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#1 Posted by Starlord4509 (113 posts) - - Show Bio
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Who wins?

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#2 Posted by Frisky4 (9216 posts) - - Show Bio

Vegeta.

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#3 Posted by deactivated-57b54fc9eb0d8 (3015 posts) - - Show Bio

Vegeta.

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#4 Posted by GXrevolution96 (3654 posts) - - Show Bio

Cell wins handily. Cell at full power would wreck any SSJ. SSJ2 is needed to take him down.

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#5 Posted by Sy8000 (35236 posts) - - Show Bio

Vegeta was confirmed as more powerful than a version of Gohan that seems roughly even with Super Perfect Cell. He wins.

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#6 Posted by botanix (1282 posts) - - Show Bio

@gxrevolution96: Cell wins handily. Cell at full power would wreck any SSJ. SSJ2 is needed to take him down.

Majin Vegeta is SSJ2 and stronger then Gohan too...

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#7 Posted by GXrevolution96 (3654 posts) - - Show Bio

@botanix said:

@gxrevolution96: Cell wins handily. Cell at full power would wreck any SSJ. SSJ2 is needed to take him down.

Majin Vegeta is SSJ2 and stronger then Gohan too...

Yes, as SSJ2. The OP title says super saiyan Majin Vegeta

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#8 Posted by botanix (1282 posts) - - Show Bio

@gxrevolution96: Yes, as SSJ2. The OP title says super saiyan Majin Vegeta

Then this topic makes as much sense as SSJ1 vs SSJ2, spite and to lock.

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#9 Edited by GXrevolution96 (3654 posts) - - Show Bio

@botanix said:

@gxrevolution96: Yes, as SSJ2. The OP title says super saiyan Majin Vegeta

Then this topic makes as much sense as SSJ1 vs SSJ2, spite and to lock.

I would hardly call it SSJ vs SSJ2. Cell at full power was still no match for a SSJ2, but at the same time was superior to SSJ by a decent margin.

I have

SSJ2 Kid Gohan>>>FP Perfect Cell>SSJ Majin Vegeta=SSJ Goku(Buu Saga)>>MSSJ Kid Gohan>>CG MSSJ Goku>>>everyone else

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#10 Edited by Noone301994 (22169 posts) - - Show Bio

Vegeta wins.

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#11 Posted by Korraspirit (241 posts) - - Show Bio

Cell wrecks. Vegeta needs super saiyan 2 to secure the win.

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#12 Edited by botanix (1282 posts) - - Show Bio

@gxrevolution96: Cell at full power was still no match for a SSJ2

He was no match for Gohan not for SSJ2, cell was also SSJ2... Adult Gohan is SSJ2 too but he is much weaker then Kid Gohan SSJ2.

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#13 Posted by GXrevolution96 (3654 posts) - - Show Bio

@botanix said:

@gxrevolution96: Cell at full power was still no match for a SSJ2

He was no match for Gohan not for SSJ2, cell was also SSJ2... Adult Gohan is SSJ2 too but he is much weaker then Kid Gohan SSJ2.

I am referring to the fight before he blows himself up. After Gohan destroys the Cell Juniors, Cell performs one final power up to which he goes full out.

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#14 Edited by botanix (1282 posts) - - Show Bio

@gxrevolution96: I am referring to the fight before he blows himself up

That was no full power Cell then, that was SSJ1 cell, full power is SSJ2.

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#15 Posted by GXrevolution96 (3654 posts) - - Show Bio

@botanix said:

@gxrevolution96: I am referring to the fight before he blows himself up

That was no full power Cell then, that was SSJ1 cell, full power is SSJ2.

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#16 Posted by NotATreeABush (5004 posts) - - Show Bio

Vegeta wins

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#17 Posted by Phantom16 (613 posts) - - Show Bio

Cell wins

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#18 Posted by botanix (1282 posts) - - Show Bio
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#19 Edited by GXrevolution96 (3654 posts) - - Show Bio

@botanix said:

@gxrevolution96: and what is that video for?

In reponse to your comment about Cell not being at full power, which he was as shown in the video

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#20 Edited by botanix (1282 posts) - - Show Bio

@gxrevolution96: ok my bad i misread the topic i thought its ssj2 cell = super perfect, but in this fight tit is perfect cell. In that case majin takes this.

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#21 Posted by NotATreeABush (5004 posts) - - Show Bio
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#22 Posted by GXrevolution96 (3654 posts) - - Show Bio
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#23 Posted by NotATreeABush (5004 posts) - - Show Bio

@gxrevolution96: For some reason I thought you ment Cell's best form, never mind

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#24 Posted by GXrevolution96 (3654 posts) - - Show Bio

@gxrevolution96: For some reason I thought you ment Cell's best form, never mind

@botanix said:

@gxrevolution96: ok my bad i misread the topic i thought its ssj2 cell = super perfect, but in this fight tit is perfect cell. In that case majin takes this.

Oh! My bad. I thought there might have been a misunderstanding. I should have been more clearer

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#25 Posted by Thewisdomking (242 posts) - - Show Bio

Vegeta destroys cell

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#26 Posted by GXrevolution96 (3654 posts) - - Show Bio
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#27 Posted by One_They_Fear (323 posts) - - Show Bio

ssj vegeta is above teen gohan ssj2, so ofc he'd take this

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#28 Posted by UFT (4533 posts) - - Show Bio

ssj vegeta is above teen gohan ssj2

ludicrous nonsense. he would be above ssj1 gohan but it wouldnt be a slaughter

Adult Gohan is SSJ2 too but he is much weaker then Kid Gohan SSJ2.

no he isnt

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#29 Posted by Divell (2616 posts) - - Show Bio

SS2 Majin Vegita without problem he was capable of keep up with Fat Buu and give SS2 Goku a good fight until knock Goku wich means he easily was holding back during his fight with Kakarotto.

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#30 Posted by StrawHatLuffy (314 posts) - - Show Bio

@gxrevolution96:

No. Cell at full power wrecked ssj goku. But not any ssj.

You mean to tell me that cell can wreck ssj Vegeto

Ssj is a multiplier not a power level.

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#31 Posted by Iragexcudder (9464 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm almost positive that SSJ1 M Vegeta was boosted from the Majin power no?

Could Fat Buu beat Cell?

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#32 Edited by nishi99 (1374 posts) - - Show Bio

Vegeta should still win as SSJ1, Goku even put up a good fight as a SSJ1 in the Cell Games. 7 years of training before the Buu Saga should put SSJ1 Vegeta at least Perfect Cell level + Majin boost = win.

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#33 Posted by JuzaCloud (3431 posts) - - Show Bio

When majin vegeta was at the tournament blowing people up he was in regular ssj form. I would say he was slightly stronger than perfect cell (full power). Not super perfect cell (after regenerating from suicide bomb).

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#34 Posted by dondave (41752 posts) - - Show Bio

Vegeta

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#36 Edited by GXrevolution96 (3654 posts) - - Show Bio

@nishi99 said:

Vegeta should still win as SSJ1, Goku even put up a good fight as a SSJ1 in the Cell Games. 7 years of training before the Buu Saga should put SSJ1 Vegeta at least Perfect Cell level + Majin boost = win.

Cell was heavily suppressed when he fought Goku and was still stated to be "One or two steps" ahead. If you go by the manga, Goku was on the back foot throughout the whole fight and couldn't damage Cell. He had to resort to a surprise attack(IT kamehameha)which he put most of his Ki into. He even said that if he slipped up, it would be over in an instant.

Secondly, SSJ2 Goku and Majin Vegeta were not that far ahead of SSJ2 Kid Gohan. Moreover, Goku and Gohan were much stronger than Vegeta at the CG so he'd had to play catch up. Vegeta even stated in their fight that the gap between their powers hadn't changed and that no matter how hard he tried, he could never surpass him hence why he needed Babidis help.

@strawhatluffy said:

@gxrevolution96:

No. Cell at full power wrecked ssj goku. But not any ssj.

You mean to tell me that cell can wreck ssj Vegeto

Ssj is a multiplier not a power level.

I never said it was a set power level.

Vegetto and Gotenks are exceptions. They are fusions.

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#37 Posted by Spidey_Jackson (6359 posts) - - Show Bio

Vegeta. Handily.

Beata

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#38 Posted by w0nd (6803 posts) - - Show Bio

I think they have all gotten stronger since the cell games. base goku was a 1 and ssj raises his power to 5

Base goku years later is a 5...him powering up to SSJ wouldn't make him a 5 still, it would make him stronger.

SSJ isn't a cut off power level point. AS long as base Vegeta is stronger then he was during the cell games, this his SSJ form will be too. He has been training constantly, his skills are still there as well as his strength

in gt (non cannon) goku was toying around with both cell and frieza at the same time in his base form.

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#39 Edited by MisterGuyMan (2599 posts) - - Show Bio

Vegeta should win:

100% SS2 Majin Vegeta > 100% SS2 Kid Gohan (This is stated in the Buu arc)

50% Kid Gohan > Super Perfect Cell (Gohan still beats SPC after he loses over 50% of his power)

50% SS2 Maijin Vegeta = 100% SS1 Maijin Vegeta (SS2 multiplies power by 100x. SS1 multiplies power by 50x.)

Therefore 50% SS2 Maijin Vegeta = SS2 Maijin Vegeta > Super Perfect Cell

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#40 Edited by 98115 (1748 posts) - - Show Bio

vegeta wins. hes gotten much stronger since he last fought cell

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#41 Posted by Mike_Fowler (5024 posts) - - Show Bio

@misterguyman:

"50% Kid Gohan > Super Perfect Cell (Gohan still beats SPC after he loses over 50% of his power)"

Gohan wasn't at 50% when he overwhelmed cell

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#42 Posted by MisterGuyMan (2599 posts) - - Show Bio

@dbzk1999 said:

@misterguyman:

"50% Kid Gohan > Super Perfect Cell (Gohan still beats SPC after he loses over 50% of his power)"

Gohan wasn't at 50% when he overwhelmed cell

Gohan states that he lost over half his power.

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#44 Posted by MisterGuyMan (2599 posts) - - Show Bio

@dbzk1999 said:

@misterguyman: and goku states that it's only in his mind

Gohan says he lost half his power. Goku says he's holding back. They're two statements that don't contradict. Gohan can lose half his power and still hold back.

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#45 Posted by Kokemabb200 (3400 posts) - - Show Bio

Vegeta

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#46 Posted by UFT (4533 posts) - - Show Bio

Vegeta should still win as SSJ1, Goku even put up a good fight as a SSJ1 in the Cell Games. 7 years of training before the Buu Saga should put SSJ1 Vegeta at least Perfect Cell level + Majin boost = win.

goku was facing a supressed cell. and your just blindly assuming that heavy training alone closed the gap. no real proof

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#47 Posted by deactivated-59c716930b8a6 (9227 posts) - - Show Bio

Vegeta.

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#48 Posted by nishi99 (1374 posts) - - Show Bio

@gxrevolution96: The gap between Goku and Vegeta wasn't that big at the start of the Buu Saga. Both of Them were SSJ2's that surpassed Gohan, Vegeta even put up a fight against SSJ3 tier Kid Buu without the Majin Boost. Vegeta just wanted a grantee that he would beat Goku and that's why he give in to Babidis power. When Vegeta was talking about the gap it was the past like their first fight, Frieza, Cell etc in the flashbacks. Vegeta was even going to fight Goku at the World Tournament before everything went down.

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#49 Edited by GXrevolution96 (3654 posts) - - Show Bio

@nishi99 said:

@gxrevolution96: The gap between Goku and Vegeta wasn't that big at the start of the Buu Saga. Both of Them were SSJ2's that surpassed Gohan, Vegeta even put up a fight against SSJ3 tier Kid Buu without the Majin Boost. Vegeta just wanted a grantee that he would beat Goku and that's why he give in to Babidis power. When Vegeta was talking about the gap it was the past like their first fight, Frieza, Cell etc in the flashbacks. Vegeta was even going to fight Goku at the World Tournament before everything went down.

The gap was big enough that Vegeta felt that he needed Babidi's help.

Vegeta did not put up a fight against Kid Buu. The former received one of the most brutal beat downs in series and was finished in 4-5 pages.

Good point, except that Vegeta hadn't had glimpse of Goku's power yet at the tournament, so he was confident that he could beat Goku. It is only when he glimpsed Goku's SSJ2 against Yakkon did he realise that there was an apparent gap.

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#50 Posted by Thewisdomking (242 posts) - - Show Bio

@gxrevolution96: Vegeta clearly states that the only reason he needed Bbidi's help was to gain his evil self back. Just to get rid of how he softened up on Earth and think about this, can you imagine super perfect cell giving buu a hard time? After Vegeta was bloodied from defeating a more powerful ssj2 Goku , he went on to nearly stalemate Buu (Until Trunks saved him and he killed himself).