Speed of End of Part 1 Sasuke?

He should be around Hypersonic in combat speed.

His feat of “dodging” Zaku’s sound is pretty overhyped, considering that’s literally not even what happened. He didn’t actually react to it, it’s shown on panel that he was nowhere to be found as it was traveling, he only appeared next to Zaku when it was finished. Gaara’s sand (that Sasuke outpaced), which supposedly could time Yashamaru’s explosion, was not only incredibly iffy as it could’ve easily been aim blocked but also, the same sand was greatly struggling to keep up with unweighted Lee who was supersonic at best. Seeing as how even weighted Lee was faster than Sasuke by a large margin, which is not only showcased but also stated by the latter himself, you’d be hard pressed to say he’s even supersonic.

@frostplatinum: Sasuke moved Sakura and Naruto out of the way though before the attack could hit them, which means that he would have to go back, grab them, move them to the side and then appear behind Zaku. Even if you argue Sasuke did it before Zaku's attack went off it's still impressive because he still did all that without Zaku noticing. Just mentioning it because that's the truly impressive part of the feat.

@frostplatinum: unweighted Lee is only hypersonic? Lol even weighted Lee is easily supersonic, where do you get this?

Hypersonic: mach 30-60

Edit: why would you put lightning speed for kid sasuke?0.o

High Hypersonic+

@djoss: From what’s shown plain as day in the anime/manga, lmao where else would I get it? Lee is constantly shown with the Mach cones around him after he opens the 5th gate. Unweighted Lee has no such speed feats.

@frostplatinum: Mach cones? You understand that that mean nothing right? It's just an animation style, even fodder Shinobi do that, by that logic even Orochimaru is only sound speed because he never did that.

@djoss: There is a clear difference between just a streak to indicate movement, which is an animation style, and Mach cones, which literally can only be produced by someone moving faster than sound. These are shown not only in the anime, but the manga, too. Granted, mangaka/authors don't do this often despite their characters having other feats to support them being faster than sound, but them actually being on panel is about as concrete as feats will go to indicate supersonic movements.

Hypersonic+ I mean Gaara's sand couldn't keep up with Sasuke and it reacted to explosions.(This isn't even taken into account that Sasuke has CS) Also Unweighted Lee>= Sasuke in speed.

Well, Haku is technically lightspeed when using ice mirrors. Even with all lowballing, he’s lightning timer with Chidori

@frostplatinum: No, stop! You are literally saying that Shippuden Sakura isn't even supersonic since Sasori sand did the same https://howstrongis.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:HowStrongIs/Speed_of_the_Iron_Sand_Drizzle_%28Naruto%29

Sorry currently on mobile

@djoss: Am I missing something? Why would she be supersonic by that point?

@frostplatinum: Last reply.

Because part 1 chars like Temari already react to sound at close range and she would logically blitz part 1 Temari or the fact that Kakashi used sharingan to fight her plus Naruto.

@djoss: I suppose this will be my last reply also then.

You mean against Tayuya? Both her and Shikamaru acknowledged that it was going to come, and she begun to swing before it started moving. Even if she were to have reacted to the sound, that would easily put her speed way above Sakura’s until later on. Sakura was normally shown as a pushover, there’s nothing she did to support her outscaling Temari at that time. As for Kakashi using his sharingan on her... not only did he not have any supersonic feats by this point, but also, what is that supposed to say for Sakura? Neither her or Naruto could tag him once.

Kishimoto would probably say close to the speed of sound or exceeding it. Fan wank calcs put him as able to outrun a sniper bullet from 5 vlocks away. Lol

Low hypersonic with curse seal, supersonic without it.

Hypersonic

@frostplatinum: “His feat of “dodging” Zaku’s sound is pretty overhyped, considering that’s literally not even what happened.”

Except the manga literally shows us that exact thing happening.

“He didn’t actually react to it, it’s shown on panel that he was nowhere to be found as it was traveling, he only appeared next to Zaku when it was finished.”

> Sasuke moves Naruto and Sakura out of the way of the blast before it can hit them

> “he didn’t react to it”

Yeah that makes sense. He was “nowhere to be found” because he moved Naruto and Sakura. Kishimoto doesn’t need to draw each and every step Sasuke took in saving them for us to know that he did. Unless you honk Zaku let Sasuke grab and move Sakura and Naruto and decided to fire at the location where they had last been but weren’t there anymore just cause?

“Gaara’s sand (that Sasuke outpaced), which supposedly could time Yashamaru’s explosion”

Have you actually read the manga? There’s no “supposedly” about it. It clear as day is not there right as the explosion goes off, and is over Gaara and protecting him afterwards.

“was not only incredibly iffy as it could’ve easily been aim blocked”

The sand auto protects him and only does so to prevent something from harming him. There isn’t one single instance in the manga that suggests the sand “aim blocks” attacks and every other example goes against that line of thinking.

“the same sand was greatly struggling to keep up with unweighted Lee who was supersonic at best.”

So not only do you think supersonic is only one speed apparently, but you also think Rock Lee is “supersonic at best”. Fabulous.

“Seeing as how even weighted Lee was faster than Sasuke by a large margin”

I guess Sasuke getting the Curse Mark after his fight with Lee has nothing to do with the speed difference between the two (Lee fight Sasuke and the Sasuke that dodged Zaku’s blast) and the stat changes the Curse Mark gives someone. Amazing.

“you’d be hard pressed to say he’s even supersonic.”

Nobody is hard pressed to say that. Well can’t say nobody since you clearly are, but you also made claims that either directly contradict the manga or aren’t supported by it.

High Hypersonic

Didn't kishimoto said in an interview that, at this point of the manga, that bullets were too fast for the narutoverse?

Q: One thing I love about Naruto is how it's hard to tell when it takes place. People wear slippers, but then there are zippers on their clothes and they have telephone poles. What are thing we'll never see in Naruto - Computers, guns, planes?

A: I haven't really made up those specific rules, so there may be airplanes and some other vehicles, but absolutely no guns. Bullets fly at supersonic speeds, so there's no way that your shuriken could compete. As for computers, maybe, but they'd be low-processing computers.

Q: Eight-bit

A: Yeah, maybe Eight-bit, definately not Sixteen-bit.

[Note: At the bottom of the page, there is a small picture of Sasuke saying "Eight-bit... sounds like it's "Asteroids" for me."]

relativistic

Easily Hypersonic (Mach 30 - 50) or even MHS.

He could easily react to KN0 Naruto in base form, who could burn wooden logs just by running past them without touching them.

Not to mention, in his base form without the sharingan he was equal to non-weights Lee who could blitz/outrun explosion timing sand and then he got a second upgrade which increased his base form even further. Then stack on 2 tomoe and 3 tomoe sharingan reaction with the CS1 and CS2 upgrades. He was ridiculous.

Part 1 Naruto was equal to him as well. Maybe even superior.

Should be high Hypersonic.

Been a while since I read early Naruto but based on Gaara solidly hypersonic.

High hypersonic with Chidori boost hes a lightning timer

Kid Kyuubi Naruto blitzing Sasuke at FTE speed underwater, then Sharingan 3 Tomoe Sasuke w/o mark was dodging same Naruto has got to scale to Hypersonic.

His base and curse mark 1 form are probably around the mach 5-10 range, but in his final curse mark form he might be closer the the mach 30 option.

And how come your options skip numbers? It goes from 5-10 to 30-50, which leaves out 10-30.

@AlexTheBoss: no... post taijutsu training sasuke, outstripped explosions in a booby which was essentially a minefield, without being tagged by any bombs. that puts sasuke (base) at mac 10 at the least. the curse seal boosts him further exponentially.

i would say his final form curse seal is easily above fifty.

lol he said booby

High hypersonic ( + ).

Hypersonic.

@zuriel-el: Speed of detonation seems to be around mach 5-9 from what I just looked up, so Base Sasuke could be anywhere still be below mach 10 depending on the explosion. I could see base Sasuke at around mach 10, curse mark level one Sasuke being around mach 20, and curse mark level 2 Sasuke around 30. Maybe he could be upwards of 50, but I'm not sure if there is enough evidence to support that, especially when just reacting to lightning which is a bit less than mach 300 is extremely impressive for jonin, which means they are multiple times less than that, so under mach 100.

Relativistic based on his BGTH feat

@AlexTheBoss: ther wasn't just one bomb, he was trapped in a mine field and came out unscathed and how is reacting to lightning impressive to jonin, when the only person this was ever going to tag was a blind, injured and half dead jonin, and yet it failed to tag him.