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Spider-Man vs Solid Snake
@eredin12: Do you really think Snake beats Spider-Man?
@eredin12 said:
@moistchoice: The comment above is pretty ignorant, here are some feats though, so see for yourself. Speed-wise he was able to dodge Mach 20 rail gun while suffering a seizure attack as an old man:
Also as Old Man had entire with Revolver Ocelot in 0,3 second, which was 14 seconds in their perception, in which they walked towards each other, traded blows, rested, wrestled, and then finished, all before cigar hit the floor from 1,5 meters( 0,3 second in real time)
Also able to ride Mach 2 missiles heading his way Dante style and move much faster than bullet which was cm away from his foot
Speed-Wise Spidey has like a million bullet dodging feats and his spider-sense should allow him to effectively dodge any of Snake's attacks.
@eredin12 said:
Strength wise he was able to hit hard enough to create visible shockwaves, which would make him pretty comparable with Peter striking wise
As well ass shake 500-ton metal gear by shockwave he and Luqid made by punching each other in the face
Not at all.
@eredin12 said:
But really his best attribute is his skill, he beat Grey Fox, Cyborg Ninja-like Raiden but older, who was still able to effortlessly stop stomp from 500-ton Metal Gear with one hand and is hypersonic speed wse
What makes this guy skilled? Spidey himself was instructed by Shang Chi and developed his own fighting style known as the way of the spider, which allowed him to fight Julia Carpenter who has spider powers and can see into the future without even having spider sense himself at the time.
@eredin12 said:
Better than Daredevil who is much slower than crossbow tagging Spidey and Cap :
Ah yes, as if out of all the decades of Marvel comic history there haven't been any inconsistencies whatsoever. This is faulty, but anyway.
Snake is not beating Spider-Man. Especially when characters below Spidey can give Snake a run for his money.
@eredin12 said:
Speed-Wise Spidey has like a million bullet dodging feats and his spider-sense should allow him to effectively dodge any of Snake's attacks.
Snake has speed feats above bullet timing level, such as dodging Mach 20 rail guns, beating actual speedsters. Lets start with Null for instance, he is this fast:
Yet Gene causally side steps Null's Bull's attack, then counter-attacks with a blade in every limb, followed by a pal strike. All before Null could react.
And Boss beat him, sure Spidey has spidey senses but Fox had precog as well yet Sanke still beat him, he has experience in dealing with precog
Spidey has also beaten speedsters (Such as quicksilver and Blur) and has far better feats above bullet dodging as well such as
I also want to ask, Is Null one of the speedsters you're referring to? Because those speed feats aren't really that impressive imo. Especially compared to the feats above and I wouldn't call it speedster level at all. Also what's Fox's precog and does it match up to spider-sense?
@eredin12 said:
Show Snake performing strength feats at this magnitude. Shockwaves won't be enough.
All of that is small building level stuff though, making shockwaves like that is just as good but in case you want more, Boss
I'm pretty sure the tank and building drop feats should be at least building level or a bit higher, these are also some low ends compared to Spidey's stronger showings. And what makes those shockwaves impressive?
@eredin12 said:
What was the building level explosion might I ask? Also sorry if this sounds newbie but what's the scaling for all of this? Has Snake defeated all these guys that you're mentioning?
@eredin12 said:
What makes this guy skilled? Spidey himself was instructed by Shang Chi and developed his own fighting style known as the way of the spider, which allowed him to fight Julia Carpenter who has spider powers and can see into the future without even having spider sense himself at the time.
Snake beat Boss who made CQC best martial arts ever in MGS, he used his skill to beat 500 tonner, hypersonic speedster with precog such as Fox etc
I think Spidey's skill is better imo. I personally believe training with Shang Chi, a guy who's an expert in every martial art and said to be the greatest martial artist on the planet is more impressive. Shang Chi's training was also on top of the fighting experience Spidey had of fighting similar skilled fighters before.
@eredin12 said:
Ah yes, as if out of all the decades of Marvel comic history there haven't been any inconsistencies whatsoever. This is faulty, but anyway.
Snake is not beating Spider-Man. Especially when characters below Spidey can give Snake a run for his money.
My opponent used low ends so I did the same, I know Sidey is faster than Daredevil
Why not? Who are those characters? Tbh i think this can go either way, but so far i am yet to see valid argument for why Snake canont beat him
Fair on the Daredevil part. I believe someone like Batman can take Snake but I don't wanna argue for Batman when the thread is about Snake Vs Spider-Man. It's nice to know you think it can go either way but I personally just don't see Snake taking this since Spidey should have better physicals, a spider-sense that helps him dodge Snake's attacks, and he should also have better speed. I forgot to even mention his webbing that multiple strong characters have struggled to get out of.
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