Spectrum vs Lightray

Spectrum

Vs Lightray

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In Character

Post Crisis Onward Lightray

Current Spectrum

toss up

Light ray

Unless Monica can absorb every single attack thrown at her, Lightray should stomp.

Light Ray

Light Ray.

@ouroborik: seems like lightray is a perfect counter for monica

She probably can't absorb/drain Lightray but she can phase through most forms of energy.

Lightray can use physical attacks on her. If he bullrushes her at super-speed she is done for.

Nice battle though, if only we got more stuff like this and less MCU/HST.

@ouroborik:

Lightray can use physical attacks on her. If he bullrushes her at super-speed she is done for.

Physical attacks have no effects on Monica in Lightform, she can switch forms and move in general at the speed of light similar to Lightray.

Nice battle though, if only we got more stuff like this and less MCU/HST.

Thanks, wish we could get more of these too.

@ouroborik: Does lightray process any other powers that can counter monica ?

His powers are superhuman stats and light manipulation/attacks. Not much else.

Lightray.

Monica is so overrated.

@cosmoman: How has she been beat before?

bump

Spectrum hurt Zeus

Can LR do the same?

@knutcracker:

Insane lightray was going toe to toe with Talion. I'd give it to Lightray, but only because of the mother Box.

@knutcracker:

Insane lightray was going toe to toe with Talion. I'd give it to Lightray, but only because of the mother Box.

@needlebay: Who's Talion

I keep searching him up, but the only things popping up is Talion from Middle-Earth and Talon from Court of Owls

@knutcracker: He meant Takion

should be 50/50

Can't mother boxes manipulate energy?

Doesn't that give LT the automatic win?

Light Ray

Lightray could literally drag down the multiverse with him as he falls, just like Darkseid. Can Spectrum do anything against that?

Lightray

IDK much about lightray. What's his powerset. If it's a Superman Dr Light then Spectrum should stomp.

Monica slaps..she has shown better versatility such as illusions ,i mean this was powerful enough to fool beings Nyx , and she can regenerate from being distingrated by a beyonder. that's just scratching the surface on how versatile she is. Light Ray might have more raw power but spectrum has better energy manipulation, absorption such as absorbing iso 8 which is cosmic cube on steroids, invisibility, duplication, shrinking. Etc

@superprimetime: lol, is this a joke?

Monica is the goddess of energy.

Monica's entire move set is not light based. What is this? She can become light just as she can become any energy she wishes.

Lightray would absorb/redirect/reflect? Monica would do that to him instead. Lightray is the one whose entire move set is light basd. He can also turn into light? Okay, that's cute. Monica clones can also do that.

Now let's debunk this.

Monica is not just capable of sensing energy. She has cosmic awareness, cosmic senses and soul sense. She can track anyone, anywhere. Even across Dimensions.

2. LIGHTRAY controling Monica shows you know Absolutely nothing about her. She would do the exact thing to him easily. She is a far better energy Manipulator than he is. Her light control is absurd.

3. Monica's entire attacks are light based?

She can speed steal, she can blow up brains and control people brains, she can control souls. Infact she could just end this match easily by taking lightrays soul.

She has size Manipulation, soul Manipulation, energy Manipulation even matter Manipulation to the molecular level. Her fire power alone is enough to temporarily brighten the entire Darkforce Dimension.

And About Speed. Monica is undeniably the fastest Avenger. She has feats of reacting in an INSTANT. A newbie Monica once took a running start, flew around the world, tagged Different satellites in what the Writer described as NO MORE THAN A NANOSECOND and Flew back to the Avengers tower before Thor or the other Avengers could take a single breath. Oh and she can also teleport, spread her conciousness and create hundreds of clones.

How about we CaV this?

@tedirey: wow. I just read that respect thread and I can't imagine the immense disrespect given to Monica if you think Lightray stomps. Most of those things are literally failing to do anything about Talkion. His best durability feat is Hitting a forcefield at light speed? 🤦🤦🤦

Monica one shot a Null fields that was going to Destroy the 616 Universe. She absorbed and close a Black hole that was going to Destroy 2 Universes including 616. Her firepower alone is enough to make an ENTIRE UNIVERSE of Darkness bright as a star for a brief period. Oh and She has been called one of the most powerful beings in existence by Marvel

Wow. And the dude got knocked out by Orion and fails to do anything noteworthy. Monica just takes the energy in his molecules and call this a casual day. She stomps in epic proportions.

And Lightray is stated and shown throughout the entire thread to not be a match for Orion. Orion who was stated in that same respect thread to be Superman's equal.

@sladeracer: yeah. This should be locked. Lightray who is not even a match for Superman level characters vs Monica who has fought Beyonders(Pre Retcon Beyonder was even impressed by her power), who has hurt Zeus more than he has ever been hurt by a mortal, who has one shot Speedster Gods. Who has been called by Marvel one of the most powerful beings in existence. Who has single handedly saved the 616 Universe multiple times. Yeah, let's lock it in favor of someone who is not even half as durable as Superman. Whose best speed feat is flying to the sun in under a minute. Whose durability is wacky and would not even get a 6 in marvel's handbook.whose best AP feat is generating heat equal to a few suns. And exploding matter to create a star in a last ditch attempt to stop the Black Racer.

@superprimetime:

1. Electromagnetic energy is a fancy talk for light? 🤦🤦🤦 Do you need a physics textbook? Magic is light, Gamma radiation is light, anti matter is light, radio waves is light, lightening is light, Electricity is light. X-rays is light? This is just pure stupid. And Monica controls any energy she has time to analyze. ANY

2.Yeah. she is not a goddess. She just happened to be called a goddess by Black panther and just happened to have the name Sun Goddess as part of her alias. She just happened to be mistaken for a God by beings more powerful than Eternity. It's in my head all right

3. She can't make clones? Wow. Is this just going to be me debunking you, over and over again. Or you just Trolling. Black panther 2005, back to Africa. Read that.

4 $ 5. Slightly slower than flash? Just because he runs from the Black Racer. No other feat other than that ABC scaling. This dude has never blitzed anyone EVER. He Get beat up by Orion for God's sake. Of course.Hes slightly slower than flash that he gets stomped over and over again by Superman level characters.

6. She can't control light unless she absorbs it🤦🤦🤦

Wow. Just wow. You know Absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing about Monica. When has Monica ever, in her entire career absorbed Light? 🤦🤦🤦 She can control light however and whenever she wants. Stop putting up stupid limitations.

7.lightray does not have immesurable speed. What kind of wanking is this? Does this mean Orion has immeasurable spead too. Running from Black Racer does not make you Infinite. Speed stealing. Ultimates issue 9.

Read that

8. Wow. You have never seen her blow up People's brains. And you say you know her. Messing up People's brains by Spectrum's own admission is one of her favorite tactics. She did it to Shuma Gorath, Technomancer and not forgetting the Thanos incident where she almost blew up Thanos brain. that's basically Spectrum's most infamous moment

9. By default? So no feats at all to life Draining Resistance? Just by default because he's a new God. And Spectrum has taken control and overloaded energy beings from Beyond. So, Unless you get a feat of him resisting getting speed stealed or his soul controlled. He gets stomped.

10. He could literally just make a sun? 🤦🤦🤦 The dude made a star by his own admission with the last of his energy and Stars don't do sh*t to Monica. What is he hoping to achieve with a star? She literally just phases through it. And Size Manipulation does matter. She could grow a hundred feat tall and just crush him with her hands. Easy peasy. Again, this is the same dude that got stomped by Orion.

11. Soul Manipulation seems like a lie? Read Strikeforce . You don't even know anything about Spectrum and this is annoying. She controlled the souls of dozens of dead people and forcibly put their souls back in their body.

12. Since when, where are the proof?

13. ha. Of course. She can brighten a Universe but not hurt Lightray. Like I said, she has hurt Zeus more than he has ever been hurt by a mortal. Just entering Thanos eyes made Thanos scream in immense pain. Zeus durability>>>>>>>>>Thanos durability>>>>>>Superman=Orion's durability which have been shown to be far greater than Lightray. And Spectrum have hurt Zeus and Thanos. Infact, It took Zeus three tries to even hit Monica and that's because she was weakened. Zeus knocked out all the avengers and Monica phased through his attacks in an INSTANT. It was only after Monica was weakened that Zeus was able to beat her.

14. Monica's lightspeed, deal with it. 🤦🤦🤦

Of course, Monica is so lightspeed that she moved at FTL speeds on her first speed feat. And she dodges hundreds of light speed attacks easily.

15. Since when. Where's your proof. You are basically using by default throughout. By default he Is not Orion's level by feats and their fights, so Your by default is not working.

16. Orion is Orion for God's sake🤦 Orion is Superman's level. Deal with it. Lightray does not even have the speed or AP to one shot Orion. Wow. Orion tanked the Oblivion bomb that destroyed a star. Monica destroyed a bomb that was going to destroy one fifth of the universe. She flies through the Neutral zone easily.

Monica has never beaten a high tier by herself? 🤦🤦🤦 Should I even answer this?

Monica is so durable that she has regenerated from ATOMS and being destroyed by The Beyond realm

Wow. Just Wow. And then you end with Lightray Blitzes and One shots. When has he ever blitzed anyone ever. And has only oneshot someone once in his entire career. Like I said. Monica eats Speedster God's for Breakfast. And please this is embarrassing. Imagine thinking electromagnetic energy is a fancy word for Light. I can't imagine the school you went to. 🤦🤦🤦😂

I'm on mobile, scans later. That's why I provided Issues.

@sladeracer: and Please for God's sake. Does anyone of you even know the difference between combat speed and travel speed. This is annoying. Lightray does not have a single combat speed feat and somehow, someone thinks Orion has immesurable speed.

@sladeracer: Okay. I'm going to stop this debate with you. The other guy seems not to even understand physics and tbh so do you. His post is so cringe worthy. I gave up after writing a couple hundred of words to reply to him and CV just keeps on stopping my Uploads.

Light is made up of photons. Photons are Subatomic particles. You can't control Electricity with light. And you cant Control radio waves with light and you sure as hell can't control Solar energy with light. And there is no way in hell you are controling atoms with light nor can you control magnetism with light. I can't believe someone even thinks that.

Your entire first statement and his are physical anomalies and goes against the simple laws of physics. And Spectrum can destroy planets just by hitting them. This entire conversation is an anomaly.

Edit. I've tried close to a dozen time now to post some freaking scans but Comicvine is not just working for me.