SSJ4 Gogeta vs Whis

The Strongest in GT

VS

The Strongest in Z

Rules

• Victory by death or KO
• No prep; Random encounter
• No time limit to the fusion
• Gogeta is not holding back
• Takes place on an indestructible abandoned Namek

Whis > Glass > Gogeta.

Oh man.

SSJ4 Gogeta.

*gets flame retardant blanket*

Gogeta can't land a hit. Since Whis has instantaneous reactions, he is only limited by his pure speed, which is already enough to travel from one side of the universe to the other in under a half hour.

Whis and Beerus are dining on monkey soup, tonight.

Whis kicks his butt

Whis neck chops him and proceeds to dine on a Strawberry Sundae

Gogeta stomps

Whis I guess, dbgt sux

Whis would hit Gogeta so hard that Vegeta and Goku would be separated from their fusion.

Whis one-shots while enjoying a sunday, then reverses time so he can enjoy the same sunday all over again and consequently one-shots Gogeta once more as a side effect of this. So Gogeta loses twice.

@kaijukinggojira: Whis stomps

Whis defeats him with his eyes closed whilst enjoying a sushi plate with one hand.

Whis

He'd have a 3/20 chance against Beerus but .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001/1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 chance against Whis.

You were too lazy to read that number. Lmao

Wow, people are really against Gogeta on this one lol. I would at least like to think Gogeta would make an excellent rival for Beerus.

Probably would. People seem to just enjoy making scenarios for Whis to enjoy food.

Alternatively, people are still stinging over GT.

I actually would say Gogeta would give Whis a great fight, but he'll take the loss.

It's gogeta that has the universal feats

SSJ4 Gogeta would win against Beerus, but against Whis.. I don't think so.

EDIT: If it was SSJ4 Vegito then HELL YEAH!

Beerus, alone, can stomp SSJ4 Gogeta. Whis taps him on the neck and SSJ4 Gogeta is knocked out and unfused.

@nickzambuto: When was it shown Whis has instantaneous reactiions?

in my opinion Gogeta ss4 could maybe win against Beerus. But I think Whis would win here.

In Resurrection 'F'

Gogeta one shots

IIRC, that was SSJ4 Goku. Gogeta was never cut by glass.

@the_caped_crusader:

Neither did ssj4 so nice try you both.

the scene clearly shows, the cut was caused by omega shenron's blast and not by some glass laying on the floor with no blood on it. base Goku broke that with his finger.

I am not interested in this battle but I am interested in your arguments.

1. What are instantaneous reactions? Can you explain that statement?

2. Do you actually know how big is Dragonball Universe? Saying he crossed the Universe in half an hour is not a quantified speed feat.

Beerus will get cut with a glass if he let his guard down

DBZ characters is not durable, their Ki protecting them

As simple as that

@khael: b*llshit unless that glass is enhanced by ki.

@shenron007: Don't know what you're talking about but i have an example

Remember when Goku got cheap shoted by Frieza's minion? Well that's should proof that Goku isn't exactly durable (If he is he shouldn't get a scratch)

You should remember that Goku tanked worse attack than that without any problem when he's ready

A real durable character like Superman is durable all the time, however Goku is not

The simplest answer is Goku need to protect himself with something before he tanking sh*t and the obvious answer is his Ki

Nice try but no, if you on about fakutsu no f that laser is faster and more durable than his reactions. And superman has way more low end durability feats, so stop the hype there lol.

@shenron007: Obviously know nothing about what he's talking about

If you try to do an argument

You should a least counter my statement with feats or whatever

I never stated that Superman is more durable, i said Superman is durable when he's ready or not, however Goku is not durable without his ki protecting him

Whis just destroys him. Don't get me wrong, SSJ4 Gogeta is extremely powerful, but Whis KO'd Beerus with a single hit in Battle of the Gods. Someone with that kind of power would certainly be able to do the same to SSJ4 Gogeta. In any case if Whis WAS ever close to losing he could just reverse time an infinity number of times until victorious. I doubt he'd need to do this though.

@shenron007: Did you delete your post?

Anyway, you should know what I'm talking about, because honestly, you don't even know what I'm trying to say here

Goku is more durable but he have to put his Ki first, it's the Ki that durable

Superman doesn't need to put his Ki, he's durable even on his sleep

get it?

Whis

@khael: nope superman without sun dip isn't durable put at mere average human level incertain circumstances. proven both in comics, movies and toons. You might have other instances Were you can low ball Goku's durability but the one you are referring to, which I guess is sorbet's ring isn't a good one. btw Gogeta is the one with strength feat and whis the speed feat and God ki hype.

@sirneko: I already posted the Resurrection 'F' clip above. Technically flying from one end of the universe to the other is an understatement, Whis and Beerus went from their palace, to the afterlife and King Kai's planet, then back to Earth all in under a half hour. Those are entirely separate REALMS.

Gos geez, you completely missing the point, do you even know what I'm trying to say?

I never lowballed DBZ, Goku need to put his Ki to make him durable, Goku without his Ki have average human durability

And when the hell did i Lowballed Goku durability?

Whis

@khael: &lt; < I never low balled DBZ he claims and then states: Goku without ki is average human level lol.

show me the instances you referring to cause they proply only are filler. Can't recall in the manga moments that Goku gets hurt by things an average human would tank or only feel hurt. Superman is the one that lost to average human's and objects thrown by average human's when stripped of Sundip not Goku nice try though.

@shenron007: Simple

If he's durable without his Ki, He can't get cheap shoted

Anyway Goku should die due to illness, pretty durable right?

@khael: what illniss? Unless you on about a virus with no limit fallacy lol. He can get cheap shoted if it is even faster then his super human reactions.