Soul King Runs The Naruto Gauntlet (Equal Stats)

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What? Why bump this again? I think everyone should know SK stomps.

SK Imagine everyone dead.

Nothing has changed. SK is still the strongest character in the HST. Everyone here is fodder he can one shot with a mere thought.

Still HARD STOPPING at 1

Naruto verse gets instantly soul crushed alongside everyone else in One Piece verse.

Bleach fans: Soul King easily created and separated the realms using the power of the Almighty as a keystone in the novel, one shot gargantuan hollows, the power of his weakened body with most of his organs taken out was still mantaining the three realms stable.

Naruto Fans: Kaguya is implied to have created her dimensions off screen using a special technique that she had all of the ninja world's chakra alongside her own to create. None of that ability scales to her because she never tanked it and the only time she used it was with outside help, not counting the fact that it takes time and is much stronger than her other tehniques.

Bleach fans: Yes, Soul King is stronger.

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Revived Kaguya needed allied shinobi boost to form ETSB but prime Kaguya ya doesn’t because she already has that portion of chakra since it was originally hers anyway

• Correction. It was not originally her. It was chakra from the Tree. That is common misconception,Hagoromo originally used Nishuu to gave people the ability to meld together their physicial and spiritual energies and they amplified it vastly. Current shinobi and their chakra combined are probably far beyond her previous level.

In Prime she created: a Star, Planets, and moons. One of those planets are even bigger since the gravity is much higher than earths.

• False, the gravity of that planet is the same as ours but she can increase it with her limited control using Amenominaka.

Defeating a planet sized monster is still not more impressive than creating multiple planets with moons and a Star. Kaguya creating a Star is more impressive than SK creation feats. SK didn’t create a Star

• Soul Society and Hueco Mundo are definitely larger than planet sized
• Hueco Mundo has a moon on it for example. The World of Living is also obviously has a sun and is an entire universe, althought we are not sure if he created all of it.

• Soul Society also has a cycle of day and night, meaning it has a sun, unless your are going to say it is just artificial ilumination lol. Ichibei stole 100 nights from the future:

• Even the anime shows it. Probably is on the manga too.

SK created 3 realms which 2 are earth sized and the 3rd is not. Plus it’s proof they are connected to his power since if he dies the worlds will merge back into one.

• Hueco Mundo and Soul Society are definitely beyond planet size.

The only time she did it on panel was with the chakra of all shinobi. Look at the description of the move in the databook:

Enclosing the power of all of creation, a chaos invoking jet black orb

Taking in the chakra of the shinobi that were captured in the Shinju, a maximized "Truth-Seeking Ball". It's the same as the black orbs on Naruto's back after he used the Six Paths Sage Mode, however, their size is not comparable. Taking in all chakra natures and yin and yang at once, it hides within the power to let the world come to naught....!!

• It also solidifies this notion. Even if she can use the ETSB in her prime, there is no proof she can spam it, there is zero proof she created the 6 dimensions on her own, and it takes time and is a special technique that she has never tanked on interacted with, so it doesn't scale to her regular stats. It was also mentioned to create only a singular dimension or world not destroy the 6, so it is a singular attack, it is not comparable at all with the SK creating 3 realms bigger than a planet. Kaguya's feat is implied.

Kaguya created multiple planets and a Star in her prime. When Revived she wasn’t nearly all of her full power and had to rely on Shinobi Alliance boost to gather the energy to spam ETSB.

• Lol, she can't spam ETSB. You have no proof of that. Being at full power or not doesn't matter since the chakra from the allied shinobi forces was needed the time it was shown on panel. It was never mentioned it was due to lack of chakra or anything like that.

When she was defeated and her chakra sealed her planets and Star remained intact. Sasuke is even shown traveling on two of these worlds: the Sand world, and the Ice world where he first fought Kinshiki.

Momoshiki also can create worlds as the novel states it as a parallel world

• Yes, but there is no statements comproving he created it.

@therealyellaninja: taste all this shit you said, or shut up.

@sagathelegend:

1. You do realize that the Shinobi Alliance isn't even 1% of Kaguya's Chakra right?

2. Momoshiki's Dimension WAS stated to be of his creation.........

See, the parallel dimension HE'D MADE!

why is this not close yet? the amount of ridiculous hax this character has can fill an entire page.

Allied shinobi forces chakra is basically irrelevant when alone half of nine tails chakra naruto could amplify the allied shinobi forces over 3 times just by touching their shoulders.

@haxxxz: People forget the Allied Shinobi Forces included the Kage and varios other top tier shinobi and every single human on earth was also under the effects of it and that Kaguya was getting exponentially stronger due to it.

@sagathelegend: then maybe right, but if it's prime kaguya then there's no need for this cause Prime Kaguya is someone who is basically the originator of all chakra and an being of infinite chakra(as per the databooks) that time all chakra belonged to her before getting shared to others. So if it's prime kaguya she doesn't need any of these

Well prime Kaguya still had a giant army of Zetsus and was connected to all of them throught the tree, she had already cast IT on humanity and had an army of at least One Thousand Zetsus. And we know fodder Zetsu have chakra as well.

@sagathelegend: Prime Kaguya I said who ate the chakra fruit and gained all chakra and later divided and protected humanity then she got corrupted and people started fearing her and she used them as jetsus.

Basically her massive parts of her chakra got to Hogoromo and Hamura.prime kaguya had all chakras

Well we don't know too much about Prime Kaguya but we know she was so afraid of the Otsusuki that were coming that she resorted to creating an army of fodder zetsu to help her in the fight instead of stopping them with her full power.

@sagathelegend: yeah that's funny cause she was going to let those fodder jetsus army fight the otutsukis lol 😂😂😂😂📤🔊😂📤🔊. She's really a dumbstruck goddess

Pretty much lol. Maybe Isshiki was more competent? But given that he is currently using Jigenbas a vessel and is not mentioned on the story of the shinobi world, probably not.

@sagathelegend: yeah in the main manga it was not mentioned about any other otutsukis just mentioned as "Them".

Speaking of issike I'm really interested to know about his powers, if this had been done by kishimoto he would have definitely displayed his powers really well unlike the current author who really isn't that good with consistent power scaling

Pretty much. Maybe Isshiki has some kind of dojutsu or special ability like the other ones (probably). The microscopic abilities Jigen has aren't as cool as the other unique abilities in my opinion, there are so yet many more abilities to explore .

@sagathelegend: exactly, it's said that Kaguya is weaker than all these but the way it's presented it seems kaguya is the strongest lol 😂😂😂

Urashike would not even scratch Kaguya at her prime. Honestly would not even give trouble to Fourth World Ninja War Kaguya. Kinshiki would also be fodder. Momoshiki is the only threat there, not the other ones.

@sagathelegend:

they were all probably, referring to the Kaguya they previously knew, The Kaguya who hadn't stolen the Chakra fruit.

They may not have known how powerful the fruit made her, that's my only conclusion.

Cuz from what all 3 Otsutsuki has shown,Kaguya could stomp them at once low diff.

And from what we're shown it's not even clear that if Issike is the strongest or leader of the otutsukis. We're just shown him to be the partner of kaguya so there's a probability that there is an Leader of otutsukis out there too who has knowledge and potential fruit of the god tree that created the universe with it's mere fragment.

Bump.

@haxxxz:

There's obviously gonna be an OP Otsutsuki leader who'll appear one day. IIRC Urashiki told Toneri he wasn't authorized by the main family to kill another Otsutsuki. I am thinking the Otsutsuki have a sort of Hyuga clan set up,Which means the main family has yet to be shown

Soul Kings blinks the whole gauntlet.

@sagathelegend:

Actually not a baseless assumption dude............

A pre Six Paths Power up Unmastered Bijuu Mode Naruto with just a SMALL FRACTION of Kurama's Chakra easily powered up THOUSANDS of Shinobi to 3x their power output........

And this version of Naruto wouldn't even be a fraction of power to the weakest variant of Six Paths Madara let alone Kaguya...........

Stop with the Naruto downplay dude.........

Enough of your fan fiction bruh. It was stated she was low on chakra which is why she kept getting tagged repeatedly by Naruto after that which resulted in her transformation into that giant rabbit. She couldn't even maintain the All Ash Killing Bones, see as they were crumbling.

Stated to be stronger and faster after she was in the state of condition below.

The source of the information he provided is from the novel. Are you seriously gonna use the anime as the official source? Where they do that at?

We already know how he created the dimension it happened on panel in the manga and in the movie. Expansive TSB with all elemental natures in your face.

At that time, a huge explosion that twists and warps space! A twosome who call themselves Momoshiki and Kinshiki appear, wrapped in an ominous atmosphere. Both of them wield the Rinnegan and tenaciously aim to take Naruto’s life. Sasuke protects Boruto, who is petrified and unable to do anything. Naruto, who was occupied by that and turned his back, disappears with a jutsu fired by Momoshiki. He leaves Boruto a smile…

@sivil-law said:

@sagathelegend said:

@animefreak1 said:

@sagathelegend:

1. You do realize that the Shinobi Alliance isn't even 1% of Kaguya's Chakra right

• Baseless Assumption Number #2. Kaguya was specifically stated to be getting stronger due to absorbing the shinobi's chakra and she had not even drained all of it. Her power was said to be getting exponentially stronger

2. Momoshiki's Dimension WAS stated to be of his creation.........

See, the parallel dimension HE'D MADE!

• No idea where this come from? Source? Just for curiosity
• No mention of how he made that parallel dimension or the size of it thought. The only time we see someone exhibit that power is throught the ETSB. Also in the anime Momoshiki mentioned that he created a nursery

A nursery is a term the Otsusuki apparently use to refer to the planets.

So at best that dimension is planet sized. Matches with what Momoshiki said in the anime and the size of some of Kaguya's dimensions.

Enough of your fan fiction bruh. It was stated she was low on chakra which is why she kept getting tagged repeatedly by Naruto after that which resulted in her transformation into that giant rabbit. She couldn't even maintain the All Ash Killing Bones, see as they were crumbling.

Stated to be stronger and faster after she was in the state of condition below.

• Not relevant to the ETBS argument thought. The one time she used it was wirh all shinobi's chakra. Show her using it without all shinobi's chakra or we are done here. Look at the databook description:

Enclosing the power of all of creation, a chaos invoking jet black orb

Taking in the chakra of the shinobi that were captured in the Shinju, a maximized "Truth-Seeking Ball". It's the same as the black orbs on Naruto's back after he used the Six Paths Sage Mode, however, their size is not comparable. Taking in all chakra natures and yin and yang at once, it hides within the power to let the world come to naught....!!

Being low on chakra means nothing if there is no proof she can use all by herself thought. Not that it matters, it doesn't scale to any of her stats anyway.

The source of the information he provided is from the novel. Are you seriously gonna use the anime as the official source? Where they do that at?

• The anime is secondary canon to the manga unless stated otherwise. Light novels are tertiary canon at best. Manga is the primary canon, nothing else is.

We already know how he created the dimension it happened on panel in the manga and in the movie. Expansive TSB with all elemental natures in your face.

• A planetary dimension at best. No stated dimension is given thought.

At that time, a huge explosion that twists and warps space! A twosome who call themselves Momoshiki and Kinshiki appear, wrapped in an ominous atmosphere. Both of them wield the Rinnegan and tenaciously aim to take Naruto’s life. Sasuke protects Boruto, who is petrified and unable to do anything. Naruto, who was occupied by that and turned his back, disappears with a jutsu fired by Momoshiki. He leaves Boruto a

smile…

There is literally zero proof that is ETBS thought. Where is the scan of him saying the name of that technique again? ETBS takes time and is specifically a technique stated to wipe out and create a new time spacem that random ball did nothing of the sort.

BLEACH FANS: "SOUL KING AND YHWACH ARE PLANET LEVEL!"

NARUTO FANS: "SHOW ME FEATS OF DOING IT ON PANEL! WHERE ARE THE SCANS?"

BLEACH FANS: "THE MANGA SAYS SO!"

NARUTO FANS: "STATEMENTS DON'T MEAN ANYTHING! SHOW IT HAPPENING OR IT NEVER HAPPEN!"

NARUTO FANS: "ALSO KAGUYA IS SOLAR SYSTEM LEVEL BECAUSE STATEMENTS!"

BLEACH FANS: " BUT..."

NARUTO FANS: "F YOUR LORE BECAUSE IT ISN'T NARUTO AND I DON'T CARE ABOUT CLOROX!"

If we consider statements too then both bleach and naruto verses go to universal+ level.

@sivil-law:

@sivil-law said:

@sagathelegend said:

There is literally zero proof that is ETBS thought. Where is the scan of him saying the name of that technique again? ETBS takes time and is specifically a technique stated to wipe out and create a new time spacem that random ball did nothing of the sort.

There is no name for any of his techniques. But what are the odds that an Otsutsuki who was stated to have created his own dimension performs an attack with all 7 elements like Kaguya's ETSB that made him and Naruto disappear from the ninja world dimension instantly.

• So especulation? Good. Also where is Ying-Yang on that attack for it to be 7 elements?
• I am just saying that this technique here isn't ETSB, not that Momoshiki doesn't have it or a similar ability, but whatever you said just proved me right, since ETSB has an specific function, to destroy or create a new dimension, it doesn't send peoples into other space-time/dimensions unlike this one.

Not relevant to the ETBS argument thought. The one time she used it was wirh all shinobi's chakra. Show her using it without all shinobi's chakra or we are done here. Look at the databook description:

Enclosing the power of all of creation, a chaos invoking jet black orb

Taking in the chakra of the shinobi that were captured in the Shinju, a maximized "Truth-Seeking Ball". It's the same as the black orbs on Naruto's back after he used the Six Paths Sage Mode, however, their size is not comparable. Taking in all chakra natures and yin and yang at once, it hides within the power to let the world come to naught....!!

Yeah you do know that the databook describes whatever happens in the manga. That is exactly what happened. I love how people use the databook when it is convenient to lowball. Are you saying Kaguya is not able to produce a TSB without the shinobi world's chakra

• Do you have any proof she can? Both the databook description and the only time she did it on the manga show otherwise. "Prime Kaguya" might be able to that (possibly) but I have my doubts about the version that Naruto and Sasuke fought.

Being low on chakra means nothing if there is no proof she can use all by herself thought. Not that it matters, it doesn't scale to any of her stats anyway.

It actually does but whatever

• Well it does only if there is proof she can do it all by herself thought.
• As a bonus she never tanked and its a special technique she needs to use that is different from her coneventional abilities. It doesn't scale to her normal stats. I don't think this needs to be adressed too but here it is.

The anime is secondary canon to the manga unless stated otherwise. Light novels are tertiary canon at best. Manga is the primary canon, nothing else is.

Are you sure?

• Pretty much.

A planetary dimension at best. No stated dimension is given thought.

Anime says otherwise. Not to mention the dimensions are called time-spaces not planets.

• This is not even the dimension they created thought but whatever.

• Worse for her them thought. Time Space is any model which fuses the three dimensions and the dimension of time. It can be just as small as a piece of paper or as big as an universe. I assumed planet because of what Momoshiki said earlier, but you are free to assume it is a city level landscape because it has no stated size. I am saying based on what Momoshiki said:

Pretty much this

I support Bleach tho I already said that the Soul King stomps.

I am not bout to go back and forth on the ETSB. Momoshiki clearly used a similar attack.

As for the nursery bit

@sivil-law said:

@sagathelegend said:

There is literally zero proof that is ETBS thought. Where is the scan of him saying the name of that technique again? ETBS takes time and is specifically a technique stated to wipe out and create a new time spacem that random ball did nothing of the sort.

There is no name for any of his techniques. But what are the odds that an Otsutsuki who was stated to have created his own dimension performs an attack with all 7 elements like Kaguya's ETSB that made him and Naruto disappear from the ninja world dimension instantly.

Not relevant to the ETBS argument thought. The one time she used it was wirh all shinobi's chakra. Show her using it without all shinobi's chakra or we are done here. Look at the databook description:

Enclosing the power of all of creation, a chaos invoking jet black orb

Taking in the chakra of the shinobi that were captured in the Shinju, a maximized "Truth-Seeking Ball". It's the same as the black orbs on Naruto's back after he used the Six Paths Sage Mode, however, their size is not comparable. Taking in all chakra natures and yin and yang at once, it hides within the power to let the world come to naught....!!

Yeah you do know that the databook describes whatever happens in the manga. That is exactly what happened. I love how people use the databook when it is convenient to lowball. Are you saying Kaguya is not able to produce a TSB without the shinobi world's chakra?

Being low on chakra means nothing if there is no proof she can use all by herself thought. Not that it matters, it doesn't scale to any of her stats anyway.

It actually does but whatever

The anime is secondary canon to the manga unless stated otherwise. Light novels are tertiary canon at best. Manga is the primary canon, nothing else is.

Are you sure?

A planetary dimension at best. No stated dimension is given thought.

Anime says otherwise. Not to mention the dimensions are called time-spaces not planets.

Bruhh that's not a etsb thats a biju bomb and naruto isnt relative to etsb. Like at all. Kaguya cant make etsb on here own. She needs IT and the planet's chakra. Sk in the novels can casually make and destroy dimensions. No chakra stealing need.

And btw the otsuski create dimensions be stealing chakra from planets via god tree. Thet cant contain alll that power. So they make etsbs form external sources

Gods like Quincy like and The soul king are born with dimension level power

lol kaguya doesnt have infinite chakra. She ran out of chakra multiple times during their fight.

If she had infinite chakra in her Prime she wouldnt be stealing life force from plp to become stronger. Naruto databooks have alot of hyperbloes

@undre: lol she was fighting for months against the brothers and still couldn't be defeated and ultimately was sealed in order to beat her.

Lol she never needed those people's chakra she just made the jetsus army so as to fight the other otutsukis.

Etsb was created by her own chakra with help of the shinobi alliance because she was totally out of chakra but her prime self had all chakra so she doesn't need any others, she just took them to create her army against otutsukis not to take them for herself.

Stop with your stupid Naruto downplay. If I come down to downplay you'll barely even come here ever again so don't make me go downplay mode 😂😂😂, you'll regret it so bad

why is everyone quoting the ETSB? Is this the most useless attack. is not true? @wanderez@theemperor95@raziel2014@mrviking

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