Son Goku vs Satoru Gojo (Speed Swap)

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I have seen many various of Goku vs Satoru battle threads here in Comic Vine, but what about the version where you swap a character's speed around by giving Goku's speed to Satoru and giving Satoru's speed to Goku? How will the fight turn out to be? Well we could try out this version.

No power scaling or cross scaling allowed. Raw feats & statements applied only. Goku has Perfected Ultra Instinct. Satoru has Six Eyes. Fight takes place in Earth. Who would win and why?

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#2  Edited By malieke

What the fuck is Goku going to do without the speed advantage ? Even if he's way more powerful he'd be a statue

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DE and purple GG

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Nothing changes. Gojo still wins

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he gets a big fat rage boost and oneshots the enitre verse.

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What is with these ridiculous Goku threads lately? They’re poppin up left and right, You guys must really have a Goku fetish or something lmao

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#8  Edited By YuMira
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What is with these ridiculous Goku threads lately? They’re poppin up left and right, You guys must really have a Goku fetish or something lmao

yup rent free

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#10  Edited By johncenation7
@malieke said:

What the fuck is Goku going to do without the speed advantage ? Even if he's way more powerful he'd be a statue

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This thread definitely has an agenda behind it

Oh no, there is not a single hidden agenda behind it.

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I'm surprised you Gojo wankers haven't developed arthritis yet.

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What is with these ridiculous Goku threads lately? They’re poppin up left and right, You guys must really have a Goku fetish or something lmao

Oh really? I didn't know that.

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What will a brick with speed disadvantage will do against gojo, Gojo wankers must be having a party rn.

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@monviez3 said:

What will a brick with speed disadvantage will do against gojo, Gojo wankers must be having a party rn.

YES YES!!

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@jjkhead said:
@monviez3 said:

What will a brick with speed disadvantage will do against gojo, Gojo wankers must be having a party rn.

YES YES!!

Well aren't you a bit too obvious?

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@yumira said:

he gets a big fat rage boost and oneshots the enitre verse.

Which one?

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What was the point of this.

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Bumping again after 30 days.

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Lol

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#25  Edited By ArgomkII

@johncenation7: you thinking that giving the haxed opponent the speed advantage instead of giving it to the brick was a good idea

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@argomkii said:

@johncenation7: you thinking that giving the haxed opponent the speed advantage instead of giving it to the brick was a good idea

Aren't you the same person who copied my battle thread?

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#27  Edited By johncenation7

Bumping this thread after 4 months since it requires recognition.

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#29  Edited By Scythenger

Gojo still can't hurt goku. Goku also has IT that he can spam at any range. And if gojo tries to physically touch goku he's going to break himself hitting goku. Goku has hakai and god bind too. He can also make clones of himself. Create a barrier around himself and others. And can create a giant manifestation of himself out of ki that can goku can control even outside of it. Being faster than goku won't help gojo and gojo's hax is doing nothing to goku. And goku can get rage boosts in ui. So even if goku's speed is replaced with gojo's the speed boost goku would get should negate or mitigate that.

Coupled with the fact that goku while using ui in ssb was able to react to people like granola and gas, perceive their movements and exchange blows with them. Also master roshi using something that pales in comparison to ui was able to dodge multiple hits from jiren and even take a couple of clean shots and kept on moving until the chop happened. Then you have goku's precog, analytical prediction, being able to sense malice and danger along with ui and using the master roshi example and goku's techniques I don't see gojo winning. And goku being able to get rage boosts.

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killmonger101 Why did you comment and delete your comment afterwards?

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#31  Edited By johncenation7
@scythenger said:

Gojo still can't hurt goku. Goku also has IT that he can spam at any range. And if gojo tries to physically touch goku he's going to break himself hitting goku. Goku has hakai and god bind too. He can also make clones of himself. Create a barrier around himself and others. And can create a giant manifestation of himself out of ki that can goku can control even outside of it. Being faster than goku won't help gojo and gojo's hax is doing nothing to goku. And goku can get rage boosts in ui. So even if goku's speed is replaced with gojo's the speed boost goku would get should negate or mitigate that.

Coupled with the fact that goku while using ui in ssb was able to react to people like granola and gas, perceive their movements and exchange blows with them. Also master roshi using something that pales in comparison to ui was able to dodge multiple hits from jiren and even take a couple of clean shots and kept on moving until the chop happened. Then you have goku's precog, analytical prediction, being able to sense malice and danger along with ui and using the master roshi example and goku's techniques I don't see gojo winning. And goku being able to get rage boosts.

Satoru may not have the attack potency to hurt Goku, but couldn't he incapacitate Goku with Unlimited Void by frying his brain out until he dies?

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#32  Edited By ChainChan

@scythenger said:

Gojo still can't hurt goku. Goku also has IT that he can spam at any range. And if gojo tries to physically touch goku he's going to break himself hitting goku. Goku has hakai and god bind too. He can also make clones of himself. Create a barrier around himself and others. And can create a giant manifestation of himself out of ki that can goku can control even outside of it. Being faster than goku won't help gojo and gojo's hax is doing nothing to goku. And goku can get rage boosts in ui. So even if goku's speed is replaced with gojo's the speed boost goku would get should negate or mitigate that.

Coupled with the fact that goku while using ui in ssb was able to react to people like granola and gas, perceive their movements and exchange blows with them. Also master roshi using something that pales in comparison to ui was able to dodge multiple hits from jiren and even take a couple of clean shots and kept on moving until the chop happened. Then you have goku's precog, analytical prediction, being able to sense malice and danger along with ui and using the master roshi example and goku's techniques I don't see gojo winning. And goku being able to get rage boosts.

Bro brought up non-factors like it would hold any weight when he cant even deploy them fast enough with speed swapped, at least Gojo had a passive ability to entice people to pit him up against people above him 😭 what does goku do when someone outstats him like he would to a building level character? nothing 😭

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@chainchan: look at what master roshi was able to do against jiren using something way inferior to ui. There's also rage amps. Goku can also use IT without needing to use his fingers. And he can spam IT that way. And ui is passive. Gojo would mangle himself if he physically landed any attack on goku. There's also goku's precog, being able to sense malice and danger and goku's analytical prediction that he showcased against hit. God bind, hakai, goku's barrier and his giant ki avatar are also instant. Gojo has no chance. The speed disparity wouldn't be an issue with ui and rage amps. And the other things I mentioned. Gojo being faster wouldn't mean anything.

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#34  Edited By Scythenger

@johncenation7: goku doesn't need to use his brain with ui. His body moves on its own and IT would still allow goku to blitz gojo. And from the looks of it gojo needs to make a hand gesture then say the name. He also didn't have his eyes covered. I could be wrong but if he needs to show his eyes, use a hand gesture and say the attack he could be taken out before he gets it off and if he has to stay stationery as well then a simple ki blast would end him. But even still if I'm wrong IT followed by any kind of attack is still a gg. Solar flare, a kiai attack, god bind, hakai, a generic ki blast are all things that can end him if he has to do those things I mentioned. He'd be an easy target for any of those things to land on him.

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#35  Edited By johncenation7
@scythenger said:

@johncenation7: goku doesn't need to use his brain with ui. His body moves on its own and IT would still allow goku to blitz gojo. And from the looks of it gojo needs to make a hand gesture then say the name. He also didn't have his eyes covered. I could be wrong but if he needs to show his eyes, use a hand gesture and say the attack he could be taken out before he gets it off and if he has to stay stationery as well then a simple ki blast would end him. But even still if I'm wrong IT followed by any kind of attack is still a gg. Solar flare, a kiai attack, god bind, hakai, a generic ki blast are all things that can end him if he has to do those things I mentioned. He'd be an easy target for any of those things to land on him.

The fight takes place or should I say starts off in Unlimited Void, so Satoru doesn't need to activate it.

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@johncenation7: does gojo still need to say the attack to get it off? if he does goku could still stop him. If not then ui would still be effective against it. And in general is that how all domains work? there needs to be a hand gesture and the attacks need to be spoken? also can they move or do they have to be still to use their domain? sorry for the questions I'm just wondering.

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Okay so speed is swapped but can Walmart Killua hurt someone as durable and strong as UI Carrotman? The guy who can bruteforce his way out of a timestop by an SSB level Space Assassin? If so i'd like to see some actual feats and calcs for Walmart Killua.

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@johncenation7: goku doesn't need to use his brain with ui. His body moves on its own and IT would still allow goku to blitz gojo.

Cool and all, but he's too slow to dodge anything with speed swapped.

And from the looks of it gojo needs to make a hand gesture then say the name.

Yeah...which wouldn't be hard to do if he's faster--i didn't even bring up DE.

He also didn't have his eyes covered. I could be wrong but if he needs to show his eyes, use a hand gesture and say the attack he could be taken out before he gets it off and if he has to stay stationery as well then a simple ki blast would end him.

Not with speed swapped lol, he could very well perform those actions without goku even being aware of such, couple that with the form of time dilation the six eyes give him, and you have a fight where goku is clueless.

But even still if I'm wrong IT followed by any kind of attack is still a gg.

Crazy how with swapped speeds + Infinity....that wont happen.

Solar flare, a kiai attack, god bind, hakai, a generic ki blast are all things that can end him if he has to do those things I mentioned.

Most are close range, rely on speed to be put out effictvley--two things goku doesn't have in this thread.

He'd be an easy target for any of those things to land on him.

i agree yup! goku would be a statue to Gojo in this fight, Mhm, 100%

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These fights are dumb and clearly made with a winner in mind. Gojo is literally going to be septillions of times faster than Goku in this scenario. He could literally play a game of basketball with everyone on planet Earth before Goku would realize he moved.

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@chainchan: IT and UI that far scales above what roshi displayed, goku's precog, malice sensing, analytical prediction, rage boosts, and techniques like god bind, hakai, his barriers, and his giant avatar makes this a win for goku. Hakai has range. God bind does as well. IT also and goku with his barrier. Goku's still vastly stronger and more durable too. And a simple ki blast would end him too. Hits time abilities don't work. Goku scales above jiren who in his non fp base form was stated to have power that transcended time. Gojo gets destroyed.

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@chainchan: IT and UI that far scales above what roshi displayed, goku's precog, malice sensing, analytical prediction, rage boosts, and techniques like god bind, hakai, his barriers, and his giant avatar makes this a win for goku. Hakai has range. God bind does as well. IT also and goku with his barrier. Goku's still vastly stronger and more durable too. And a simple ki blast would end him too. Hits time abilities don't work. Goku scales above jiren who in his non fp base form was stated to have power that transcended time. Gojo gets destroyed.

Bro said "yaga baga bi" like anything here is going to circumvent a speed blitz, lets put it in simple terms, let say, you got, gokus "precog" (Which isn't even that active or put emphasis on) can you, a human dodge light?

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#44  Edited By Scythenger

@chainchan: goku has shown precognition. Emphasis doesn't have to be put on it. Gojo isn't hurting goku. He can't deal with IT. And a simple ki blast would end him. Master roshi who's a human with something far inferior to ui was able to dodge, block, react and take hits from someone like jiren. Coupled that with precognition, his analytical prediction and being able to sense malice, danger, his ki sensing and being able to locate someone through the vibrations in the air makes this a win for goku. It's the accumulation of things that makes gojo being faster a non issue.

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I honestly do not see how goku gets hurt?

This is like making an ant FTL but then putting it in a fight with The Sun.

I am not a JJK manga reader but does anyone have any reasons why Gojo survives the solar system exploding? Can he breathe in space? No matter how fast gojo is goku has pretty much infinite time to blow up the SS and win.

Goku blows up the planet/SS, IT to king kais planet or new namek, Gojo dies of not being able to breathe or eat/drink, GG? Then goku wishes the solar system back.

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i mean that woud be goku too cuz it ignores any durability. hulk, superman their ass is dead as well