Eternal Chaos says:
"Venom wins. Ask Forever. Ask Buckshot. Everybody agrees. Venom destroys 99. It's a fact."
Ditto
Eternal Chaos says:
"Venom wins. Ask Forever. Ask Buckshot. Everybody agrees. Venom destroys 99. It's a fact."
ah whatever lets call it a draw
spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:"Venom wins. Ask Forever. Ask Buckshot. Everybody agrees. Venom destroys 99. It's a fact."ah whatever lets call it a draw"
Lol. No I refuse. Just say Venom wins and it ends. Venom's stronger, more aggressive, more brutal, has a wider range of powers and isn't being controlled by writers. He wins.
Eternal Chaos says:
"spiderman0409 says:"Eternal Chaos says:Lol. No I refuse. Just say Venom wins and it ends. Venom's stronger, more aggressive, more brutal, has a wider range of powers and isn't being controlled by writers. He wins.""Venom wins. Ask Forever. Ask Buckshot. Everybody agrees. Venom destroys 99. It's a fact."ah whatever lets call it a draw"
spiderman poison is able to affect Thanatos. and has talos which hurts venom alot and here is another reason why i think spiderman 2099 wins just read what i post here
Powers and abilities
Spider-Man 2099's hybrid human/spider physiology gives him a wide array of powers. He has the proportionate strength, speed and agility of a spider, which allows him to lift many times his own body weight, perform complicated acrobatic and gymnastic maneuvers that would be impossible for even the most highly-trained athlete, and jump great distances. His durability was also increased to a point where in an issue he suffered a punctured lung, broken ribs, major abrasions and bruises, and made it to a hospital in time where a doctor told him he has amazing constitution for him to be alive. He also notably heals faster than a normal human, but does not have a healing factor (he would not have needed a doctor if he did). Notably absent from his suite of powers is a "Spider-Sense", probably due to the fact that it would no doubt be far more difficult to produce via genetic manipulation. Despite this fact, Spider-Man 2099 seems nearly as flexible, acrobatic, and evasive as his namesake. Though he claims to not have been in a fight since he was a child, Miguel quickly develops an effective fighting style that capitalizes on his unique abilities as well as his genius-level intelligence.
Spinnerets in his forearms enable him to fire organic spider-webbing from the top of his wrists, usable in a wide variety of ways. Like his predecessor, Spider-Man 2099 can travel at high speeds swinging on "weblines" when necessary, and he can use his webbing to ensnare enemies. Retractable talons in his fingertips and toes enable him to climb walls or cut enemies. Though they are rather short (approximately an inch long), they are extremely sharp, and seem strong enough to resist breakage despite his enhanced strength - Miguel has shown capable of rending metal armour on numerous occasions. These talons acted instinctively at first, and it took practice to retract them properly (making short work of his bedsheets while sleeping).
He possesses venom glands and slightly enlarged, pointed canines (which are not entirely dissimilar to a vampire), which allows him to paralyze his foes should he choose to bite them. While the exact makeup of his venom has never been discussed, it seems powerful enough to affect such foes as Thanatos - and it differs from real spider venom in that it does not seem to act as a digestive agent in addition to its paralytic properties.
Compensating for his lack of a "Spider-Sense", his hearing exceeds the acuity of a normal human, as does his vision - he can see extremely well over both long distances ("telescopic" vision) and in low-light conditions. In addition to the generally enhanced properties of his vision, the flicker-fusion rate of his retinas is reduced to such an extent that he can easily perceive fast-moving objects that would appear to others as a blur. A side effect of his visual enhancements are the color of his eyes - they are generally drawn as having red irises, making sunglasses a regular part of Miguel's wardrobe. When trying to perform "damage control" with his girlfriend early on in the original series, Miguel told Dana that as a result of breaking his genetically-coded Rapture addiction, his eyes were now more sensitive to light and that his jaw hurt (allowing him to more easily hide his red eyes and pointed teeth).
His web cape, which he obtained from a Thorite (Worshiper of Thor), is made from the Lyte Byte material commonly used in the manufacturing of hang-gliders, and acts as an air foil, allowing him to glide on air currents for a short period of time, as well as slow his rate of descent and control his direction in freefall. Coupled with his superhuman strength and agility, the Lite-Byte cloth allows him near-immunity to damage from falls - on numerous occasions, he has leapt from the top of tall buildings with no apparent ill effects upon landing.
just read it i got it from wikipedia
I just read it. I'm not impressed. Venom is stronger than him, about as fast maybe a little slower, his symbiote is complex and he can do anything he wants. His webbing is organic as well, he has teeth can can slice right through flesh, and he's more versitile. 99 is dead, that's all there is to it.
Eternal Chaos says:
"I just read it. I'm not impressed. Venom is stronger than him, about as fast maybe a little slower, his symbiote is complex and he can do anything he wants. His webbing is organic as well, he has teeth can can slice right through flesh, and he's more versitile. 99 is dead, that's all there is to it."
spidy has talons that can rip the symbiote to shreads and all he has to do make one rip in the symbiote and bites brock which should affect him like right away and while the symbiote trys to stop the poison thats where spiderman 2099 comes in and punches venom slice him up with his talons and bam there is venom are the ground beaten
spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:"I just read it. I'm not impressed. Venom is stronger than him, about as fast maybe a little slower, his symbiote is complex and he can do anything he wants. His webbing is organic as well, he has teeth can can slice right through flesh, and he's more versitile. 99 is dead, that's all there is to it."spidy has talons that can rip the symbiote to shreads and all he has to do make one rip in the symbiote and bites brock which should affect him like right away and while the symbiote trys to stop the poison thats where spiderman 2099 comes in and punches venom slice him up with his talons and bam there is venom are the ground beaten"
Who says 99 is going to even have time? Venom will try to web his hands, and jump at him, 99 jumps back Venom sends the symbiote on the ground and grabs his feet when he lands and breaks his legs.
Eternal Chaos says:
"spiderman0409 says:"Eternal Chaos says:Who says 99 is going to even have time? Venom will try to web his hands, and jump at him, 99 jumps back Venom sends the symbiote on the ground and grabs his feet when he lands and breaks his legs. ""I just read it. I'm not impressed. Venom is stronger than him, about as fast maybe a little slower, his symbiote is complex and he can do anything he wants. His webbing is organic as well, he has teeth can can slice right through flesh, and he's more versitile. 99 is dead, that's all there is to it."spidy has talons that can rip the symbiote to shreads and all he has to do make one rip in the symbiote and bites brock which should affect him like right away and while the symbiote trys to stop the poison thats where spiderman 2099 comes in and punches venom slice him up with his talons and bam there is venom are the ground beaten"
well spidy could web him so much that venom can't move then when he finally comes out there comes 2099 slash the symbiote bites brock and does everything i just said
spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:"spiderman0409 says:well spidy could web him so much that venom can't move then when he finally comes out there comes 2099 slash the symbiote bites brock and does everything i just said""Eternal Chaos says:Who says 99 is going to even have time? Venom will try to web his hands, and jump at him, 99 jumps back Venom sends the symbiote on the ground and grabs his feet when he lands and breaks his legs. ""I just read it. I'm not impressed. Venom is stronger than him, about as fast maybe a little slower, his symbiote is complex and he can do anything he wants. His webbing is organic as well, he has teeth can can slice right through flesh, and he's more versitile. 99 is dead, that's all there is to it."spidy has talons that can rip the symbiote to shreads and all he has to do make one rip in the symbiote and bites brock which should affect him like right away and while the symbiote trys to stop the poison thats where spiderman 2099 comes in and punches venom slice him up with his talons and bam there is venom are the ground beaten"
You make it seem like Venom would just stand there. Venom would probably grab the webbing, and pull 99 into a punch.
Eternal Chaos says:
"spiderman0409 says:"Eternal Chaos says:You make it seem like Venom would just stand there. Venom would probably grab the webbing, and pull 99 into a punch.""spiderman0409 says:well spidy could web him so much that venom can't move then when he finally comes out there comes 2099 slash the symbiote bites brock and does everything i just said""Eternal Chaos says:Who says 99 is going to even have time? Venom will try to web his hands, and jump at him, 99 jumps back Venom sends the symbiote on the ground and grabs his feet when he lands and breaks his legs. ""I just read it. I'm not impressed. Venom is stronger than him, about as fast maybe a little slower, his symbiote is complex and he can do anything he wants. His webbing is organic as well, he has teeth can can slice right through flesh, and he's more versitile. 99 is dead, that's all there is to it."spidy has talons that can rip the symbiote to shreads and all he has to do make one rip in the symbiote and bites brock which should affect him like right away and while the symbiote trys to stop the poison thats where spiderman 2099 comes in and punches venom slice him up with his talons and bam there is venom are the ground beaten"
venom grabs a bunch of webbing? remember the fight with morlun the first one where he use a bunch of webbing to cover him up woth webs
He didn't web him. He webbed up the surrounding area which was kind of like webbing him up. But that was a desperate move. 99 wouldn't do that against Venom because he wouldn't think he needs to. He shoots out normal webs, Venom either dodges and grabs, or shoots his own webbing.
Eternal Chaos says:
"He didn't web him. He webbed up the surrounding area which was kind of like webbing him up. But that was a desperate move. 99 wouldn't do that against Venom because he wouldn't think he needs to. He shoots out normal webs, Venom either dodges and grabs, or shoots his own webbing."
spidy dodge those webs to and if any webs hit him he will slice them up
Not if he's not given time. Venom catches him, pulls him into him, keeps webbing him on the way, kills him. No more 99. Compare their abilities. Look at their showings, Venom is obviously superior.
Eternal Chaos says:
"Not if he's not given time. Venom catches him, pulls him into him, keeps webbing him on the way, kills him. No more 99. Compare their abilities. Look at their showings, Venom is obviously superior."
thats what i'm saying what if he keeps webbing venom and goes do all that stuff i've been saying
spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:"Not if he's not given time. Venom catches him, pulls him into him, keeps webbing him on the way, kills him. No more 99. Compare their abilities. Look at their showings, Venom is obviously superior."thats what i'm saying what if he keeps webbing venom and goes do all that stuff i've been saying"
Who says he's going to be able to?
Eternal Chaos says:
"spiderman0409 says:"Eternal Chaos says:Who says he's going to be able to?""Not if he's not given time. Venom catches him, pulls him into him, keeps webbing him on the way, kills him. No more 99. Compare their abilities. Look at their showings, Venom is obviously superior."thats what i'm saying what if he keeps webbing venom and goes do all that stuff i've been saying"
well then who says venom will be able to
spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:"spiderman0409 says:well then who says venom will be able to""Eternal Chaos says:Who says he's going to be able to?""Not if he's not given time. Venom catches him, pulls him into him, keeps webbing him on the way, kills him. No more 99. Compare their abilities. Look at their showings, Venom is obviously superior."thats what i'm saying what if he keeps webbing venom and goes do all that stuff i've been saying"
His fighting stats. Ok, here's a tale for you. Venom charges into 99, 99 jumps and tries to slash him but Venom either slaps him or grabs him with his symbiote and slams him down. 99 jumps up from the damage, but Venom is invisible, not moving. 99 tries to listen but doesn't hear the silence of the suit creeping along the floor. Suit grabs him he's dead. no more 99
Eternal Chaos says:
"I just read it. I'm not impressed. Venom is stronger than him, about as fast maybe a little slower, his symbiote is complex and he can do anything he wants. His webbing is organic as well, he has teeth can can slice right through flesh, and he's more versitile. 99 is dead, that's all there is to it."
you said he is a little slower then 2099 which he can use easily to dodge and find the right moment to attack and you keep saying venom will use the symbiote he doesn't use it alot though
spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:"I just read it. I'm not impressed. Venom is stronger than him, about as fast maybe a little slower, his symbiote is complex and he can do anything he wants. His webbing is organic as well, he has teeth can can slice right through flesh, and he's more versitile. 99 is dead, that's all there is to it."you said he is a little slower then 2099 which he can use easily to dodge and find the right moment to attack and you keep saying venom will use the symbiote he doesn't use it alot though"
I said maybe it's possible he's faster. I personally feel he's faster and you know he always uses the symbiote, not on a massive scale like Carnage and Toxin, but you know he uses it often.
Eternal Chaos says:
"spiderman0409 says:"Eternal Chaos says:I said *maybe* it's possible he's faster. I personally feel he's faster and you know he always uses the symbiote, not on a massive scale like Carnage and Toxin, but you know he uses it often.""I just read it. I'm not impressed. Venom is stronger than him, about as fast maybe a little slower, his symbiote is complex and he can do anything he wants. His webbing is organic as well, he has teeth can can slice right through flesh, and he's more versitile. 99 is dead, that's all there is to it."you said he is a little slower then 2099 which he can use easily to dodge and find the right moment to attack and you keep saying venom will use the symbiote he doesn't use it alot though"
i know but what i mean is venom is mostly up close with fists
Yes but even at that he uses it. He uses it to bring people in, or to do damage. Maximum Carnage shows that as do most of his crossovers.
Eternal Chaos says:
"Yes but even at that he uses it. He uses it to bring people in, or to do damage. Maximum Carnage shows that as do most of his crossovers."
Maximum Carnage shows what and seeing how we are talking about venom did you see what he look like in the spidermsn unlimited tv series
spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:"Yes but even at that he uses it. He uses it to bring people in, or to do damage. Maximum Carnage shows that as do most of his crossovers."Maximum Carnage shows what and seeing how we are talking about venom did you see what he look like in the spidermsn unlimited tv series"
Shows his use of the symbiote briefly, and yes I did see it, I hated it. He looked like a test tube baby.
Eternal Chaos says:
"spiderman0409 says:"Eternal Chaos says:Shows his use of the symbiote briefly, and yes I did see it, I hated it. He looked like a test tube baby.""Yes but even at that he uses it. He uses it to bring people in, or to do damage. Maximum Carnage shows that as do most of his crossovers."Maximum Carnage shows what and seeing how we are talking about venom did you see what he look like in the spidermsn unlimited tv series"
i know i was like what the hell
spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:"spiderman0409 says:i know i was like what the hell""Eternal Chaos says:Shows his use of the symbiote briefly, and yes I did see it, I hated it. He looked like a test tube baby.""Yes but even at that he uses it. He uses it to bring people in, or to do damage. Maximum Carnage shows that as do most of his crossovers."Maximum Carnage shows what and seeing how we are talking about venom did you see what he look like in the spidermsn unlimited tv series"
I was really pissed off. I'm like "WTF are you doing to this guy! Carnage looks like a girafe missing like 10 chromozones, and Venom looks like muscular turd."
Eternal Chaos says:
"spiderman0409 says:"Eternal Chaos says:I was really pissed off. I'm like "WTF are you doing to this guy! Carnage looks like a girafe missing like 10 chromozones, and Venom looks like muscular turd."""spiderman0409 says:i know i was like what the hell""Eternal Chaos says:Shows his use of the symbiote briefly, and yes I did see it, I hated it. He looked like a test tube baby.""Yes but even at that he uses it. He uses it to bring people in, or to do damage. Maximum Carnage shows that as do most of his crossovers."Maximum Carnage shows what and seeing how we are talking about venom did you see what he look like in the spidermsn unlimited tv series"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you called carnage a giraffe and venom a turd but i did like spiderman new costume i thought it was cool
"already happened,Spider-Man 2099 was winning until Venom ran away from the other heroes "
I actually just re-read the issue and even though S-M 2099 got that one good hit with his claws and surprised Venom, I think Venom was beating Miguel until he saw the "heroes" coming. Of course this is not to say that Miguel would not have come back and beat on Venom again.
Brock would beat his @$$
Hes stronger,more durable,more versatile,probably faster and more experienced. Brock also has some half decent agility feats too.
Plus O'Hara's claws hurting Brock is PIS, logan's claws did barley anything and bullets dont even phase him, some people think he was knocked over by them but the only time i saw that Brock was playing a joke on the cops.
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