Soulfire Darkseid & Trigon VS Dark Phoenix & Space Punisher Hulk

SP Hulk is out of his league here.

SP Hulk is an non-factor here. Soulfire Darkseid is finite above infinite-dimensional, so he probably wins against the phoenix force, who has just feats that are infinite-dimensional and not above.

Space Punisher doesn't belong here, team 1 wins.

i think soul fire darkseid can solo both phoenix and hulk

@randomguy287: @mainamlimbu99: @soratoumiga: @yasindermann: @wollfmyth209: Well how about Space Punisher Hulk's feat of crushing six Watchers at the same time as shown in the pic I've posted which is one of the very few that exist about the character who's known as the most powerful version of Hulk? I picked two DC characters that are above Thanos level but not too much and put them against two Marvel ones who are also superior to Thanos but not as powerful as Spectre and Mister Mxyzptlk.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/dark-phoenix-jean-grey-vs-space-punisher-hulk-2003439/

Darkseid solos.

Either on team should be able to solo tbh. Also, what the f*** is SPHulk doing here? He will go down in less than a second against each of the 3.

Darkseid and Trigon curbstomp both of them

@banecapital:Crushing six featless Watchers is hardly indicative of anything.

@wollfmyth209: @supermanthor: @kh0rn3: @byondeon: @yamiyodare: Well Darkseid and Trigon have done everything they could over many centuries for accomplishing what Space Punisher Hulk inadvertedly did by killing those six Watchers, which is destabilising the entire universe. Dark Phoenix is also an extremely powerful cosmic entity but since she's lacking physically, Space Punisher Hulk is a fitting teammate for her. Darkseid and Trigon should be credited for being very smart, experienced and skilled in the use of their powers but I think Dark Phoenix and Space Punisher Hulk are quite above them in pure destructiveness.

SF Darkseid can solo all 3. All characters are from different tiers. Not a good matchup.

@banecapital: Again, you're using incomparable examples(I noticed you loved doing that).

Darkseid and Trigon had much more competition and challenges to overcome in distabilizing the mainstream universe(although, give Trigon credit, he ruled who-knows-how-many dimensions before he came to Earth) than Space Punisher Hulk did. So yeah, that's still not a feat of sheer destructiveness in any capacity.

@wollfmyth209: @comicgirl21: Trigon claims that he's conquered an unknown number of dimensions but still the Teen Titans have beaten him while losing to Black Adam who's underrated in this thread:

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/black-adam-runs-the-gauntlet-2007785/

This Black Adam was amped by Isis in the World War 3 storyline but still he's much weaker than an multiversal character, just like Dark Phoenix, Space Punisher Hulk and Darkseid.

@banecapital: It's as if you're blind to the circumstances as to how the Teen Titans beat him.

The Titans had specific circumstances aiding them in every battle against Trigon, and they never really won. It was usually just Raven winning in some capacity. The same Raven, I should mention, also needed context to beat Trigon and is usually nothing to him. And this same Raven, who is nothing to Trigon, stomped the Teen Titans countless times on her own. And she stomped a more powerful roster than the one Black Adam stomped anyways.

The fact that you'd think to compare vamping Black Adam and Trigon just kinda goes to show you really only have surface level knowledge of things.

@wollfmyth209: Darkseid and Raven beating more characters than Black Adam has when he was amped by Isis is merely a result of his limited appearances in the World War 3 storyline where he was much more powerful than before but still as the name suggests, Black Adam's killing spree was actually considered to be more important for the people of Earth than anything done by Darkseid despite his reputation as the personification of evil that still did not seem impressive enough for people to remember him as much as Black Adam's reign of terror. So what I'm saying is that Darkseid and Trigon are exaggerated while Dark Phoenix and Space Punisher Hulk are legit cosmic busters who can threaten an entire universe with total annihilation. I'm not saying that they can certainly beat Darkseid and Trigon but the two dominant DC characters are not able to destroy entire universes as easily as Superman would punch a large building into rubbles.

@banecapital: Darkseid and Raven beating more characters than Black Adam has when he was amped by Isis is merely a result of his limited appearances in the World War 3 storyline where he was much more powerful than before but still as the name suggests,

This is a red herring. I never said Raven and Darkseid beating more characters than Adam has anything to do with anything. I'm just saying comparing Trigon and Black Adam is a legitimate insult.

Black Adam's killing spree was actually considered to be more important for the people of Earth than anything done by Darkseid despite his reputation as the personification of evil that still did not seem impressive enough for people to remember him as much as Black Adam's reign of terror.

This is literally based on absolutely nothing. I have no idea what you're basing the idea that Adam's killing spree is more important than most of Darkseid's machinations.

Final Crisis >>>>> WWIII as an event.

So what I'm saying is that Darkseid and Trigon are exaggerated while Dark Phoenix and Space Punisher Hulk are legit cosmic busters who can threaten an entire universe with total annihilation.

LOL. Neither Dark Phoenix nor SP Hulk are "legit cosmic busters". Also, if you have a winner in mind, why'd you make this thread?

I'm not saying that they can certainly beat Darkseid and Trigon but the two dominant DC characters are not able to destroy entire universes as easily as Superman would punch a large building into rubbles.

Never said they could, but neither can Phoenix and SP Hulk.

@wollfmyth209: I'm not biased in any way or at least I'm trying as much as I can not to be. It's obvious that Darkseid and Trigon are overrated in this thread so I'm merely defending SPH and Jean in order to prevent this awesome tag team battle from being rendered a locked mismatch. I insist that SPH and Jean are much superior to Darkseid and Trigon in brute force. SPH and Jean are also very well paired with each other since every Hulk's best trait is his durability, making him a perfect teammate of Jean who's on the contrary known to be lacking durability which is her greatest weakness. That's the reason Jean was so close to the immortal Wolverine, whose fights with Hulk are legendary. But SPH and Jean are both mentally unstable with Darkseid and Trigon being famed for their intelligence, experience and skill in using their versatile abilities so that's an advantage for them to give them an even opportunity against such destructive opponents. And because of SPH's appearances being too rare for him to have feats that can be properly scaled in comparison to the other three mighty characters, let's think that he's World Breaker Hulk * Galactus / Thor.

Trigon solo's. Hulk doesn't belong here at all, he gets killed accidentally by his own teammate.

What the hell is hulk doing here. He defeated some out cast watchers . They weren't even on par with regular watchers .

@termiteone4ever: I think you're an obsessed hater of Hulk even if we're talking about two different versions of him:

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/dc-vs-marvel-herald-tier-2017187/

@rampagethefirst: Dark Phoenix can beat Galactus who is more powerful than Trigon.

@banecapital: Galactus isn't more powerful than Trigon, like, not even close.

Team 1

@rampagethefirst: