Spiderman vs Masterchief

What I'm asking is if he has feats to back up these supposed stats? Because I certainly don't recall any.

You should ask them @cadencev2 and @deranged_midget. Honestly, in my opinion, if Master Chief hurt his leg after sprinting 90 or 100 mph, then he shouldn't even have the audacity to have supersonic reflexes (which is what 100x human reflexes will give you).

I personally do not believe Master Chief is a 100 times faster than a peak human at all. In fact alot of his feats completely suggest otherwise. Its just some silly statement in a novel of his reaction time that is completely unsupported by his feats.

So do we agree that beings like Spider-Man, Raiden, or Dragonborn are faster than Master Chief and can speed-blitz him? Can we agree on that?

I thought Master Chief had 75 times that of an average human (inside his suit)? Based on my math anyway. Average human = 300 millisecond, MC in his suit = 4 millisecond. 300/4 = 75.

I generally accepted MC with 4 millisecond because him suit is said to amp the users abilities by a factor of 5. 20 milliseconds/5 = 4 milliseconds. This could possibly be faster because MC evolves but that's the general number I give him. Also his strength is 3.5 ton at least. Not sure if that was recorded with or without his suit. His durability will be a problem for Spidey though.

He doesn't really have feats that put him this fast but he did pretty much solo entire Promethean armies that have weapons that would turn his armour to ash. Even though it was off panel, sort of.

IMO MC takes 6/10.

One more thing. Spider-Man has the speed (equates to force) and strength to punch a hole through Spartan-IIs armor & body.

Evidence? The Mjolnir armour has tanked an excessive force of 400k Newtons from falling from space... Twice. When has Spiderman dished out that much force?

And, in those same games, he can get bludgeoned to death by people far below Spider-man's weight class.

Current Scorpion can literally laugh off falls from terminal velocity and Spider-man has downed him with one hit on two occasions.

@vegandiet: That's gameplay mechanics. Also its non canon if you die. That's not the point I was getting at though, the previous argument was that Spidey can put holes in the Mjolnir.

He's torn through or damaged Iron Man's armors on a few occasions. I'm fairly certain Iron Man's armors are more durable than the Chief's.

And, in those same games, he can get bludgeoned to death by people far below Spider-man's weight class.

@monsterstomp That's a game mechanic. I think cut-scenes are fine but I don't think in game feats should be accepted from any game. Otherwise you then also have to accept Chief lifting a scorpion tank as a feat and other stuff that you know just shouldn't be.

Just to set the record straight on Chief's reaction time, he's got a 20 millisecond base reaction time, that's outside of the armor at rest. With adrenaline pumping that's reduced significantly, and inside the armor it's reduced to almost 0. That was the problem with the Mjolnir armor, it makes the body move at the speed of thought which killed every non-super soldier who tried to use it.

OP states he has Cortana so the intelligence factor actually goes to him. I don't see that changing anything but I'd thought I'd mention it since someone gave it to Peter a couple pages ago.

Also, I'm not too sure how spider sense works but with cortana using more and more data from Peter's dodging to predict his dodge pattern would that help land a blow?

That question was just for curiosity sake, because everything I said was just to clarify things and doesn't matter in this fight at all. <s>Peter is going to web him up from the start and that's the end folks.</s>

EDIT: Scratch that, I just remembered that chief's shield is an almost frictionless surface. Does anyone know if Spider-man's webbing has a problem sticking to really slippery stuff?

Umm.... okay? I didn't say he couldn't?

It's been able to take shots from the Hulk, and Namor on a consistent basis.

It even managed to take a few shots from an angry Thor before it was dismantled.

No? I haven't? Re-read my first post.

And again, Spider-man has torn through Scorpion's armor before. Scorpion's armor is capable of tanking falls from terminal velocity.

And I highly doubt Master Chief is even arguably as fast as Spider-man.

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If these uploaded right:

In the first two scans, he outraces an electrical blast, after it's fired, and moves the target out of the way.

In the next two, he outraces a bullet to it's target and moves them out of the way.

He's also webbed bullets out of the air and dodges lightning on a consistent basis, on one occasion without his spider sense.

My first post about the Iron Man armors. I didn't say anything about them being damaged when Spidey fought them.

Maybe you should look at it. Because I say he's "He's torn through or damaged" the armors, not that they were damaged when he tore through them.

Ooo my bad lol. I'll pick this up later.

It's cool dude.

Master Chief is not as fast as Spidey. Spider-Man can run over 200 mph. MC runs 45 mph! Peter has way faster limbs so all these lies about Master Chief's "reaction time", well, John will see him coming but is too slow to do anything about it.

I must wonder, does Spidey ever break the sound barrier when he does those super fast jumps?

Spidey can run over 200 mph?!? Really?!? Since when?!? Scans if you don't mind?

Either way, I'm not entirely sure who I think will win...my first thought was Spider Man, since it would be extremely hard for MC to tag him without PIS. But now that I think about it, MC has millisecond reaction time correct? While Spidey still has him beat, I guess slower people have tagged Spidey, so I suppose MC could!

Aside from speed and agility, it just seems that MC has every other advantage. Superior strength, durability, technology, and intelligence. On top of that, his hand to hand is debatably better too. Debatably.

Ultimately, at the moment, I'd probably give it to MC 8/10!

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Master Chief fell from LOW ORBIT holding onto a piece of debris. Totally different from actually falling from space.

Spoodermin takes this. Faster, strong, spider sense, webs that Master Chief can't break out of, etc.

Master Chief flip tanks and buses weighting 50 ton plus. Spiderman stopped a train by the help of web. Which might require about 5 ton strength. Spiderman fight criminals. Chief fights aliens and space ships bigger than cities. I don't actually think the web has any effect on him because of the armor. It's shield wont let the web stuck him. It would burn the web and then chief takes a gravity gun slow spidy down and break his back.

Thats game mechanics Master Chief never done that in a cut scene. Stopped a train? Spider-man has lifted a train lol:

@strider92: You really think spidy is stronger than chief? And besides his shield wont let web harm him.

@jmarshmallow: He can't run that fast. He can barely catch up with a limo in the comics by running. Master Chief runs 300mp/h

Spider-Man is significantly stronger than Chief. At minimum Spider-Man is a 10 tonner, and his upper limits are in the high 20-tons. No way Chief is competing with that. Flipping tanks is merely game mechanics. Master Chief had trouble taking on a Brute in a wrestling match, who are 3-tonners. Granted he had internal damage and malfunctioning energy shields, I could double that and he would only be in the 6 ton range. I did some calculations and John is around the 2 tonner range.

Yep he has much better strength feats by far.

Not sure if there's anything Spider-Man has in his power to get through John's armour. Webbing might work. I'll call stalemate.

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: lol that is like saying Spider man lose against Bane in a wrestling match. Which everyone should be certain of. Chiefs main thing is not strength. It is His guns and plasma/energy sword. Im pretty sure if even peter touch it he dies. And flipping tanks was not only game mechanics. And it takes an hell of a strength to do that. Scorpion tanks are about 60 tons i read and stick like glue to the ground. Game mech counts as much as comic feats does.

I never said Master Chief would lose, I'm just refuting your point that Chief is a 50 tonner. He isn't. Flipping tanks is only game mechanics. Chief has never done anything like that in the canon novels or graphic novel adaptations. Not even close. Heck, even Bungie developers themselves joke about how the game mechanics allow John to lift things he shouldn't be able to.

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: Its not that one i ment. I mean in Halo 2 he flipped a Scorpion.

I don't remember this. I'm also pretty sure Chief flipping a tank is confirmed as game mechanics.

Spider-man would not lose a wrestling match to Bane.

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And Spider-man has torn through armor that's survived terminal velocity falls. He should be able to break MC's armor no prob.

Yep, still Spider-Man.

Masterchief blitzes and then t-bags, GG.

In the amazing spiderman 2 game he has ionic webbing which eats away all metal allowing spiderman to breach the suit

I gotta go with spiderman

Spidey takes this.

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And don't bump threads where I'm still a noob.

Spidey could easily web his guns and render them useless. In fact, the webbing alone should give Spidey the win.

@spideypresence: a Spartans average intelligence is around 300 iq. Add cortana to that he is much smarter then Peter Parker

@noah_ouellette: Can John do anything with that IQ? Peter can

IQ means sh!t in application

@jacthripper: if you honestly think intelligence has nothing to do with fighting you should never ever come on comicvine again. Master chief would easily see through how Spider-Man fights and his tactics. And just devise a way to win and do it.

@noah_ouellette: IQ is a number, has John shown anything that puts him in a whole other league from Peter tactically? Considering that peter wins most of his fights through tactics, not PIS or gameplay, he is possibly a better tactician by feats. Iron Man stated that Peter was smarter than him, Iron Man predicted the Civil War years before it happened. Does this mean Spidey is better than Tony in a combat scenario? No! Smarts do not make that much of a difference in a hopelessly mismatched fight.

John 117 can't win.

Spider-Man 9.5/10.

@jacthripper: John wins all his fights.. With tactics.

@noah_ouellette: And Peter wins most of his with tactics. That, combined with the fact that he's out of Johns league physically, means he wins almost every time.