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#101  Edited By Cryo-Wolf

Eternal Chaos says:

"Venom wins. Ask Forever. Ask Buckshot. Everybody agrees. Venom destroys 99. It's a fact."

Ditto

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#102  Edited By The Mighty Thor

Eternal Chaos says:

"Venom wins. Ask Forever. Ask Buckshot. Everybody agrees. Venom destroys 99. It's a fact."

ah whatever lets call it a draw

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#103  Edited By Eternal Chaos

spiderman0409 says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"Venom wins. Ask Forever. Ask Buckshot. Everybody agrees. Venom destroys 99. It's a fact."
ah whatever lets call it a draw"

Lol. No I refuse. Just say Venom wins and it ends. Venom's stronger, more aggressive, more brutal, has a wider range of powers and isn't being controlled by writers. He wins.

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#104  Edited By The Mighty Thor

Eternal Chaos says:

"spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"Venom wins. Ask Forever. Ask Buckshot. Everybody agrees. Venom destroys 99. It's a fact."
ah whatever lets call it a draw"
Lol. No I refuse. Just say Venom wins and it ends. Venom's stronger, more aggressive, more brutal, has a wider range of powers and isn't being controlled by writers. He wins."

spiderman poison is able to affect Thanatos. and has talos which hurts venom alot and here is another reason why i think spiderman 2099 wins just read what i post here

Powers and abilities

Spider-Man 2099's hybrid human/spider physiology gives him a wide array of powers. He has the proportionate strength, speed and agility of a spider, which allows him to lift many times his own body weight, perform complicated acrobatic and gymnastic maneuvers that would be impossible for even the most highly-trained athlete, and jump great distances. His durability was also increased to a point where in an issue he suffered a punctured lung, broken ribs, major abrasions and bruises, and made it to a hospital in time where a doctor told him he has amazing constitution for him to be alive. He also notably heals faster than a normal human, but does not have a healing factor (he would not have needed a doctor if he did). Notably absent from his suite of powers is a "Spider-Sense", probably due to the fact that it would no doubt be far more difficult to produce via genetic manipulation. Despite this fact, Spider-Man 2099 seems nearly as flexible, acrobatic, and evasive as his namesake. Though he claims to not have been in a fight since he was a child, Miguel quickly develops an effective fighting style that capitalizes on his unique abilities as well as his genius-level intelligence.

Spinnerets in his forearms enable him to fire organic spider-webbing from the top of his wrists, usable in a wide variety of ways. Like his predecessor, Spider-Man 2099 can travel at high speeds swinging on "weblines" when necessary, and he can use his webbing to ensnare enemies. Retractable talons in his fingertips and toes enable him to climb walls or cut enemies. Though they are rather short (approximately an inch long), they are extremely sharp, and seem strong enough to resist breakage despite his enhanced strength - Miguel has shown capable of rending metal armour on numerous occasions. These talons acted instinctively at first, and it took practice to retract them properly (making short work of his bedsheets while sleeping).

He possesses venom glands and slightly enlarged, pointed canines (which are not entirely dissimilar to a vampire), which allows him to paralyze his foes should he choose to bite them. While the exact makeup of his venom has never been discussed, it seems powerful enough to affect such foes as Thanatos - and it differs from real spider venom in that it does not seem to act as a digestive agent in addition to its paralytic properties.

Compensating for his lack of a "Spider-Sense", his hearing exceeds the acuity of a normal human, as does his vision - he can see extremely well over both long distances ("telescopic" vision) and in low-light conditions. In addition to the generally enhanced properties of his vision, the flicker-fusion rate of his retinas is reduced to such an extent that he can easily perceive fast-moving objects that would appear to others as a blur. A side effect of his visual enhancements are the color of his eyes - they are generally drawn as having red irises, making sunglasses a regular part of Miguel's wardrobe. When trying to perform "damage control" with his girlfriend early on in the original series, Miguel told Dana that as a result of breaking his genetically-coded Rapture addiction, his eyes were now more sensitive to light and that his jaw hurt (allowing him to more easily hide his red eyes and pointed teeth).

His web cape, which he obtained from a Thorite (Worshiper of Thor), is made from the Lyte Byte material commonly used in the manufacturing of hang-gliders, and acts as an air foil, allowing him to glide on air currents for a short period of time, as well as slow his rate of descent and control his direction in freefall. Coupled with his superhuman strength and agility, the Lite-Byte cloth allows him near-immunity to damage from falls - on numerous occasions, he has leapt from the top of tall buildings with no apparent ill effects upon landing.

just read it i got it from wikipedia

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#105  Edited By Eternal Chaos

I just read it. I'm not impressed. Venom is stronger than him, about as fast maybe a little slower, his symbiote is complex and he can do anything he wants. His webbing is organic as well, he has teeth can can slice right through flesh, and he's more versitile. 99 is dead, that's all there is to it.

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#106  Edited By The Mighty Thor

Eternal Chaos says:

"I just read it. I'm not impressed. Venom is stronger than him, about as fast maybe a little slower, his symbiote is complex and he can do anything he wants. His webbing is organic as well, he has teeth can can slice right through flesh, and he's more versitile. 99 is dead, that's all there is to it."

spidy has talons that can rip the symbiote to shreads and all he has to do make one rip in the symbiote and bites brock which should affect him like right away and while the symbiote trys to stop the poison thats where spiderman 2099 comes in and punches venom slice him up with his talons and bam there is venom are the ground beaten

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#107  Edited By Eternal Chaos

spiderman0409 says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"I just read it. I'm not impressed. Venom is stronger than him, about as fast maybe a little slower, his symbiote is complex and he can do anything he wants. His webbing is organic as well, he has teeth can can slice right through flesh, and he's more versitile. 99 is dead, that's all there is to it."
spidy has talons that can rip the symbiote to shreads and all he has to do make one rip in the symbiote and bites brock which should affect him like right away and while the symbiote trys to stop the poison thats where spiderman 2099 comes in and punches venom slice him up with his talons and bam there is venom are the ground beaten"

Who says 99 is going to even have time? Venom will try to web his hands, and jump at him, 99 jumps back Venom sends the symbiote on the ground and grabs his feet when he lands and breaks his legs.

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#108  Edited By The Mighty Thor

Eternal Chaos says:

"spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"I just read it. I'm not impressed. Venom is stronger than him, about as fast maybe a little slower, his symbiote is complex and he can do anything he wants. His webbing is organic as well, he has teeth can can slice right through flesh, and he's more versitile. 99 is dead, that's all there is to it."
spidy has talons that can rip the symbiote to shreads and all he has to do make one rip in the symbiote and bites brock which should affect him like right away and while the symbiote trys to stop the poison thats where spiderman 2099 comes in and punches venom slice him up with his talons and bam there is venom are the ground beaten"
Who says 99 is going to even have time? Venom will try to web his hands, and jump at him, 99 jumps back Venom sends the symbiote on the ground and grabs his feet when he lands and breaks his legs. "

well spidy could web him so much that venom can't move then when he finally comes out there comes 2099 slash the symbiote bites brock and does everything i just said

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#109  Edited By Eternal Chaos

spiderman0409 says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"I just read it. I'm not impressed. Venom is stronger than him, about as fast maybe a little slower, his symbiote is complex and he can do anything he wants. His webbing is organic as well, he has teeth can can slice right through flesh, and he's more versitile. 99 is dead, that's all there is to it."
spidy has talons that can rip the symbiote to shreads and all he has to do make one rip in the symbiote and bites brock which should affect him like right away and while the symbiote trys to stop the poison thats where spiderman 2099 comes in and punches venom slice him up with his talons and bam there is venom are the ground beaten"
Who says 99 is going to even have time? Venom will try to web his hands, and jump at him, 99 jumps back Venom sends the symbiote on the ground and grabs his feet when he lands and breaks his legs. "
well spidy could web him so much that venom can't move then when he finally comes out there comes 2099 slash the symbiote bites brock and does everything i just said"

You make it seem like Venom would just stand there. Venom would probably grab the webbing, and pull 99 into a punch.

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#110  Edited By The Mighty Thor

Eternal Chaos says:

"spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"I just read it. I'm not impressed. Venom is stronger than him, about as fast maybe a little slower, his symbiote is complex and he can do anything he wants. His webbing is organic as well, he has teeth can can slice right through flesh, and he's more versitile. 99 is dead, that's all there is to it."
spidy has talons that can rip the symbiote to shreads and all he has to do make one rip in the symbiote and bites brock which should affect him like right away and while the symbiote trys to stop the poison thats where spiderman 2099 comes in and punches venom slice him up with his talons and bam there is venom are the ground beaten"
Who says 99 is going to even have time? Venom will try to web his hands, and jump at him, 99 jumps back Venom sends the symbiote on the ground and grabs his feet when he lands and breaks his legs. "
well spidy could web him so much that venom can't move then when he finally comes out there comes 2099 slash the symbiote bites brock and does everything i just said"
You make it seem like Venom would just stand there. Venom would probably grab the webbing, and pull 99 into a punch."

venom grabs a bunch of webbing? remember the fight with morlun the first one where he use a bunch of webbing to cover him up woth webs

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#111  Edited By Eternal Chaos

He didn't web him. He webbed up the surrounding area which was kind of like webbing him up. But that was a desperate move. 99 wouldn't do that against Venom because he wouldn't think he needs to. He shoots out normal webs, Venom either dodges and grabs, or shoots his own webbing.

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#112  Edited By The Mighty Thor

Eternal Chaos says:

"He didn't web him. He webbed up the surrounding area which was kind of like webbing him up. But that was a desperate move. 99 wouldn't do that against Venom because he wouldn't think he needs to. He shoots out normal webs, Venom either dodges and grabs, or shoots his own webbing."

spidy dodge those webs to and if any webs hit him he will slice them up

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#113  Edited By Eternal Chaos

Not if he's not given time. Venom catches him, pulls him into him, keeps webbing him on the way, kills him. No more 99. Compare their abilities. Look at their showings, Venom is obviously superior.

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#114  Edited By The Mighty Thor

Eternal Chaos says:

"Not if he's not given time. Venom catches him, pulls him into him, keeps webbing him on the way, kills him. No more 99. Compare their abilities. Look at their showings, Venom is obviously superior."

thats what i'm saying what if he keeps webbing venom and goes do all that stuff i've been saying

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#115  Edited By Eternal Chaos

spiderman0409 says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"Not if he's not given time. Venom catches him, pulls him into him, keeps webbing him on the way, kills him. No more 99. Compare their abilities. Look at their showings, Venom is obviously superior."
thats what i'm saying what if he keeps webbing venom and goes do all that stuff i've been saying"

Who says he's going to be able to?

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#116  Edited By The Mighty Thor

Eternal Chaos says:

"spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"Not if he's not given time. Venom catches him, pulls him into him, keeps webbing him on the way, kills him. No more 99. Compare their abilities. Look at their showings, Venom is obviously superior."
thats what i'm saying what if he keeps webbing venom and goes do all that stuff i've been saying"
Who says he's going to be able to?"

well then who says venom will be able to

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#117  Edited By Eternal Chaos

spiderman0409 says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"Not if he's not given time. Venom catches him, pulls him into him, keeps webbing him on the way, kills him. No more 99. Compare their abilities. Look at their showings, Venom is obviously superior."
thats what i'm saying what if he keeps webbing venom and goes do all that stuff i've been saying"
Who says he's going to be able to?"
well then who says venom will be able to"

His fighting stats. Ok, here's a tale for you. Venom charges into 99, 99 jumps and tries to slash him but Venom either slaps him or grabs him with his symbiote and slams him down. 99 jumps up from the damage, but Venom is invisible, not moving. 99 tries to listen but doesn't hear the silence of the suit creeping along the floor. Suit grabs him he's dead. no more 99

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#118  Edited By The Mighty Thor

Eternal Chaos says:

"I just read it. I'm not impressed. Venom is stronger than him, about as fast maybe a little slower, his symbiote is complex and he can do anything he wants. His webbing is organic as well, he has teeth can can slice right through flesh, and he's more versitile. 99 is dead, that's all there is to it."

you said he is a little slower then 2099 which he can use easily to dodge and find the right moment to attack and you keep saying venom will use the symbiote he doesn't use it alot though

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#119  Edited By Eternal Chaos

spiderman0409 says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"I just read it. I'm not impressed. Venom is stronger than him, about as fast maybe a little slower, his symbiote is complex and he can do anything he wants. His webbing is organic as well, he has teeth can can slice right through flesh, and he's more versitile. 99 is dead, that's all there is to it."
you said he is a little slower then 2099 which he can use easily to dodge and find the right moment to attack and you keep saying venom will use the symbiote he doesn't use it alot though"

I said maybe it's possible he's faster. I personally feel he's faster and you know he always uses the symbiote, not on a massive scale like Carnage and Toxin, but you know he uses it often.

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#120  Edited By The Mighty Thor

Eternal Chaos says:

"spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"I just read it. I'm not impressed. Venom is stronger than him, about as fast maybe a little slower, his symbiote is complex and he can do anything he wants. His webbing is organic as well, he has teeth can can slice right through flesh, and he's more versitile. 99 is dead, that's all there is to it."
you said he is a little slower then 2099 which he can use easily to dodge and find the right moment to attack and you keep saying venom will use the symbiote he doesn't use it alot though"
I said *maybe* it's possible he's faster. I personally feel he's faster and you know he always uses the symbiote, not on a massive scale like Carnage and Toxin, but you know he uses it often."

i know but what i mean is venom is mostly up close with fists

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#121  Edited By Eternal Chaos

Yes but even at that he uses it. He uses it to bring people in, or to do damage. Maximum Carnage shows that as do most of his crossovers.

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#122  Edited By The Mighty Thor

Eternal Chaos says:

"Yes but even at that he uses it. He uses it to bring people in, or to do damage. Maximum Carnage shows that as do most of his crossovers."

Maximum Carnage shows what and seeing how we are talking about venom did you see what he look like in the spidermsn unlimited tv series

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#123  Edited By Eternal Chaos

spiderman0409 says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"Yes but even at that he uses it. He uses it to bring people in, or to do damage. Maximum Carnage shows that as do most of his crossovers."
Maximum Carnage shows what and seeing how we are talking about venom did you see what he look like in the spidermsn unlimited tv series"

Shows his use of the symbiote briefly, and yes I did see it, I hated it. He looked like a test tube baby.

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#124  Edited By The Mighty Thor

Eternal Chaos says:

"spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"Yes but even at that he uses it. He uses it to bring people in, or to do damage. Maximum Carnage shows that as do most of his crossovers."
Maximum Carnage shows what and seeing how we are talking about venom did you see what he look like in the spidermsn unlimited tv series"
Shows his use of the symbiote briefly, and yes I did see it, I hated it. He looked like a test tube baby."

i know i was like what the hell

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#125  Edited By Eternal Chaos

spiderman0409 says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"Yes but even at that he uses it. He uses it to bring people in, or to do damage. Maximum Carnage shows that as do most of his crossovers."
Maximum Carnage shows what and seeing how we are talking about venom did you see what he look like in the spidermsn unlimited tv series"
Shows his use of the symbiote briefly, and yes I did see it, I hated it. He looked like a test tube baby."
i know i was like what the hell"

I was really pissed off. I'm like "WTF are you doing to this guy! Carnage looks like a girafe missing like 10 chromozones, and Venom looks like muscular turd."

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#126  Edited By The Mighty Thor

Eternal Chaos says:

"spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"Yes but even at that he uses it. He uses it to bring people in, or to do damage. Maximum Carnage shows that as do most of his crossovers."
Maximum Carnage shows what and seeing how we are talking about venom did you see what he look like in the spidermsn unlimited tv series"
Shows his use of the symbiote briefly, and yes I did see it, I hated it. He looked like a test tube baby."
i know i was like what the hell"
I was really pissed off. I'm like "WTF are you doing to this guy! Carnage looks like a girafe missing like 10 chromozones, and Venom looks like muscular turd.""

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you called carnage a giraffe and venom a turd but i did like spiderman new costume i thought it was cool

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#127  Edited By chris thompson

BUMP

 

VENOM WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#128  Edited By chris thompson

BUMP

 

VENOM WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#129  Edited By Matezoide2

already happened,Spider-Man 2099 was winning until Venom ran away from the other heroes

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#130  Edited By chris thompson
@Matezoide said:
"already happened,Spider-Man 2099 was winning until Venom ran away from the other heroes "


PIS
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#131  Edited By Thor's hammmer

venom i doubt spider man 2099 could seriously hurt him
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And the winner is.....

 
 


 
 
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#133  Edited By texasdeathmatch

I figure in 99 years this Spiderman's gotta be somewhat superior to his present time counter part.

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#134  Edited By FrankenBlade

Happened in a comic 
2099 won.

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#135  Edited By karrob

Venom

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#136  Edited By CRTrobinson

gotta go with Venom on this one

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#137  Edited By Maniac2312

I actually just re-read the issue and even though S-M 2099 got that one good hit with his claws and surprised Venom, I think Venom was beating Miguel until he saw the "heroes" coming.  Of course this is not to say that Miguel would not have come back and beat on Venom again.

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#138  Edited By FrankenBlade
@Maniac2312: 
Yeah, I probably have to reread it too, I remember them being even then Venom ran away.
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#139  Edited By VenomousDragon

Brock would beat his @$$

Hes stronger,more durable,more versatile,probably faster and more experienced. Brock also has some half decent agility feats too.

Plus O'Hara's claws hurting Brock is PIS, logan's claws did barley anything and bullets dont even phase him, some people think he was knocked over by them but the only time i saw that Brock was playing a joke on the cops.