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#2  Edited By Ego

spiderman's spidersense actually speeds up spidey's reaction time to were everything around him is in slowmotion. in fact it goes to as far as he can make predictions of your movements before you make them. would zoom be effected by this spidersense?

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#3  Edited By One-Above-You

Zoom in the mother of all curbstomps.

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#4  Edited By Forever

You do realize that Zoom is altering the flow of time around himself to the point that it practically stops in comparison to his movements?

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#5  Edited By iSHADOW

spider sense isnt nearly as fast as zoom and even if it was he wouldnt have time to react.

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#6  Edited By Ego
Forever said:
"You do realize that Zoom is altering the flow of time around himself to the point that it practically stops in comparison to his movements?"
intresting. so zoom's power is basically the same thing as quicksilvers powers, correct?
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#7  Edited By iSHADOW
Ego said:
"Forever said:
"You do realize that Zoom is altering the flow of time around himself to the point that it practically stops in comparison to his movements?"
intresting. so zoom's power is basically the same thing as quicksilvers powers, correct?"
zoom destroys quicksilver
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#8  Edited By Ego
iSHADOW said:
"Ego said:
"Forever said:
"You do realize that Zoom is altering the flow of time around himself to the point that it practically stops in comparison to his movements?"
intresting. so zoom's power is basically the same thing as quicksilvers powers, correct?"
zoom destroys quicksilver"
quicksilver doesn't move in super speeds. he controls the time flow just as zoom. so what makes them any different?
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#9  Edited By Swagga Boy

*Sigh* pointless battle

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#10  Edited By One-Above-You
Ego said:
"iSHADOW said:
"Ego said:
"Forever said:
"You do realize that Zoom is altering the flow of time around himself to the point that it practically stops in comparison to his movements?"
intresting. so zoom's power is basically the same thing as quicksilvers powers, correct?"
zoom destroys quicksilver"
quicksilver doesn't move in super speeds. he controls the time flow just as zoom. so what makes them any different?"
What has Quicksilver done to show he is anywhere near Zoom?


Juggernaut and Beast both have super strength, but we know Juggernaut is stronger.
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#11  Edited By Clantern

Yeah zoom all the way, Spidey has absolutely no chance. Pointless battle sorry.

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#12  Edited By Swagga Boy

lol thing

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#13  Edited By Methos

Zoom takes this horrible curbstomp...

he's already been there, snapped Spiderman's neck and gone to eat a pretzel by the time the information from Spiderman's Spidersense has reached his brain

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#14  Edited By Ego

so spiderman loses due to the time around him stoppe. not by zoom's speed?

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#15  Edited By One-Above-You
Ego said:
"so spiderman loses due to the time around him stoppe. not by zoom's speed?"
...................

Zoom doesn't have super speed.
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#16  Edited By Methos
One-Above-You said:
"Ego said:
"so spiderman loses due to the time around him stoppe. not by zoom's speed?"
...................

Zoom doesn't have super speed."

damnit, One got there first...

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#17  Edited By Ego
One-Above-You said:
"Ego said:
"so spiderman loses due to the time around him stoppe. not by zoom's speed?"
...................

Zoom doesn't have super speed."
i know that. but the point was i didn't want people to think zoom has superspeed. he just stops time just like quicksilver or characters from final fantasy games.
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#18  Edited By Methos
caption
Well here's Zoom kicking the crap out of Wonder Woman...

what makes anyone think Spiderman can do any better than an Amazon Goddess?

M
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#19  Edited By MotorSteel

Can someone clarify? Zoom alters the time flow to make everything else around him seem as if it has stopped correct? So he doesn't have superspeed at all?

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#20  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Cosmic Spidey couldn't even win this.

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#21  Edited By Forever
MotorSteel said:
"Can someone clarify? Zoom alters the time flow to make everything else around him seem as if it has stopped correct? So he doesn't have superspeed at all?"

That is correct.
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#22  Edited By One-Above-All
MotorSteel said:
"Can someone clarify? Zoom alters the time flow to make everything else around him seem as if it has stopped correct? So he doesn't have superspeed at all?"
I'm pretty sure he doesn't have super speed, but I think he has some form of super endurance, since he was able to run around the world.
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#23  Edited By Methos
MotorSteel said:
"Can someone clarify? Zoom alters the time flow to make everything else around him seem as if it has stopped correct? So he doesn't have superspeed at all?"

Zoom has the ability to alter time relative to himself, as opposed to utilizing the Speed Force like most of the DC Universe speedsters do. He can apparently use this ability to move at speeds rivaling those of even Wally West, and usually faster than the speeds that even Wally can muster in most cases; rather than actually time travelling, Zoom is controlling the speed at which time flows around him, allowing him to go faster or slower in time than everyone around him. Since Zoom isn't actually moving at superspeed,rather, he is greatly slowing down Time relative to himself, and can make himself so "fast" that even most of the Flashes look to him to be moving in slow motion.

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#24  Edited By Forever
Ego said:
"Forever said:
"You do realize that Zoom is altering the flow of time around himself to the point that it practically stops in comparison to his movements?"
intresting. so zoom's power is basically the same thing as quicksilvers powers, correct?"

I believe the difference to be that Quicksilver time jumped, almost teleporting through time, as opposed to slowing time's relationship to himself.  I also think that Quicksilver lost that power and regained the superspeed he had originally.
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#25  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Forever said:
"Ego said:
"Forever said:
"You do realize that Zoom is altering the flow of time around himself to the point that it practically stops in comparison to his movements?"
intresting. so zoom's power is basically the same thing as quicksilvers powers, correct?"

I believe the difference to be that Quicksilver time jumped, almost teleporting through time, as opposed to slowing time's relationship to himself.  I also think that Quicksilver lost that power and regained the superspeed he had originally."
That's correct.Quicksilver went back to his original powers...he's slightly faster than classic Quicksilver though.
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#26  Edited By The Batman!

Zoom wins

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#27  Edited By Ego
Methos said:
"
caption
Well here's Zoom kicking the crap out of Wonder Woman...

what makes anyone think Spiderman can do any better than an Amazon Goddess?

M
"
time is very powerful weapon. since superman and flash are just super fast. zoom is actually a slow normal walking guy.. but to control time, how is any one with out the same power or super smart able to stop someone who controls times?


apparently from the feats..

zoom can beat...


juggernaut
onsluaght
cyborg superman
shaggy man
ghost rider
ego
professor x
phoenix
harry potter
hancock
gladiator
flash
sentry
the coverfield monster
max pain
the punisher
batmite
the collector
the stranger


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#28  Edited By Zoom III

I win...this isnt even a fair fight...lmao

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#29  Edited By One-Above-All
Ego said:
"Methos said:
"
caption
Well here's Zoom kicking the crap out of Wonder Woman...

what makes anyone think Spiderman can do any better than an Amazon Goddess?

M
"
time is very powerful weapon. since superman and flash are just super fast. zoom is actually a slow normal walking guy.. but to control time, how is any one with out the same power or super smart able to stop someone who controls times?


apparently from the feats..

zoom can beat...


juggernaut
onsluaght -  no
cyborg superman
shaggy man
ghost rider
ego
professor x
phoenix -  no
harry potter
hancock
gladiator
flash
sentry
the coverfield monster
max pain
the punisher
batmite -  no
the collector
the stranger -  no


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#30  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Ego said:
"Methos said:
"
caption
Well here's Zoom kicking the crap out of Wonder Woman...

what makes anyone think Spiderman can do any better than an Amazon Goddess?

M
"
time is very powerful weapon. since superman and flash are just super fast. zoom is actually a slow normal walking guy.. but to control time, how is any one with out the same power or super smart able to stop someone who controls times?


apparently from the feats..

zoom can beat...


juggernaut
onsluaght
cyborg superman
shaggy man
ghost rider
ego
professor x
phoenix
harry potter
hancock
gladiator
flash
sentry
the coverfield monster
max pain
the punisher
batmite
the collector
the stranger


"
Zoom cannot beat the Cloverfield Monster or Bat-Mite..or the Phoenix....or Onslaught.....WTF are you talking about?
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#31  Edited By Forever
Vance Astro said:
"That's correct.Quicksilver went back to his original powers...he's slightly faster than classic Quicksilver though."

Excellent.
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#32  Edited By Zoom III
NO one is faster than Zoom
NO one is faster than Zoom
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#33  Edited By Ego
One-Above-All said:
"MotorSteel said:
"Can someone clarify? Zoom alters the time flow to make everything else around him seem as if it has stopped correct? So he doesn't have superspeed at all?"
I'm pretty sure he doesn't have super speed, but I think he has some form of super endurance, since he was able to run around the world."

yeah, when it seems like he can run around the world in a mere second due to him stopping time. it actually took him like a year to run around it.
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#34  Edited By MotorSteel
Methos said:
"MotorSteel said:
"Can someone clarify? Zoom alters the time flow to make everything else around him seem as if it has stopped correct? So he doesn't have superspeed at all?"

Zoom has the ability to alter time relative to himself, as opposed to utilizing the Speed Force like most of the DC Universe speedsters do. He can apparently use this ability to move at speeds rivaling those of even Wally West, and usually faster than the speeds that even Wally can muster in most cases; rather than actually time travelling, Zoom is controlling the speed at which time flows around him, allowing him to go faster or slower in time than everyone around him. Since Zoom isn't actually moving at superspeed,rather, he is greatly slowing down Time relative to himself, and can make himself so "fast" that even most of the Flashes look to him to be moving in slow motion.

M"
Oh I see. Thank you for the clarification. I wasn't sure of his powers before.
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#35  Edited By Methos
Ego said:
time is very powerful weapon. since superman and flash are just super fast. zoom is actually a slow normal walking guy.. but to control time, how is any one with out the same power or super smart able to stop someone who controls times?


apparently from the feats..

zoom can beat...


juggernaut
onsluaght
cyborg superman
shaggy man
ghost rider
ego
professor x
phoenix
harry potter
hancock
gladiator
flash
sentry
the coverfield monster
max pain
the punisher
batmite
the collector
the stranger

ok, i disagree with a lot of those because while Zoom is controlling time to an extent to make himself faster than a Flash, he still has a basic human physiology and doesn't have the Speed Force to back up his power to an extent where he could harm anyone with superstrength or invincibility.

so out of your list, Zoom would be unable to harm...

Juggernaut
Cyborg Superman
Hancock
Gladiator
Sentry
Batmite

and possibly a few more that i'd need to read up on

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#36  Edited By Forever
Methos said:
"ok, i disagree with a lot of those because while Zoom is controlling time to an extent to make himself faster than a Flash, he still has a basic human physiology and doesn't have the Speed Force to back up his power to an extent where he could harm anyone with superstrength or invincibility.

so out of your list, Zoom would be unable to harm...

Juggernaut
Cyborg Superman
Hancock
Gladiator
Sentry
Batmite

and possibly a few more that i'd need to read up on

M"

Surely you meant to say Batmite.
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Ego said:
ghost rider

I kinda disagree with that
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#38  Edited By Methos

huh...

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#39  Edited By One-Above-All

I thought Zoom's hits feel like a punch from Superman since he is punching at the speed of light?

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One-Above-All said:
"I thought Zoom hits feel like a punch from Superman since he is punching at the speed of light?

caption
caption
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he does, simply because of his powers he can accelerate incredibly rapidly.  force is mass multiplied by acceleration.  Multiply the mass of zoom's fist or foot by the acceleration he can achieve, and you have a massive amount of force.
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#41  Edited By Methos
One-Above-All said:
"I thought Zoom's hits feel like a punch from Superman since he is punching at the speed of light?

"

I disagree with that...

Zoom doesn't have the speed, or the mass to punch Wonder Woman or Superman like that...

while i do believe that he could beat them, i don't agree that his punches would have that much effect as he doesn't have the speed in real time physics to aqquire any extra mass

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Methos said:
"huh...

M"
I'm not exactly sure Zoom could beat Ghost Rider
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#43  Edited By Ego
Vance Astro said:
"Ego said:
"Methos said:
"
caption
Well here's Zoom kicking the crap out of Wonder Woman...

what makes anyone think Spiderman can do any better than an Amazon Goddess?

M
"
time is very powerful weapon. since superman and flash are just super fast. zoom is actually a slow normal walking guy.. but to control time, how is any one with out the same power or super smart able to stop someone who controls times?


apparently from the feats..

zoom can beat...


juggernaut
onsluaght
cyborg superman
shaggy man
ghost rider
ego
professor x
phoenix
harry potter
hancock
gladiator
flash
sentry
the coverfield monster
max pain
the punisher
batmite
the collector
the stranger


"
Zoom cannot beat the Cloverfield Monster or Bat-Mite..or the Phoenix....or Onslaught.....WTF are you talking about?"

you and others say that zoom > superman & flash...


superman can beat the cloverfield monster, correct?
superman at his most powerful form can break onsluahgt correct?
flash is faster than pheonix yes?
batmite is just a reality wraper, yea?


sooo if none of these guys have TIME ON THERE SIDE... they all lose!

superman can beat the cloverfield monster, but zoom can beat superman.
flash is faster than phenix but zoom runs laps around him.
batmite needs time to alter things but without time he can't wish.



see.
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#44  Edited By Forever
Methos said:
"huh...

M"
My mistake.   I'm reading something else as well and my eyes misread what you had posted.
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#45  Edited By One-Above-All
Ego said:
you and others say that zoom > superman & flash...


superman can beat the cloverfield monster, correct? -  Rock beats scissors but scissors beats paper which beats rock. Why is that?
superman at his most powerful form can break onsluahgt correct? -  Superman Prime One million > Zoom.....
flash is faster than pheonix yes? -  So?
batmite is just a reality wraper, yea? -  ........ And what exactly is Zoom going to do to Bat-Mite?


sooo if none of these guys have TIME ON THERE SIDE... they all lose! -  Wrong, they all beat Zoom. Except for The Cloverfield Monster, which I know nothing about so I won't say anything
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#46  Edited By Ego
Methos said:
"Ego said:
time is very powerful weapon. since superman and flash are just super fast. zoom is actually a slow normal walking guy.. but to control time, how is any one with out the same power or super smart able to stop someone who controls times?


apparently from the feats..

zoom can beat...


juggernaut
onsluaght
cyborg superman
shaggy man
ghost rider
ego
professor x
phoenix
harry potter
hancock
gladiator
flash
sentry
the coverfield monster
max pain
the punisher
batmite
the collector
the stranger

ok, i disagree with a lot of those because while Zoom is controlling time to an extent to make himself faster than a Flash, he still has a basic human physiology and doesn't have the Speed Force to back up his power to an extent where he could harm anyone with superstrength or invincibility.

so out of your list, Zoom would be unable to harm...

Juggernaut
Cyborg Superman
Hancock
Gladiator
Sentry
Batmite

and possibly a few more that i'd need to read up on

M"

but wonderwoman said zoom hits harder than superman... why is that?
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#47  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Ego said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Ego said:
"Methos said:
"
caption
Well here's Zoom kicking the crap out of Wonder Woman...

what makes anyone think Spiderman can do any better than an Amazon Goddess?

M
"
time is very powerful weapon. since superman and flash are just super fast. zoom is actually a slow normal walking guy.. but to control time, how is any one with out the same power or super smart able to stop someone who controls times?


apparently from the feats..

zoom can beat...


juggernaut
onsluaght
cyborg superman
shaggy man
ghost rider
ego
professor x
phoenix
harry potter
hancock
gladiator
flash
sentry
the coverfield monster
max pain
the punisher
batmite
the collector
the stranger


"
Zoom cannot beat the Cloverfield Monster or Bat-Mite..or the Phoenix....or Onslaught.....WTF are you talking about?"

you and others say that zoom > superman & flash...


superman can beat the cloverfield monster, correct?
superman at his most powerful form can break onsluahgt correct?
flash is faster than pheonix yes?
batmite is just a reality wraper, yea?


sooo if none of these guys have TIME ON THERE SIDE... they all lose!

superman can beat the cloverfield monster, but zoom can beat superman.
flash is faster than phenix but zoom runs laps around him.
batmite needs time to alter things but without time he can't wish.



see.
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How can Superman beat something that hasn't proven to be able to be hurt?
How can Superman beat one of Marvel's most powerful reality warpers?
Flash might be faster Phoenix but can't beat her
Yes Batmite is a reality warper.....

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#48  Edited By Ego
One-Above-All said:
"I thought Zoom's hits feel like a punch from Superman since he is punching at the speed of light?

"

you just agreed that he controls time, not move or hit faster than light.
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#49  Edited By Ego
Vance Astro said:
"Ego said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Ego said:
"Methos said:
"
caption
Well here's Zoom kicking the crap out of Wonder Woman...

what makes anyone think Spiderman can do any better than an Amazon Goddess?

M
"
time is very powerful weapon. since superman and flash are just super fast. zoom is actually a slow normal walking guy.. but to control time, how is any one with out the same power or super smart able to stop someone who controls times?


apparently from the feats..

zoom can beat...


juggernaut
onsluaght
cyborg superman
shaggy man
ghost rider
ego
professor x
phoenix
harry potter
hancock
gladiator
flash
sentry
the coverfield monster
max pain
the punisher
batmite
the collector
the stranger


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Zoom cannot beat the Cloverfield Monster or Bat-Mite..or the Phoenix....or Onslaught.....WTF are you talking about?"

you and others say that zoom > superman & flash...


superman can beat the cloverfield monster, correct?
superman at his most powerful form can break onsluahgt correct?
flash is faster than pheonix yes?
batmite is just a reality wraper, yea?


sooo if none of these guys have TIME ON THERE SIDE... they all lose!

superman can beat the cloverfield monster, but zoom can beat superman.
flash is faster than phenix but zoom runs laps around him.
batmite needs time to alter things but without time he can't wish.



see.
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How can Superman beat something that hasn't proven to be able to be hurt?
How can Superman beat one of Marvel's most powerful reality warpers?
Flash might be faster Phoenix but can't beat her
Yes Batmite is a reality warper.....

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the point vance and above you is that.. statues don't move. if you can't move. you can't win.
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#50  Edited By One-Above-All
Ego said:
"One-Above-All said:
"I thought Zoom's hits feel like a punch from Superman since he is punching at the speed of light?

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you just agreed that he controls time, not move or hit faster than light.
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He is moving faster than light to others.