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Poll Speed of Kakashi? (142 votes)

Hypersonic: Mach 5-10 6%
Hypersonic: Mach 10-30 3%
Hypersonic: Mach 30-50 8%
Hypersonic: Mach 50-100 5%
MHS: Mach 100-150 13%
Speed of lightning: Mach 300 11%
Faster than lightning 42%
Relativistic 12%

Combat speed only, not reaction, travel or movement speed

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War Arc Kakashi no DMS

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Oops, wrong forum. Oh well.

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fast but not too fast

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fast but not too fast

I agree, Kakashi is quick but he isn't fast.

Eddie Hall is strong but he isn't powerful.

Thanos is durable but he isn't tough.

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Thanos is durable but he isn't tough.

What do you mean by this?

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@marc_55 said:
@socajunkie said:

Thanos is durable but he isn't tough.

What do you mean by this?

Nothing, every statement there was a joke, young Marcus.

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#8  Edited By universeichigo1

Should be about 120-300 times faster than the speed of sound

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Itachi didn't have lightning movement, only reactions and he could blitz Kakashi with a clone. Mach 30-50 seems reasonable but it's just an assuption, could be lower. With Chidori his speed would be higher tho.

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Difficult to quantify.

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#11  Edited By Marc_55

@socajunkie said:
@marc_55 said:
@socajunkie said:

Thanos is durable but he isn't tough.

What do you mean by this?

Nothing, every statement there was a joke, young Marcus.

That's what I thought, since it made no sense otherwise. Then again, this is CV. Never know what you're dealing with.

@gaoron said:

he could blitz Kakashi with a clone.

That's something that absolutely never happened.

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@marc_55 said:
@socajunkie said:
@marc_55 said:
@socajunkie said:

Thanos is durable but he isn't tough.

What do you mean by this?

Nothing, every statement there was a joke, young Marcus.

That's what I thought, since it made no sense otherwise. Then again, this is CV. Never know what you're dealing with.

You know me, you know how ridiculously intelligent I am. And hot, and strong and perfect in every way.

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Hypersonic, though I'm not sure to what degree.

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#14  Edited By higherpower  Moderator

*hits drink*

Kakashi blitzed Kaguya to an almost embarrassing degree and she danced around Naruto and Sasuke whilst not even exhibiting a mere fraction of her full power. This being the same Naruto and Sasuke who dodged point blank light speed attacks and blitzed Madara who could react to light speed if not FTL kicks from Might Guy, proof lying in the fact that Night Moth could bend space with speed which is irrefutably LS and it's asinine to imply otherwise.

Kakashi is FTL. CaV me and I'll save you the embarrassment of destroying you in this thread.

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*hits drink*

Kakashi blitzed Kaguya to an almost embarrassing degree and she danced around Naruto and Sasuke whilst not even exhibiting a mere fraction of her full power. This being the same Naruto and Sasuke who dodged point blank light speed attacks and blitzed Madara who could react to light speed if not FTL kicks from Might Guy, proof lying in the fact that Night Moth could bend space with speed which is irrefutably LS and it's asinine to imply otherwise.

Kakashi is FTL. CaV me and I'll save you the embarrassment of destroying you in this thread.

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About as fast as me. So HS+.

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It's times like this when I wish Cosmic_Lantern wasn't banned. Just to see the comedy.

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#18  Edited By Gaoron

@marc_55: Pretty sure Kakashi didn't see that clone moving behind him judging by his reaction but no matter what happened there, Kakashi says Itachi is still FTE to him.

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@marc_55 said:
@socajunkie said:
@marc_55 said:
@socajunkie said:

Thanos is durable but he isn't tough.

What do you mean by this?

Nothing, every statement there was a joke, young Marcus.

That's what I thought, since it made no sense otherwise. Then again, this is CV. Never know what you're dealing with.

You know me, you know how ridiculously intelligent I am. And hot, and strong and perfect in every way.

Yup, one of those is definitely true.

Ah, the good ol days of Trips being destroyed by CM Punk. How I miss them so.

*hits drink*

Kakashi blitzed Kaguya to an almost embarrassing degree and she danced around Naruto and Sasuke whilst not even exhibiting a mere fraction of her full power. This being the same Naruto and Sasuke who dodged point blank light speed attacks and blitzed Madara who could react to light speed if not FTL kicks from Might Guy, proof lying in the fact that Night Moth could bend space with speed which is irrefutably LS and it's asinine to imply otherwise.

Kakashi is FTL. CaV me and I'll save you the embarrassment of destroying you in this thread.

I feel like CL might randomly return just for this comment.

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@socajunkie said:

Oops, wrong forum. Oh well.

Edit it. :)

@socajunkie said:

It's times like this when I wish Cosmic_Lantern wasn't banned. Just to see the comedy.

What happened to him?

@god_vulcan said:

*hits drink*

Kakashi blitzed Kaguya to an almost embarrassing degree and she danced around Naruto and Sasuke whilst not even exhibiting a mere fraction of her full power. This being the same Naruto and Sasuke who dodged point blank light speed attacks and blitzed Madara who could react to light speed if not FTL kicks from Might Guy, proof lying in the fact that Night Moth could bend space with speed which is irrefutably LS and it's asinine to imply otherwise.

Kakashi is FTL. CaV me and I'll save you the embarrassment of destroying you in this thread.

Vodka?

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#21  Edited By Marc_55

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@marc_55: Pretty sure Kakashi didn't see that clone moving behind him judging by his reaction

The reaction of his clone, while the real Kakashi protected Kurenai from the actual clone of Itachi's? That was a clone feint, on both their parts.

but no matter what happened there, Kakashi says Itachi is still FTE to him.

He says his casting speed is too fast, while also keeping track of him and reacting to every single thing done in that encounter. That aside, when was he ever blitzed? I haven't seen it.

There's also the issue of this part 1 showing being much outdated, but I'll just wait for the blitz to appear.

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#22  Edited By socajunkie  Moderator  Online

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What happened to him?

He got banned for insulting someone, I think he called them feminine or something.

He was also insane and thought Kakashi could beat Zoro and Sanji at the same time and either Naruto or Sasuke could take Post-Crisis Superman.

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@gear4god said:

What happened to him?

He got banned for insulting someone, I think he called them feminine

Which is weird, since he seemed like the type to subvert those sort of stereotypes and shit. Yet he often used feminine as an insult, and I find that dumb.

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@gear4god said:

@socajunkie: Can DMS Kakashi beat Zoro and Sanji?

Yes, they have no legit way to tag him, lack the pure stats to keep up and have no defences for Kamui and shit. But that's not the version he meant, he meant War Arc Kakashi (no DMS).

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@socajunkie: Can DMS Kakashi beat Zoro and Sanji?

Yes but he was arguing for normal Kakashi.

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I kinda suspect there isn't as significant a speed gap between characters in Naruto as people seem to believe. Just an inkling I have at the back of my mind. Ever since Part 2 speed hasn't been that important, it's just a fetish Viners have.

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#28  Edited By socajunkie  Moderator  Online

Kakashi takes Sanji for a majority but that fight isn't a walk in the park and I personally feel Kakashi would lose to Zoro because of the raw power gap and Kakashi's lack of a good defense for Zoro's AoE, that's derailing this thread though so I'll leave it there.

To say he beats both at the same time is pure wank especially given their perfect synergy.

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@alphaq said:

I kinda suspect there isn't as significant a speed gap between characters in Naruto as people seem to believe. Just an inkling I have at the back of my mind. Ever since Part 2 speed hasn't been that important, it's just a fetish Viners have.

The same can be said for a lot of series and fictions. Trust me, it's not just the viners.

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@socajunkie: You don't really have to entertain said arguments anyway. Take me for example, I flat out ignore anyone I feel isn't worth my time. Like IUMC, who seems to think making BS claims (most of which I countered years ago) is a lifestyle.

No one would legitimately argue Kakashi can beat 2 people easily comparable to him by their lonesome. It just wouldn't make sense, unless arguing from a pure diversionary standpoint with underground sneaking and clones and more.

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@socajunkie: You don't really have to entertain said arguments anyway. Take me for example, I flat out ignore anyone I feel isn't worth my time. Like IUMC, who seems to think making BS claims (most of which I countered years ago) is a lifestyle.

No one would legitimately argue Kakashi can beat 2 people easily comparable to him by their lonesome. It just wouldn't make sense, unless arguing from a pure diversionary standpoint with underground sneaking and clones and more.

I love how you low-key mentioned an argument for Kakashi at the end there.

But yes I agree, though sneaky shit wouldn't work on people with CoO.

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#32  Edited By JOVIOLMA

How I get in there ?

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@marc_55 said:
@alphaq said:

I kinda suspect there isn't as significant a speed gap between characters in Naruto as people seem to believe. Just an inkling I have at the back of my mind. Ever since Part 2 speed hasn't been that important, it's just a fetish Viners have.

The same can be said for a lot of series and fictions. Trust me, it's not just the viners.

8 Gates Guy vs. Tenten. Pretty sure there's a speed difference...

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@marc_55 said:

@socajunkie: You don't really have to entertain said arguments anyway. Take me for example, I flat out ignore anyone I feel isn't worth my time. Like IUMC, who seems to think making BS claims (most of which I countered years ago) is a lifestyle.

No one would legitimately argue Kakashi can beat 2 people easily comparable to him by their lonesome. It just wouldn't make sense, unless arguing from a pure diversionary standpoint with underground sneaking and clones and more.

I love how you low-key mentioned an argument for Kakashi at the end there.

Eh, you know me. Although I wouldn't argue it personally, I just see how one could.

But yes I agree, though sneaky shit wouldn't work on people with CoO.

I actually considered that, but no Shonen precog is ever really as infallible as it seems. Naruto is a pretty good example of that, these recent OP chapters have been good examples of that too. Again, I'm not arguing anything really. Just spit balling with my idiots friends.

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@marc_55 said:
@alphaq said:

I kinda suspect there isn't as significant a speed gap between characters in Naruto as people seem to believe. Just an inkling I have at the back of my mind. Ever since Part 2 speed hasn't been that important, it's just a fetish Viners have.

The same can be said for a lot of series and fictions. Trust me, it's not just the viners.

8 Gates Guy vs. Tenten. Pretty sure there's a speed difference...

You got the point, no need for exaggerating. Especially since I (being the best of the best of the best) could destroy said arguments.

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@marc_55: So clone of Itachi blitzed clone of Kakashi?

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@marc_55 said:

I actually considered that, but no Shonen precog is ever really as infallible as it seems. Naruto is a pretty good example of that, these recent OP chapters have been good examples of that too. Again, I'm not arguing anything really. Just spit balling with my idiots friends.

While CoO isn't infallible, it is 360 degree awareness and we have two users of it. And I don't know if I'd use recent OP as an example since Luffy's CoO is catching up to Katakuri's.

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@marc_55 said:

I actually considered that, but no Shonen precog is ever really as infallible as it seems. Naruto is a pretty good example of that, these recent OP chapters have been good examples of that too. Again, I'm not arguing anything really. Just spit balling with my idiots friends.

While CoO isn't infallible, it is 360 degree awareness and we have two users of it. And I don't know if I'd use recent OP as an example since Luffy's CoO is catching up to Katakuri's.

What does CoO stand for?

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@gear4god said:

What does CoO stand for?

Colour of observation.

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@socajunkie: Wait, I forgot! You can't edit polls! Maybe ask a mod for help to move it to Gen. discussions.

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@socajunkie: Wait, I forgot! You can't edit polls! Maybe ask a mod for help to move it to Gen. discussions.

Might get more traction here lol and they'll move it when they see it.

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@gaoron said:

@marc_55: So clone of Itachi blitzed clone of Kakashi?

No. No one was blitzed there, so I'm missing why you keep saying so. More to the point, how would that be relevant to Kakashi at his natural strongest? He not only kept pace with Itachi there, he also does so against the 30% chakra clone in early Part 2, then proceeds to progress in battle until being acknowledged for his skills and killed by Pain.

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@marc_55: Kakashi is clearly blitzed when Itachi appears behind him.

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@gaoron: That's not a blitz, it's more like a sneak attack.

and Kakashi is massively stronger than that now.

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#46  Edited By Marc_55

@gaoron said:

@marc_55: Kakashi is clearly blitzed when Itachi appears behind him.

What? Ignoring that Kakashi completely anticipated that move, considering that's actually a clone in his place, it wasn't a blitz anyway.

Directly prior to this, Kakashi used a water wall to defend himself, which conveniently let him completely concealed from view. That's when Itachi made the clone and put him in place, Kakashi literally says as much.

Stop, it's wrong and irrelevant.

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@marc_55 said:
@socajunkie said:
@gear4god said:

What happened to him?

He got banned for insulting someone, I think he called them feminine

Which is weird, since he seemed like the type to subvert those sort of stereotypes and shit. Yet he often used feminine as an insult, and I find that dumb.

He was an idiot. Wouldn't of put anything past him.

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@marc_55 said:
@socajunkie said:
@gear4god said:

What happened to him?

He got banned for insulting someone, I think he called them feminine

Which is weird, since he seemed like the type to subvert those sort of stereotypes and shit. Yet he often used feminine as an insult, and I find that dumb.

He was an idiot. Wouldn't of put anything past him.

That's not saying much, there are a lot of idiots on those site. That doesn't really mean they'll be idiotic in all manners possible. But fair enough, I suppose.

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@marc_55: Yeah I get you mate.

He was obviously intelligent, he just acted like a massive tool.

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@marc_55: Yeah I get you mate.

He was obviously intelligent, he just acted like a massive tool.

That more than likely wasn't acting. Although he certainly made things entertaining, I'll admit that much.