Star Wars Tournament: Top 50 Most Powerful Force Users

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Could go either way. Hammer disabling Kyp was rather impressive though suspect.

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Hamner always struck me as more administrator than warrior. I believe he contended with Kyp well... but Kyp's proficiency is murky as hell.

Leaning Kazdan right now, open to arguments for Hamner.

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@azronger:

He flicked his wrist, and Corran went sailing across the hangar back toward Kenth and the other Jedi. It was a particularly insulting dismissal, since Corran could not respond in kind, having never been able to master the skill of Force telekinesis.

The same was not true of Kenth Hamner. He extended his arm, and Kyp flew back against the hull of his StealthX and remained there, pinned.

Source: Dark Nest II: The Unseen Queen

And proceeds to keep Kyp there against his wishes for a part of the proceeding conversation.

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#2155  Edited By Azronger

@greysentinel365: I see. Not sure how impressive restrained Kyp is though to quantify that feat.

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@azronger:

Hence the phrase

Could go either way. Hammer disabling Kyp was rather impressive though suspect.

IIRC a weaker Kyp than the one Hammer pinned one-shotted a leviathan. But yeah it's hard to tell.

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@richard96: Kazdan was more than a match for Galen

He specifically is described as outpacing him

Paratus lunged while the apprentice was momentarily distracted. The pike left a shallow cut down his left forearm before he could repulse the strange creature's attack. Part flesh and part machine, the renegade Jedi Master was proficient with the Force, and quick with it as well. Every blow the apprentice tried to make was instantly blocked by either end of the whirling pike. As fast as he lunged or retreated, the mechanical legs outpaced him. Paratus hopped around the dilapidated chamber like a deranged jumping spider.

TFU Novel

And also implied to be quicker in use of the force than Galen. Add that to Vader straight up saying he is more powerful and the fact that he was also simultaneously controlling an army of Junk Golems and had just taken damage from having his junk golem beaten? Oh yeah. It totally was a fair fight. As for Galen's supposed "win" against Paratus. Context people.

Kazdan Paratus moaned as each junk Master fell, mourning them as though they were actually alive. When the last one went down, he was actually weeping.

TFU

Kasdan was an emotional wreck due to Galen destroying the council mannequins. And clearly not in fighting shape.

Galen did not legitimately defeat Paratus.

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@richard96: He wasn't angry. He was weeping on the floor.

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@richard96: Galen ragdolled him while he was crying, threw him around a bit and then crushed him under debris,

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Kaz is looking more and more appealing....

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Shall I put it to votes?

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Yes... Go to vote

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#2167  Edited By killbilly  Moderator

@richard96 said:

Mah, Paratus never displayed all this supposed power in his fight with Galen. Remember that he lost to an astronomically pre prime Galen, one who beat Shaak ti narrowly via a good amount of luck and had trouble with shadow guards...

Still going with kenth

Hope your taking into account Galen's disadvantages there...

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@richard96: Kazdan was more than a match for Galen

He specifically is described as outpacing him

Paratus lunged while the apprentice was momentarily distracted. The pike left a shallow cut down his left forearm before he could repulse the strange creature's attack. Part flesh and part machine, the renegade Jedi Master was proficient with the Force, and quick with it as well. Every blow the apprentice tried to make was instantly blocked by either end of the whirling pike. As fast as he lunged or retreated, the mechanical legs outpaced him. Paratus hopped around the dilapidated chamber like a deranged jumping spider.

TFU Novel

And also implied to be quicker in use of the force than Galen. Add that to Vader straight up saying he is more powerful and the fact that he was also simultaneously controlling an army of Junk Golems and had just taken damage from having his junk golem beaten? Oh yeah. It totally was a fair fight. As for Galen's supposed "win" against Paratus. Context people.

Kazdan Paratus moaned as each junk Master fell, mourning them as though they were actually alive. When the last one went down, he was actually weeping.

TFU

Kasdan was an emotional wreck due to Galen destroying the council mannequins. And clearly not in fighting shape.

Galen did not legitimately defeat Paratus.

A few things to note here.

Galen had expended a decent amount of energy prior to the fight powering the hyperdrive engines of an enormous ship.

Paratus isn't shown to have taken damage from his junk golem's defeat.

Paratus wasn't fighting Galen while the Council replicas were attacking him as you claimed.

Context people.

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#2168  Edited By dark-sith123

I'm not even sure anymore.

It might depend on what iteration of Kyp it was that Kenth pinned with the Force.

I'm not so sure anymore.

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#2169 killbilly  Moderator

I have no idea either honestly. Really don't know what to make of the Kyp feat.

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I will take Paratus if we are Voting

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This is the most even match so far I think.

Gonna go with Kazdan

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I'll throw Kazdan Paratus into the hat.

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I stay with hammer

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Paratus

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Paratus

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Paratus.

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Very, very close, but I'll just go with Kenth.

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I didn't really see much being argued for Kenth, so Kazdan gets my vote. The pinning of Kyp against a wall doesn't by itself prove too much about Kenth's power, in my opinion.

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Paratus.

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Kenth

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Paratus.

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Kenth.

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Would honestly love to see a case for Ki-Adi.

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Ommin

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"All characters are in their peak, unamped iterations,"

Ommin dies as soon as the match begins. RIP.

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@azronger said:

@cuckedcurry: @i_like_swords: Could you elaborate?

Ommin died as soon as Nadd stopped empowering him. All of his showings are of him on a nexus and amped by Nadd, without that he's just an ambiguously Force sensitive vegetable held together by an exoskeleton.

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#2196  Edited By fairtrade

inb4 'but nexus' and 'amp'

Mundi gets the life drained from him before he ignites his lightsaber.

The only way to make King Ommin viable in a versus battle is to keep him the way he's always shown 'fighting'... with an amp from Nadd. He isn't ever going to be at another location.

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#2197  Edited By Azronger

@i_like_swords: Where's it stated Nadd is actively empowering him continuously? It was Ommin who summonned him from Chaos, and obviously he can't do anything on his own there. I think the TotJ audio drama even states that he can't manifest his power in his incorporeal state IIRC.

The nexus point is a fair one, though.

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"All characters are in their peak, unamped iterations,"

Ommin dies as soon as the match begins. RIP.

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