall so hard that their torsos burst, rebuilt/destroyed a fortress, supported the weight of starships, held in place/moved a black hole, collapsed an AT-AT, and knocked over a rancor with a gesture, among other feats. He knows abilities such as Protection, Absorption, Deflection, and Barrier that have allowed him to catch blaster bolts in his hands, tank AT-AT blaster bolts, deflect sprays of lava, walk across lava, and withstand heavy impact forces. As for speed, Luke has deflected dozes of blaster bolts in all directions with his lightsaber (before RotS, by the way), dominated Lumiya with his speed, kept up with Caedus while injured, held out against Palpatine's combat speed, moved too fast for any of the Jedi in his Order to notice him (in other words, moving too fast for characters with super speed to notice), has fought fast enough that he appeared to have 20 lightsabers, and other speed feats. Luke also has a heavy amount of versatility, such as his various telepathic abilities (Illusion, Mind Control, Confusion, hypnosis, sleep inducement, etc.), invisibility by use of Force Cloak (he once turned a kilometer and half long ship, the Vegabond, invisible), teleportation by use of Fold Space, immovability (Luke once made himself so immovable that not even a black hole could move him), Precognition, Shatterpoint, the ability to see through walls, Healing, machine shut down/dismantling by use of Ionize, and several other abilities. Luke would wreck Venom. "
this is the luke i wanna see in a movie
Yes, I have I meant that don't think that they would necessarily stomp like some people said.
And I think Iron Fist would beat Mace Windu
" @Vance Astro: Most of the feats I mentioned come from novels, so no I do not have scans. PS: He also destroyed a fortress with TK. "Well their levels of power have to at least be stated.We can't just assume that someone is faster than another character just to be doing it.
@Silver2467 said:
Fair enough. Let me clarify.What about Mace & Yoda?
For Sidious, read this.
http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/silver2467/darth-sidious-respect/87-63101/
For Luke, he has telekinetically pushed a few guards against a wall so hard that their torsos burst, rebuilt/destroyed a fortress, supported the weight of starships, held in place/moved a black hole, collapsed an AT-AT, and knocked over a rancor with a gesture, among other feats. He knows abilities such as Protection, Absorption, Deflection, and Barrier that have allowed him to catch blaster bolts in his hands, tank AT-AT blaster bolts, deflect sprays of lava, walk across lava, and withstand heavy impact forces. As for speed, Luke has deflected dozes of blaster bolts in all directions with his lightsaber (before RotS, by the way), dominated Lumiya with his speed, kept up with Caedus while injured, held out against Palpatine's combat speed, moved too fast for any of the Jedi in his Order to notice him (in other words, moving too fast for characters with super speed to notice), has fought fast enough that he appeared to have 20 lightsabers, and other speed feats. Luke also has a heavy amount of versatility, such as his various telepathic abilities (Illusion, Mind Control, Confusion, hypnosis, sleep inducement, etc.), invisibility by use of Force Cloak (he once turned a kilometer and half long ship, the Vagabond, invisible), teleportation by use of Fold Space, immovability (Luke once made himself so immovable that not even a black hole could move him), Precognition, Shatterpoint, the ability to see through walls, Healing, machine shut down/dismantling by use of Ionize, and several other abilities. Luke would wreck Venom. "
I agree with vance i doubt Mace could beat current Iron Fist but i think Luke could wreck Venom .
Probably a majority for EU , you've put the best of Sar wars against the mediocrity of Marvel , Luke & Sidious are two of the most powerful in all of Sar wars going against Venom ? and admittedly Hulk may not be mediocre but JediXman's scan has shown Sidious' bfr abilities .
Darth Vader vs War Machine
General Grievous vs Spider-Man
Darth Maul vs Gambit
Mace Windu vs Iron Fist
Yoda vs Invisible Woman
Boba Fett vs Black Panther
Jango Fett vs Punisher
Obi-Wan vs Storm
Luke Skywalker vs Venom
Count Dooku vs Electro
Aura Sing vs Deadpool (KO)
Durge (KO) vs Iron Patriot
Ahsoka Tano vs Wolverine
Darth Sidious vs Hulk
Starkiller vs Iron Man
Darth Vader vs War Machine
General Grievous vs Spiderman
Darth Maul vs Gambit
Mace Windu vs Iron Fist
Yoda vs Invisible Woman
Boba Fett vs Black Panther
Jango Fett vs Punisher
Obi-Wan vs Storm
Luke Skywalker vs Venom
Count Dooku vs Electro - Could go either way
Aura Sing vs Deadpool (KO)
Durge (KO) vs Iron Patriot
Ahsoka Tano vs Wolverine - idk.
Darth Sidious vs Hulk
Starkiller vs Iron Man - Could go either way
"This, Couldnt have said it better my self.
Darth Vader vs War Machine
General Grievous vs Spiderman
Darth Maul vs Gambit
Mace Windu vs Iron Fist
Yoda vs Invisible Woman
Boba Fett vs Black Panther
Jango Fett vs Punisher
Obi-Wan vs Storm
Luke Skywalker vs Venom
Count Dooku vs Electro
Aura Sing vs Deadpool (KO)
Durge (KO) vs Iron Patriot
Ahsoka Tano vs Wolverine
Darth Sidious vs Hulk
Starkiller vs Iron Man "
" @Montaq said:"This, Couldnt have said it better my self. "
Darth Vader vs War Machine
General Grievous vs Spiderman
Darth Maul vs Gambit
Mace Windu vs Iron Fist
Yoda vs Invisible Woman
Boba Fett vs Black Panther
Jango Fett vs Punisher
Obi-Wan vs Storm
Luke Skywalker vs Venom
Count Dooku vs Electro
Aura Sing vs Deadpool (KO)
Durge (KO) vs Iron Patriot
Ahsoka Tano vs Wolverine
Darth Sidious vs Hulk
Starkiller vs Iron Man "
Thank you
LOL @ how people think Vader can beat War Machine and Starkiller can beat Iron Man.
@Vance Astro said:
Yoda and Windu are extremely fast, first of all. You saw a video of Windu in the Clone Wars show. Yoda has similar speed feats to Windu. During his duel with Tyranus, Yoda's lightsaber was creating numerous afterimages, he has blitzed multiple droids, he has deflected dozens of blaster bolts with his lightsaber easily, was described in his duel with Palpatine as "a tornado of feet and fist and blades" (Yoda is not as fast as Sidious is, but the fact that he was able to fight is speaks volumes), and he has other speed feats. For strength, Yoda has been able to throw melee strikes with superhuman force and carried a massive cannon in a crate on his back, seemingly for miles. Yoda's telekinetic feats have allowed him to crush and break through durable surfaces; send more than a dozen enemies flying with one Push; lift and move starships during combat, sometimes doing so in order to crash enemy fighters into one another; was effortlessly throwing senate pods during his duel with Palpatine (in the EU, not the movie, obviously); knows Lightsaber Throw; and has simulated telekinetic lightsaber combat, as a few examples. Sue's shields are resistant/immune to psi-based powers, but Force-derived Telekinesis and Telepathy are not psi-based. They are simply an application of Force energies. So, it could be argued that he could penetrate her shield telekinetically (considering the power he can generate from his telekinetic bursts). Even if this were to fail, Yoda can simply blitz Sue.What about Mace & Yoda? "
As for Iron Fist, I read The Immortal Iron Fist annual; so I know what instance you are referring to with his catching a bullet. But that really is not sufficient. Both Yoda and Windu fight faster than bullets. And even if they were only equal to or slightly slower, Danny only caught one bullet. He would not be prepared to avoid numerous saber slashes in multiple directions. Windu has speed feats such as being invisible to Anakin during to his duel with Sidious (Anakin is very fast as well, by the way), fighting so fast that he appeared to have over a dozen lightsabers when he only had one, matching Kar Vastor's combat speed, matching Tyranus' combat speed, holding his own against Sidious (Palpatine appeared as a blur to Windu in their duel, which is not a low showing if you know how fast Sidious is, but Windu still managed to fight against him), and he has other such speed feats. Danny is not fast enough or resilient enough match Windu.
" ??? C'mon. You need to atleast admit that Spidey can take Grievous. The robot with no force powers? He could have 16 arms, Spidey can still dodge them.Grievous has matched and, in some cases, superseded the speed of Jedi before. He has also managed to defeat and kill Jedi in the past; so his possessing no Force powers really changes nothing. Grievous has super strength, as well (although lower than Spidey) and far more skill and tactical understanding than Spider-Man does.
" LOL @ how people think Vader can beat War Machine and Starkiller can beat Iron Man.Yoda blitzing Sue Storm is by far the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in any thread ever.
@Vance Astro said:Yoda and Windu are extremely fast, first of all. You saw a video of Windu in the Clone Wars show. Yoda has similar speed feats to Windu. During his duel with Tyranus, Yoda's lightsaber was creating numerous afterimages, he has blitzed multiple droids, he has deflected dozens of blaster bolts with his lightsaber easily, was described in his duel with Palpatine as "a tornado of feet and fist and blades" (Yoda is not as fast as Sidious is, but the fact that he was able to fight is speaks volumes), and he has other speed feats. For strength, Yoda has been able to throw melee strikes with superhuman force and carried a massive cannon in a crate on his back, seemingly for miles. Yoda's telekinetic feats have allowed him to crush and break through durable surfaces; send more than a dozen enemies flying with one Push; lift and move starships during combat, sometimes doing so in order to crash enemy fighters into one another; was effortlessly throwing senate pods during his duel with Palpatine (in the EU, not the movie, obviously); knows Lightsaber Throw; and has simulated telekinetic lightsaber combat, as a few examples. Sue's shields are resistant/immune to psi-based powers, but Force-derived Telekinesis and Telepathy are not psi-based. They are simply an application of Force energies. So, it could be argued that he could penetrate her shield telekinetically (considering the power he can generate from his telekinetic bursts). Even if this were to fail, Yoda can simply blitz Sue. As for Iron Fist, I read The Immortal Iron Fist annual; so I know what instance you are referring to with his catching a bullet. But that really is not sufficient. Both Yoda and Windu fight faster than bullets. And even if they were only equal to or slightly slower, Danny only caught one bullet. He would not be prepared to avoid numerous saber slashes in multiple directions. Windu has speed feats such as being invisible to Anakin during to his duel with Sidious (Anakin is very fast as well, by the way), fighting so fast that he appeared to have over a dozen lightsabers when he only had one, matching Kar Vastor's combat speed, matching Tyranus' combat speed, holding his own against Sidious (Palpatine appeared as a blur to Windu in their duel, which is not a low showing if you know how fast Sidious is, but Windu still managed to fight against him), and he has other such speed feats. Danny is not fast enough or resilient enough match Windu. "What about Mace & Yoda? "
" @Silver2467: That may be so. But Spidey's taken on bigger threats than Greivous. Including speeds faster than eyesight. Not to mention, Jedi avoid blows due to intense training. Spidey actually see's these blows before Grievous can throw them. "None of this is really true. First of all, in the EU, one of the most common descriptions for speed is the inability of spectators to even see the motions of a given Jedi or Sith. This is not uncommon and is something Grievous can replicate. Second, Jedi avoid and deflects attacks because their reflexes and perceptions are accelerated through Force Speed to the extent that they can register an oncoming threat, react fast enough to save themselves from the assault, and in many cases, deflect it back at their attacker. So, yes, they can see it. How could they deflect as many blaster bolts as they do, without effort no less, if they could not even see them? Add to that the fact that they do not simply dodge projectiles, they actually deflect them, and their reaction time feats can easily outweigh most Marvel/DC street levelers. Grievous consistently manages to match Jedi's combat speed (and some of these Jedi are faster than Spider-Man, by the way).
Yoda blitzing Sue Storm is by far the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in any thread ever. "Could you at least present a counter argument?
" StarWars characters pwns in every match-up...... Nice set up thoguh by the OP.... "Not every match up.
" @Vance Astro said:Sue Storm's reaction time is good enough that she can put up a forcefield before Yoda can do anything.Unless Yoda is faster than Storm or Ragnarok's lightning,Gladiator,Namor,or Hyperstorm.Yoda blitzing Sue Storm is by far the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in any thread ever. "Could you at least present a counter argument? "
" @Lantern Prime said:" StarWars characters pwns in every match-up...... Nice set up thoguh by the OP.... "Not every match up. "
MAybe not everone but 80%......... Sue Storm has nothing for Yoda... that you have to admit....
" @Silver2467 said:You don't actually believe this." @Lantern Prime said:MAybe not everone but 80%......... Sue Storm has nothing for Yoda... that you have to admit.... "" StarWars characters pwns in every match-up...... Nice set up thoguh by the OP.... "Not every match up. "
"@spartan92 said:Aside from his use of the force..i don't really see anything here that would be threatening to iron fist. "" @Vance Astro:
a video of windu that shows him to how powerful he really is
"
LOL come one..... YOu really believe that.... And thats apart of the Expanded Universe.....
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