@jaycool2: Well I don't see how any of them can beat Akainu, how any of them can tag Kizaru, how any of them besides Brandish can stop Fuji's meteors, or how any of them besides Invel can break out of Aokiji's Flash Freeze.
@jaycool2: Doubt it would ever hit them, tbh. Aokiji could also just cough at it and freeze it if he wanted.
The Spriggans will probably get more feats in the next few chapters (unless they follow the trend of losing via power up and oneshot) so maybe they'll do better. But as of now, Admirals are too fast and too destructive.
Majority of the hax of the spriggans can be activated by thought which makes them very dangerous. If brandish thinks(Fuji would get his heart busted or his organs turned to paste).
Wahl will probably be admirals major downfall here(bar august & Irene). He just scams them and finds their weakness which is ocean water and creates abundance of it. Or he could just straight up make himself immune to their elements (magma, gravity & ice),yes Wahl can do this too. If things ever go south then there's still etherion lol.
There's also august who can actually solo(I mean it) with his ars Magia albeit he might take out his team too lol. Then Irene's sema which is just above nearly anything in one piece in terms of power. August can also instantly copy Irene's magic and then they both drop double semas lmao.
Mahn spriggans stomp.
At least add kizaru then maybe they might still stand a 2/10 chance of victory.
So, the 12 spriggan at their strongest and the actual level of the 3 known Admirals.
*The Admirals include Akainu, Aokiji,Fujitora
No Kizaru means, no blitzing, unless we could agree that the Admirals can keep up speedwise with Kizaru. Waiting for more feats from this side.
*Di maria cannot use time stop
Ok, so no one can stop the Admirals instant
*Zeref cannot participate
So, no Kizaru and no Zeref in this fight.
*Bloodlusted everyone is serious (even serena)
Ok, then the first team wins who can react faster.
*Takes place on ishagar
Not relevant
*ONLY feats count unless speculation can be proven
Ok, actual feats, so i going even without scaling, statements, etc. We don´t know the full power of the Admirals, since any of them fight in Base before. We have Aokiji vs Akainu in a 10 days long fight, which causes the weather complete in the region. But are those feats, because they don´t happend on panel? What kind of feats do you want exactly?
This match is without Kizaru, so the Spriggan 12 doesen´t get blitzed in a mismatch, since Kizaru outmatchet everyone in the terms of speed. I would say Spriggan 12 take this via high Diff. unless we see more from Akainu, Fujitora and Aokiji. The problem with the Spriggan 12 in this match is at first her majority and diversity of abilities. With Timestop and Zeref, The Spriggan could probably low diffs, maybe a stomp.
OT: Spriggan body in a mismatch with the top tiers soloing on their own.
Time stop was restricted. Along with zeref
How do they deal with kizaru as a whole and not get blitzed ?
How do they not get crushed by fuji and only few can deal with his meteorite?
How do they overcome their advanced precog?
How do they deal with their lvl of Haki that bypasses normal durability?
How do they deal with intangibility?
How do they overcome their stats advantage?
Neither time stop or Zeref are needed.
It is when The Admirals are vastly Superior to the team in speed.
Kizaru isn’t even here.
Which changes nothing.
Fuji doesn’t have the feats to crush characters this strong and his meteors are a non factor to these characters.
Prove any of these characters are physically superior to Zoro who could barely withstand a Gravity crush from Fuji.
While a casual Fujitora's meteor may not be that much of a problem he can spam them while eating noodles something that will be a huge problem since he can set up other attacks as this is going on not to mention his teammates.
Their massive AoE and superior attacks overcome the Admirals precog which btw August has as well.
No it doesn't they will see the attack coming before they even think of launching it:
The Admirals aren’t durable enough to tank attacks from characters weaker than the spriggan much less the spriggan themselves.
An opinion that gets contradicted by actual feats an evidence
Intangibility gets bypassed by their various forms of hax, elemental attacks and energy attacks.
To a certain extent the Admirals still have Haki and can predict where their attacks will hit and do this:
The Admirals don’t have a stat advantage.
An opinion that gets contradicted by actual feats and evidence, repeat
It is when The Admirals are vastly Superior to the team in speed.
How? The Admiral's scale to weaker characters reacting to lightning level feats. The Spriggan's scale to weaker characters having 4 to 5 digit mach level feats.
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Here are the weaker Dragons crossing the entire continent of Ishgar hundreds of times over in the span of a few seconds.
Prove any of these characters are physically superior to Zoro who could barely withstand a Gravity crush from Fuji.
Weaker characters have accomplished these feats.
While a casual Fujitora's meteor may not be that much of a problem he can spam them while eating noodles something that will be a huge problem since he can set up other attacks as this is going on not to mention his teammates.
His meteors aren't that casual, you're overselling them. And again the Spriggan would just
casually destroy them
shrink them to pebbles
no sell them
No it doesn't they will see the attack coming before they even think of launching it:
The Admirals haven't been shown to have exemplary CoO haki and they aren't fast enough to react either way.
An opinion that gets contradicted by actual feats an evidence
What feats and evidence? You haven't shown anything to defend your claims. Heres another feat accomplished by someone weaker than the Spriggan.
Only threats to the admirals whatsoever are Invel and August. Brandish and Di Maria's powers get negged as they're blitzed to oblivion along with the rest
The only viable option for the Spriggan is Jacob's BFR
Admirals stomps. Not only that they get now even a ability which can make internal damage and ignore durability, so they most like one shot all characters.
I have little to no clue about these admiral guys but unless any of them are shrink resistant they'll simply get crushed into an atomic level because of Brandish alone. Then there is August of all people who makes the war god look like a joke and the war god makes mountains look like absolute jokes, his ankles are higher than the clouds for fuck's sake lol. Dude was tanking Gildarts like he was nothing and that guy can send gravity manipulators to the stratosphere with a single punch clearing the entire sky full of clouds in the process.
I don't know. lol, i'm giving this to the Spriggans.
Admirals stomps. Not only that they get now even a ability which can make internal damage and ignore durability, so they most like one shot all characters.
Admiral stomps.
Nah, they talks only about feats, so i wouldn´t say they stomp since the internal damage is a new function. In this match intang is deactivatet, which is a huge nerf for the admirals. On the other hands, are statements like "Everyone on admirallevel has Haki" allready feats? I suggest feats only with that what those charakter has shown on panel, or in a description what happend. No scaling, or calculation. But maybe i have a different view of feats. Are those things "feats" too, then i agreed the Admiral would win. Not a stompt at this point, since we don´t know the full power of them, but they win.
Admirals stomps. Not only that they get now even a ability which can make internal damage and ignore durability, so they most like one shot all characters.
Admiral stomps.
Nah, they talks only about feats, so i wouldn´t say they stomp since the internal damage is a new function. In this match intang is deactivatet, which is a huge nerf for the admirals. On the other hands, are statements like "Everyone on admirallevel has Haki" allready feats? I suggest feats only with that what those charakter has shown on panel, or in a description what happend. No scaling, or calculation. But maybe i have a different view of feats. Are those things "feats" too, then i agreed the Admiral would win. Not a stompt at this point, since we don´t know the full power of them, but they win.
Yes they show to have advanced haki back then when they stop Whitebeard shockwave and deflect it around the corner.
Admirals stomps. Not only that they get now even a ability which can make internal damage and ignore durability, so they most like one shot all characters.
Admiral stomps.
Nah, they talks only about feats, so i wouldn´t say they stomp since the internal damage is a new function. In this match intang is deactivatet, which is a huge nerf for the admirals. On the other hands, are statements like "Everyone on admirallevel has Haki" allready feats? I suggest feats only with that what those charakter has shown on panel, or in a description what happend. No scaling, or calculation. But maybe i have a different view of feats. Are those things "feats" too, then i agreed the Admiral would win. Not a stompt at this point, since we don´t know the full power of them, but they win.
Yes they show to have advanced haki back then when they stop Whitebeard shockwave and deflect it around the corner.
Even with all these nerfs,the admirals are packing some hax Haki abilities like future sight and durability negation attacks, force field armour via Haki,gravity manipulation,ice and lava manipulation on top of their island lvl+ physical stats and ridiculous stamina, speed favours the admirals as they scale above characters who make other characters faster than lightning slow +they also scale to a light speed character
How? The Admiral's scale to weaker characters reacting to lightning level feats. The Spriggan's scale to weaker characters having 4 to 5 digit mach level feats.
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Here are the weaker Dragons crossing the entire continent of Ishgar hundreds of times over in the span of a few seconds.
Is that the best you got? Then Myou point still stands The Spriggan 12 get blitzed into Oblivion
The Admirals scale Massively above my main man Sanji who can Casually statued a lightning timer:
Oven and Daifuku scales massively above Kalifa(who reacted to lightning) and Pts luffy(kicked lightning away from Nami with the weight of a Golden ball on his arm.
Here is what Sanji does to Oven:
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Yes you saw it correctly Oven who is irrefutably a lightning timer got casually stated by Sanji, this isn't an anime only thing either.
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If you have selective seeing exactly what happens in the manga happens in the manga I'll dissect the feat for you
Look at Chiffon she still hasn't hit the ground, They were indeed slow motion to Sanji.
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>he kicked Oven
>sent him flying into a building
>and Chiffon STILL hadn't hit the ground yet.
I cannot stress it enough, Sanji irrefutably statued a lightning timer.
Here is another feat this is Daifuku his is comparable to Oven as well here is what Sanji does.
So here is Daifuku getting ready to attack Carrot:
Here is Sanji again casually stopping the attack mid swing:
Spriggan 12 get blitzed into oblivion.
Also travel speed doesn't equate to Combat speed.
Prove any of these characters are physically superior to Zoro who could barely withstand a Gravity crush from Fuji.
Weaker characters have accomplished these feats.
Again Prove any of these characters are physically superior to Zoro who could barely withstand a Gravity crush from Fuji.
Attack strength doesn't equate to lifting strength bit I'll counter both points.
The War gods feat isn't impressive at all....
Here is A casual Zoro consistently cutting a mountain sized Pica in half:
Pica making buildings look like pimples on his body:
Pica making buildings look like grass:
And then the icing on top of the cake:
Zoro was not only able to cut Pica in half but send his top half flying meters into the air nothing you've shown is on this level attack wise (physically) and lifting wise.
The Spriggan 12 get gravity pinned.
His meteors aren't that casual
They are even the one on Greenbit was:
He literally said he was just testing his strength.
Then you have him later summon them while eating Noodles.
you're overselling them. And again the Spriggan would just
casually destroy them
shrink them to pebbles
no sell them
>All of this while Fuji sets up for another attack
>All of this while Fuji sets up for another attack
> lol
The Admirals haven't been shown to have exemplary CoO haki and they aren't fast enough to react either way.
Fujitora is blind, there is no arguement for him not being able of use CoO a they scale above Luffy And Katakuri who have future sight.
An opinion that gets contradicted by actual feats an evidence
What feats and evidence? You haven't shown anything to defend your claims. Heres another feat accomplished by someone weaker than the Spriggan.
Spriggan far too much Hax in their side even without time stop. Like is there even anyway to put down August. Larcade’s Hax immobilizes everyone. Brandish can instantly shrink anyone. Irene’s a power house, if it wasn’t for the Erza b.s. I’d wonder how they’d even harm a dragon. They’d win this one
Spriggans stomp. Organ bust or sub atomic shrinking, flash freeze, bfr to death, flaming sea water, Pleasure, August and Irene. Even Neinhart could just bring back Whitebeard to f them up.
Brandish has no feats to say her magic can affect humans like she shrunk an entire island yet not the people living there and if we're going to assume she can then we can also assume Fuji can crush internal organs with his gravity
Let me just go through every Spriggan to make sure I’m not missing anyone’s and I’ll decide who I think wins at the end of the post.
Brandish: Brandish can shrink attacks and grow organs, but she’s a glass cannon.
Dimaria: Useless here.
Ajeel: His sand is impressive, but Aokiji hard counters it.
Wahl: He’s only going to be a threat if he gets off Etherion, and even that’s speculation.
Neinhart: Thinking about it, Neinhart can summon Whitebeard to fight off one of the Admirals. That’s overpowered.
Jacob: I guess he can BFR two of the Admirals, if I understand the power correctly, so they have to only fight 1v12.
Bloodman: Bloodman should technically be overpowered as frick, given he has mind control, sensory hax, and a one shot move.
Invel: Not sure about Aokiji, but Akainu and Fujitora don’t have any response to Flash freezing that effects instantly with Invel’s potency.
God Serena: He should be pretty strong, but I’m not sure how he can handle the Admirals unless he uses his Sea King magic, which is an almost guaranteed win if it tags right.
Larcade: The Admirals have no counter to R.I.P or Soul of the Wicked Meal. If they have had intercourse, I see no way the avoid Pleasure.
Irene: I don’t remember much from Irene, but if I do remember right, she could do what Law does in changing minds with others, and she could summon a meteor that’s at least above mountain level.
August: Ignoring that he’s supposed to be a person who knows all Magic, he can tank an Admiral’s physical hits just fine given how he tanked Gildarts’ Full power punch without much trouble. He also has all the hax of the Crime Sorciere, including time perception slowing, illusion making, and reading minds. His Crash magic is overpowered too, and Ars Magic is pretty much an instant stalemate.
Yeah, after going through that, the Admirals stand no chance. In fact, IIRC, August knows sleep magic, so he and Larcade together can be overpowered to the highest degree if they work in conjunction with Jacob’s BFR.
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