Spiderman vs Darth Vader

This would be impressive if Vader hadn't done the same things. Faster than the eye can track isn't quantifiable, and i can easily bring up accounts of Vader doing the exact same thing. Dodging lasers isn't that impressive in star wars terms and Vader has blocked and dodged multiple lasers with ease, in some cases scoring headshots with the deflections. Not to mention blitzing multiple Jedi who can do the same thing and who have force precog. I admit this fight is not a stomp for Vader but only because Vader is getting crippled by having 75% of his abilities removed.

Fodder Jedi not showing said abilities doesn't matter. Also I was arguing against Vader being faster than him, because he has no speed feats that are above Spidey's by any margin. And what seems to be posted here, he doesn't fair very well against very agile opponents.

Fair enough. Assuming Spiderman is around Vader's speed I could see him being outmanuvered by Spidey's agility. I just think the durability gap is too high. Spiderman has never shown durability that lets him tank room sized explosions point blank and just getting knocked over and sustaining slight armor damage. Also he wasn't only blitzing nameless Jedi Knights, he was blitzing Masters and people close to being on par with Obi-Wan.

Spider-Man curbstomps

I'd say Spiderman. But then again I'm a star wars newbie so I don't know for sure

movie star wars and "canon" star wars should be seperate entities

I think Darth Maul is a much better match up for Spiderman just because he may be able to match his speed. Maul is also a very skilled fighter and that may cause some serious issues for Spiderman given that most of his villains were normal people at some point.---Anyway, for sure have to go with Spiderman here just because Vader seems too bulky and no where near the same speed. The only thing he may have in his favor is the force but that all comes down to if it can be countered by spider sense and vice versa. Too many variables with that part of the argument if you ask me..

Im supporting vader here for the majority.

Spider-Man, to fast and all he needs is one hit.

I-Five suddenly whipped up his left hand, index finger extended, and fired a laser beam at Jax. The laser beam splashed off the ionized fire that suddenly coated the length of the blade, which Jax had automatically raised to block the beam.

"That's how," I-Five said. "The speed of light is just under three hundred kilometers per second. You are currently seven-point-three meters from me. Your Force-augmented anticipatory reflex action obviously is working fine. You just have to let them."

Source: Coruscant NightsII: Street of Shadows

Depending on how you interpret it, you could take that as lightspeed.

I obviously don't believe Vader's lightspeed, but if we're gonna use faulty statements for SpiderMan, lets use them for Vader, as well. Even things out, a bit.

@wollfmyth209: Still isn't faster than Spidey. And if that jedi wasn't using precog, nor shown using it, then don't assume he has. That in itself is faulty, speak with feats.

@heatblaze123:

Still isn't faster than Spidey.

Yes he is. SpiderMan's a street-leveler. Vader has humiliated people faster than that in speed.

And if that jedi wasn't using precog, nor shown using it, then don't assume he has. That in itself is faulty, speak with feats.

You clearly lack knowledge of Star Wars. All Jedi know and use precognition. It's very basic. Even fodder have and can use it.

@heatblaze123: the fact you do not realize minor Precog is inherent in all Jedi/Sith, in fact it's the reason they can use Lightsabers without harming themselves, shows you are not qualified to judge this match.

He's out of his comfort zone fighting hand to hand. As a man with weighted metal hands and legs, he tends to rely purely on his brute strength to overwhelm his opponents. An example of this is was his skirmish with Shale, a featless non force-sensitive human. Vader was injured here, but he was amped with force rage and bloodlusted.

It goes to show that two punches from a bloodlusted Vader weren't able to knock a man unconscious, let alone kill him.

While Peter has to restrict himself heavily against the same type of opponents...

As for the other strength feats @heatblaze123 posted, Vader would need to use his TK to replicate them. That's how far out of his depth he is here.

These are Vaders best strength feats in comics:

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Thinking about it, this fight is in the realm of mismatch

Were you not trying to argue that Vader could beat Palpetine in another thread?

@redranger: what does Legends Vader feats surpassing Canon Palpatines feats have anything to do with this thread?

Interesting, were you also trying to argue that Dooku was more powerful than all ancient sith lords

@redranger said:

@visemoon said:

Has Vader (or any force user)even displayed hand to hand combat?

He's out of his comfort zone fighting hand to hand. As a man with weighted metal hands and legs, he tends to rely purely on his brute strength to overwhelm his opponents. An example of this is was his skirmish with Shale, a featless non force-sensitive human. Vader was injured here, but he was amped with force rage and bloodlusted.

It goes to show that two punches from a bloodlusted Vader weren't able to knock a man unconscious, let alone kill him.

While Peter has to restrict himself heavily against the same type of opponents...

As for the other strength feats @heatblaze123 posted, Vader would need to use his TK to replicate them. That's how far out of his depth he is here.

These are Vaders best strength feats in comics:

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That's what I thought. Thanks :-)

@visemoon said:

@redranger said:

@visemoon said:

Has Vader (or any force user)even displayed hand to hand combat?

He's out of his comfort zone fighting hand to hand. As a man with weighted metal hands and legs, he tends to rely purely on his brute strength to overwhelm his opponents. An example of this is was his skirmish with Shale, a featless non force-sensitive human. Vader was injured here, but he was amped with force rage and bloodlusted.

It goes to show that two punches from a bloodlusted Vader weren't able to knock a man unconscious, let alone kill him.

While Peter has to restrict himself heavily against the same type of opponents...

As for the other strength feats @heatblaze123 posted, Vader would need to use his TK to replicate them. That's how far out of his depth he is here.

These are Vaders best strength feats in comics:

Gallery

That's what I thought. Thanks :-)

Ditto, thanks Red.

@redranger: by feats, Dooku is more powerful than 90% of the old Sith. At least in TK and skill. Certain Sith Lords like Traya blow him away in TP ability and Farsight as well Life Drain. Nadd and say Sagow are better with Sith Socery. However 90% of them don't have the speed feats, skill feats, or TK feats to match Dooku.

Damn this is hard... going with spider I guess

Spider-Man is faster by actual feats. Much faster. He snaps Vader's neck.

LOL.

Vader wins on account of speed, but nothing else, really.

Spider-Man dies.

Because Vader abuses will rag doll Peter.

It's a true story.

Darth Vader only because of his force. Other than that... Spidey wins

I don't see proof that those blaster bolts are even faster than a softball. They are super slow.

vader chokes him

Then you need to get in touch with the EU, my friend. Those blasters are stated as hypersonic. The movie is just slowed down so we can actually see the people in question move.

@wollfmyth209: Thanks man.

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@ordeith: how is he more durable?

Why would he knock out a man when he's asking him where his wife is? Also that wasn't Shale but Tarkin's son.

Bumping old threads for fun. Let's see what a modern audience has to say about this.

Assuming, Disney canon Vader, Spider-Man should win this pretty easily. No lightsaber or external force powers are serious nerfs for Vader.

Vader.