Star Lord(MCU)vs Iron Man(MCU) *spoilers*

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#1  Edited By BloodsunXL

Round 1: Quill has standard gear and Stark has Mark V suitcase armor.

Round 2: Quill has the Celestial Powers and Tony has Mark 44 Hulkbuster (No spare parts).

Rules

Each have No prep

Bloodlusted

Takes place on Ego's planet at 100 ft apart.

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#2  Edited By laughingbatman

Round 1: Iron Man wins

Round 2: Quill Pac-Man eats Iron Man

Edit: To add to round 2 notes, Quill is immortal. He was taking hits from Ego and coming right back. Hulkbuster isn't putting him down.

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Round 1: Iron Man wins

Round 2: Quill Pac-Man eats Iron Man

Edit: To add to round 2 notes, Quill is immortal. He was taking hits from Ego and coming right back. Hulkbuster isn't putting him down.

Exactly what he said.

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Round 1: Iron Man wins

Round 2: Quill Pac-Man eats Iron Man

Edit: To add to round 2 notes, Quill is immortal. He was taking hits from Ego and coming right back. Hulkbuster isn't putting him down.

This

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Round 1: Iron Man wins

Round 2: Quill Pac-Man eats Iron Man

Edit: To add to round 2 notes, Quill is immortal. He was taking hits from Ego and coming right back. Hulkbuster isn't putting him down.

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Round 1: Iron Man wins

Round 2: Quill Pac-Man eats Iron Man

Edit: To add to round 2 notes, Quill is immortal. He was taking hits from Ego and coming right back. Hulkbuster isn't putting him down.

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#7  Edited By AngelJax

Peter both rounds

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peter could win both rounds. Round one is at least close though. Two isnt as much.

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@g2_ said:

Round 1: Iron Man wins

Round 2: Quill Pac-Man eats Iron Man

Edit: To add to round 2 notes, Quill is immortal. He was taking hits from Ego and coming right back. Hulkbuster isn't putting him down.

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Hmm. Question. Since round 2 specifies Quill has Celestial powers, I’m guessing this might be viewed as GotG 1 Quill for round 1 and GotG 2 Quill for round 2.

But, if memory serves, Quill didn’t acquire Celestial powers in GotG 2; he always had them and just didn’t know it. Which means that in GotG, even if he didn’t use the “active” powers, his “passive” powers would have been there, like any buffs to strength and durability might have come with his half-Celestial heritage. Would these have been enough to withstand Stark’s attacks? I’m guessing it’s probably speculation, but curious if anyone has insight on that.

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Star-Lord both rounds

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Quill both rounds.

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Quill can survive city busting attacks landing 30 feet from him.

Even without the celestial powers he stomps.

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@greysentinel365: “Quill can survive city busting attacks landing 30 feet from him.”

When in the world did he do that?

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@thevivas: I think he means the asteroid from the moon hitting the ground and throwing him, Mantis, and Drax up into the air

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@thevivas: @stormdriven: Indeed.

Even if we are conservative and say the meteor was only 40m long a rock that big at reentry speed would vaporise everything in 4 kilometres.

And Quill tanked it uncouncious. He stomps

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Round 1 is a godstomp in tony’s favour

Round 2 is a godstomp in starlord’s favour

Strongly disagree with round 1. This is the suitcase suit that was getting wrecked by Whiplash. Star-Lord has more range and can hold Iron Man down. Stark's repulsors in that suit can be dodged by Whiplash, and SL has better evasion feats.

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#19  Edited By TheVivas

@greysentinel365: @stormdriven: Oh okay. I’ve been working too much lately and have already forgotten like 75% of IW.

I’ll need to rewatch it again and pay more attention to that sequence. Seems too strong for Quill who doesn’t have his Celestial powers anymore.

EDIT: Nvm Peter has his powers in Round 2.

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@thevivas: It's a joke for the morons who keep saying they dodged meteorites.

One the size of the one that hit Iron Man has been calc'd vaporise everything in 4 km. And Star Lord co. were not 30m from the impact.

It clearly didn't do that. Because it wasn't going at that speed.

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Both rounds are mismatch stomps...

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@huthimamwa: In favor of who? Star-Lord? Bc the suitcase suit is pretty weak and celestial powers makes him too much for the Hulkbuster.

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@rebake:

“Strongly disagree with round 1. This is the suitcase suit that was getting wrecked by Whiplash. Star-Lord has more range and can hold Iron Man down. Stark's repulsors in that suit can be dodged by Whiplash, and SL has better evasion feats.”

Starlord has more range, but unless he manages to put tony down immediately, a thing that I don’t think will happen, iron man closes the distance and starlord is dead

How does Iron Man close the distance without flight? Starlord was able to survive getting close to the Bleeding Edge, he will most likely survive the slower suitcase armor (which doesn't have any physical feats better than Captain America's). His blasts should wear down the suit like Whiplash's whips, except he has even more range and Iron Man can't do what he did to Whiplash to win here. The suitcase suit was exceptionally weak as the first portable suit.

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Quill both rounds

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@rebake:

“How does Iron Man close the distance without flight?”

It can fly.

“Starlord was able to survive getting close to the Bleeding Edge, he will most likely survive the slower suitcase armor”

Tony was not bloodlusted like here.

“which doesn't have any physical feats better than Captain America's”

Could you prove this? Besides, cap would stomp quill if he catches him.

And where was that flight when he fought Whiplash, who had much more limited range? By showings, Stark can't or won't fly with that suit in combat. Star-Lord's very effective when bloodlusted as shown against Spider-Man and Iron Man. When Stark is bloodlusted, he fights like he does at the end of IM3 and Civil War. Prove the suitcase suit isn't better than Cap in stats? Iron Man only pushed a car missing an entire side with his leg and body behind it. At this point, I can see Cap doing the same. The difference between Cap and the suitcase armor comes down to speed and skill. The suitcase armor wasn't all that fast and it couldn't hit Whiplash, how's slower than Star-Lord. The suitcase suit loses this fight. If SL could temporarily pin the bleeding edge, he'll immobilize the suitcase armor and shoot it full of holes (and the suit is susceptible to energy damage similar to what SL's guns can dish out).

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@rebake:

“And where was that flight when he fought Whiplash, who had much more limited range?”

The iron man wiki says it can fly.

“When Stark is bloodlusted, he fights like he does at the end of IM3 and Civil War. ”

And he was beating the crap out of Bucky, a shooter like peter.

“Iron Man only pushed a car missing an entire side with his leg and body behind it. At this point, I can see Cap doing the same.”

It is pretty a feeble proof, however whether or not Cap is close or above iron man in stats, tony doesn’t need cap’s stats to physically stomp peter.

I can see starlord take some rounds, but not the majority. Iron man has weapons too, and peter has not his durability.

But it never did in combat.

That was the mark 46, and even then it wasn't at peak performance. SL has dual blasters unlike Bucky and can damage the armor with enough shots.

I'm just saying there is absolutely no evidence the suitcase armor is above Cap or is anywhere near as powerful as other armors.

Star-Lord's definitely taking the majority if Whiplash nearly beat the suitcase armor with limited range and attacks that even Stark could avoid without a suit. The only offensive weaponry that suit has is repulsors, it's not winning this.

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@rebake:

"Star-Lord's definitely taking the majority if Whiplash nearly beat the suitcase armor with limited range and attacks that even Stark could avoid without a suit. The only offensive weaponry that suit has is repulsors, it's not winning this."

The difference is that stark can tank some of peter's bolts, while peter would get one-shotted by tony's repulsors. He is just an human after he killed Ego.

It's unlikely Star-Lord would get one-shotted with his level of energy resistance and the force of the repulsor blasts for the suitcase suit isn't as high as it can be with other suits. But more than that, I don't even think Iron Man would land a hit most rounds. Star-Lord has better maneuverability and has dodged similar attacks. The suit's energy resistance is only ok in some areas. Notice the damage done to one of its arms from a single attack from Whiplash. Now imagine Star-Lord blasting away at his armor like he did with Ego. Not to mention he can do that level of damage at a greater distance. You argue for one of Stark's weakest suits like it's a standard suit, but it's weaker than a standard suit by orders of magnitude. It's portable, light, and looks cool. That's it.

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R1: I give it to Star-Lord. His skill, equipment, and tactics are way more advanced than Tony's by the time of Iron Man 2. Plus his physicality that is insanely impressive even without his cosmic powers further enhancing himself. He was able to outmaneuver and incapacitate Iron Man with the Bleeding Edge armor, even dodging its repulsive rays, tanking an explosion from its wrist rocket, and surviving up-close wrestling with the damn thing.

R2: Star-Lord godstomps Tony, he's literally immortal.

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#34 krisbishop  Moderator

Star-Lord wins both rounds tbh.

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Star Lord.