SSJ Future Gohan VS DBZ Team

SSJ Future Gohan

Android 19 and Dr. Gero

Mecha Frieza and King Cold

SSJ Goku (Namek)

Rules:

• Morals off and Bloodlusted
• Random Encounter
• Win by death/destruction. BFR is allowed.
• Frieza is restricted from planet busting. King Cold has Future Trunks' sword.
• This is 19 after he absorbed SSJ Goku's energy. This is Gero after he absorbed Piccolo's energy.
• SSJ Goku is from Namek.
• Teamwork is not an issue for the Namek/Android team. Everyone on the team will focus solely on Future Gohan for this fight.
• Location: Cell Games arena and surrounding landscape

R1: Gohan only has one arm.

R2: Gohan has both of his arms.

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18&17>>>SSJ gohan>>>>Dr. Gero >> 19>>> Mecha frieza

R1: low-mid diff

R2: low diff

Team wins with high difficulty. It's a random encounter, so Gohan probably wouldn't be able to avoid having his energy taken in a 3v1. He also has to look out for getting caught off guard and killed by one of Freeza's lasers.

Gohan stomps especially if we're talking anime versions. Trunks would've low diffed this team and he isn't that much stronger than Gohan.

Gohan actually stomps.

The version of Goku that 19 fought is a severely weakened version compared to one that fought Frieza on Namek

Even Piccolo is just flat out stronger then Dr. Gero

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No reason why Gohan doesn't neg dif Frieza as Trunks did.

I actually didn't notice Namek Saga Goku there.

That might change things. Although, non sick Post Yardrat SSJ1 Goku and SSJ1 Future Trunks are a lot stronger then Namek Goku.

@wushu59:

Just to clarify, What does the piccolo quote have to do with comparing to Namek SSJ Goku specifically?

Future Riceman clears, dude was doing constant 2v1s with Girlcyborg and Boycyborg and each of them could solo this list with complete ease.

@wushu59 said:

Gohan actually stomps.

The version of Goku that 19 fought is a severely weakened version compared to one that fought Frieza on Namek

Even Piccolo is just flat out stronger then Dr. Gero

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No reason why Gohan doesn't neg dif Frieza as Trunks did.

Tbf that’s just a testament to how powerful Post-Android Training Piccolo is. Krillin even stated he’s almost as powerful as a Super Sayian.

The scans I posted were to clarify that Goku was in a weakened state via his Heart Virus.

The Present Day Goku being stronger then Namek Goku thing I said was just an additional add on statement.

But to clarify that as well, Frieza who had already fought Goku on Namek and knows the extent of his power was confident that he could beat Goku on his own with his new power upgrade. Keep in mind King Cold is stated to be comparable in power to Freiza.

And based on how easily Future Trunks dispatched this stronger version of Frieza + King Cold with negative difficulty, you can easily infer that Goku was stronger then he was on Namek using Trunks interaction with post Yardrat Goku.

@nassergrant19:

Tbf that’s just a testament to how powerful Post-Android Training Piccolo is. Krillin even stated he’s almost as powerful as a Super Sayian.

Well, he didn't say "as powerful."

He actually said "He is so powerful and he is not even a Super Sayian."

Piccolo was already gassing up the power of a Super Saiyan before he knew how bad Goku's condition was.

And as soon as Goku transforms Piccolo notices something is wrong with Goku.

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It isn't consistent for Piccolo to be same level as Super Saiyan because there were moments where Dr. Gero tagged him pretty cleanly with his eye laser beam

Which would obviously never happen to SS Vegeta who low diffed Android 19 extremely easy. Piccolo gasses Vegeta's power level as well and Gohan even knocks down Gero at one point. So SS1 Vegeta >> Piccolo > Dr. Gero

Now, Post Kami Fusion, Piccolo is above SSJ1 Grade 1 for sure.

Gohan doesn't have a prayer.

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@wushu59: Frieza was confirmed suppressed when he arrived on Earth.

This team probably overwhelms him, unless you think Gohan is legitimately androids 17/18 tier, then he could take it.

If Gohan isn't actually comparable to 17/18, ssj Goku and 100% Frieza would already be approaching his power. With 19 and 20 absorbing his ki blasts they could become relevant as well. If they surprise grab him and suck away a good chunk of his power he will be screwed. Gohan would have to be ruthless and kill them as fast as possible.

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@wushu59: Piccolo let himself get tagged by Gero on purpose so he can play possum as he explained later.

@alextheboss: Gohan doesn't need to scale to 17/18 to beat the team, he just needs to scale to Trunks which he does. Namek Goku scales to Mecha Freeza and King Cold, who were easily beaten by Trunks. The androids are garbage who are only noteworthy for their unusual pain tolerance and energy absorption, otherwise Gohan should have no problem taking them down without ever firing an energy blast.

@jack_hart: Actually Piccolo was actually truly restrained at one point when he was caught off guard. And Mecha Frieza was massively suppressed when Trunks killed him. Trunks was compared to namek ssj Goku when he was sensed.

@wushu59:

Except Piccolo had trained with Goku for 3 years at this point and knew Goku’s level. He wasn’t talking about Namek Goku at that point.

@alextheboss:

Gohan isn’t 17/18 tier. 17 killed him using half his power and current timeline 17/18 are much more powerful.

I’m actually torn on who would win here.

@kal_el_batson:

Gohan isn’t 17/18 tier. 17 killed him using half his power

Yeah, but in the anime he fought both at once and gave them trouble. Manga only, then yeah.

and current timeline 17/18 are much more powerful.

I definitely agree he isn't on their level

I’m actually torn on who would win here.

If we go by manga only, I think the team wins. If you include the anime special feats I think it would be very close, and depends on how serious Frieza takes the fight and how well 19 and 20 use their absorption powers. If Frieza goes all out from the start, he is almost as strong as namek Goku, and 19 and 20 could cancel out all ki blasts and drain Gohan down. If Frieza is cocky Gohan gives him the Trunks treatment and if 19 and 20 aren't careful the are initially weak enough to possibly be one shot.

@alextheboss: What do you mean "restrained"? Piccolo literally said the whole thing was just an act to create an opening to save Goku, that the attack itself was puny and meant nothing to him.

Trunks wanted Freeza to come at him with full power from the start, I don't think Freeza being not suppressed would've changed much.

Imo Gohan was saying that Trunks had the same kind of ki as Namek Goku (ie Super Saiyan), not necessarily that they had the same amount.

@jack_hart: Dude no, that was when Gero shot a beam through Piccolo and he stayed down to trick him. Gero later got the jump on Piccolo from behind and drained him of his power and Piccolo couldn't break free. Those were two completely different instances.

Even if Frieza went full power he would have still lost, but if Frieza went full power and Trunks decided to throw his sword away and box him, it would have been like namek ssj Goku vs Frieza all over again, except a bit easier for Trunks he he would have ruthlessly killed Frieza when he had the chance instead of sparing him.

It's possible he meant the same kind of ki, though we don't know, and yadrat ssj Goku stopped Trunk's sword with his finger, so it would make sense Trunks is closer to Namek saga Goku.

@alextheboss: Ok gotcha, I was responding to the first scenario.

Trunks easily caught his own sword when he let King Cold take a swing at him with it, I doubt a pure HtH fight with Freeza would've been that grueling even given Trunks' ruthlessness compared to Goku.

Goku said that Trunks held back against him during the finger block thing.

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King Colds was relative to Frieza and he wasn't suppressed. Frieza still thought he could beat Goku in his new form by himself.

The laser beam incident is not same interaction as the one you are referring to.

Probably the team high diff.

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Yardarat goku>>>FTgohan>FTtrunks>>>androids 19 and 20>>>>mecha frieza>~namek goku>>>king cold

This is literally between Goku and Gohan Android 19 and Dr gero are weak and Gohan should be aware about Android 19 absorption hax so :

Round 1 : Gohan should mid diff Goku

Round 2 : Gohan low diff

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@wushu59: King Cold was relative to a suppressed Frieza. The daizenshuu says he is almost as strong as full power Frieza but we don’t know if King Cold has extra forms or power ups. And Frieza was just being cocky and he still wasn’t sure if he could solo Goku, which is why he brought his dad.

@itsyourboi34: nah,

King Cold<19/20<=>mecha Frieza (unseen full power)<Namek ssj Goku<ssj Trunks<ssj Gohan

How would he know their absorption ability when 19 and 20 never appeared in Trunks' timeline? Also, in the OP it states this is a random encounter.