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#1 Edited by Life_Without_Progress (23704 posts) - - Show Bio
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Goku

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Accelerator

In character

Current power levels Goku (Just for kicks)

Winner by KO, Incapacitation or Death

Random Encounter

Fight takes place at an unpopulated city setting at night

Who'd win? For what reasons?

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#2 Posted by Khael (15331 posts) - - Show Bio

Accelerator stomp

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#3 Posted by Thekillerklok (9853 posts) - - Show Bio

So many of these threads keep poping up and Whack a mole is tiring. so have a copy/paste from the last thread.

his reflection working on archangel gabriel.

Accelerator was like a blast wave from an explosion, blowing away the snow from the ground, he charged towards the two angels. In the moment before their weapons were about to clash, Accelerator considered which entity he should get rid of first. However he came to the conclusion that since both of them were winged monsters, there was no point in aiding either side, and he leapt between the two, using his Reflection ability to attack the angels by redirecting their own blows at themselves. BOOM!! The sound of explosions rang throughout the air. Against the doll-like angel of ice, Reflection was largely ineffective. Even though he used Reflection, the wings of ice were like soft candy, as they were bent out of shape, they were sent flying towards the forests, sending up ice and dirt as they went along.

Below for context.

Can't you tell? She turned the evening into night."

Kanzaki said casually, but Kamijou is gobsmacked.

It's easy to say that she changed the evening sky to night, but this means that the person in front of them can control the relative positions of the Earth to the sun. No, even the orbit of the moon was switched. This means that the moon and other planets are under all control.

Controlling celestial bodies.

“Head out, Archangel Gabriel. Blow them all away.”

The world turned to night.

As if everything had been instantaneously painted over with black, the sky turned to a night sky.

“Using Gabriel to remove all the stars from the sky and leaving the Star of Bethlehem as the only thing floating in the incomplete heavens that are filled with Telesma was establishing the large flow of power needed for the ceremony to reset the four elements."

above I shamelessly stole from a respect thread.

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#4 Posted by PreCrisisBardock (8565 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku stomps

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#5 Posted by Khael (15331 posts) - - Show Bio
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#6 Posted by ChaosKnight75 (1014 posts) - - Show Bio

Gonna have to go further than Dragon Ball to have a chance. Accelerator effortlessly walks through Part 1 Dragon Ball. As for later versions of Goku, it all depends on how he chooses to fight. If he gets up close, he gets one-shotted, if he fires a ki blast big enough and far away from Accelerator to destroy most of the planet at least, he wins. Considering this involves actually fighting and Goku's in character, Accel stomps.

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#7 Posted by SirNeko (4396 posts) - - Show Bio

The guy who loses to Superman.

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#8 Posted by PreCrisisBardock (8565 posts) - - Show Bio

@khael: How doesn't he? He's way too fast.

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#9 Posted by ChaosKnight75 (1014 posts) - - Show Bio
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#10 Posted by PreCrisisBardock (8565 posts) - - Show Bio

@chaosknight75: IIRC his reflections isn't omnipresent, Goku can tank more than a few blows from himself, Accel. Has never deflected something moving that fast.

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#11 Edited by ChaosKnight75 (1014 posts) - - Show Bio

@precrisisbardock: Wrong. Once he turns on his Electrode or even worse, is Awakened, he's got a passive reflection that automatically redirects whatever Vector touches it. There are ways to get around it but being too fast isn't one of them since it's still a Vector and Accel has stopped things he doesn't even register or know occurred. And nope, one-shotting is Accel's specialty. Goku will have his own momentum put in whatever strike used against him and reversed suddenly, undoubtedly breaking a limb as the best case. Worst case, Accelerator redirects all the blood flow and bio-electricity in his body to go the opposite direction upon Goku making physical contact with his redirection. Goku vomits all his organs, bleeds from every orifice, and dies from massive organ failure and blood loss pretty quickly. Already said how later versions of Goku can win and that's about it

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#12 Posted by eliah1102 (3421 posts) - - Show Bio

@precrisisbardock: accelerator can deflect lightspeed attack

"She released a lightning spear from it. The spear of purple electricity moved forward at the speed of light and held enough destructive force to knock someone unconscious. She did not think that it would act as a fatal blow. As long as it distracted him long enough for her to get away, that was enough. However, the lightning spear she had fired at the boy rebounded and struck her in her own chest."

To Aru Majutsu no Index Volume 3, pag. 58

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#13 Posted by PreCrisisBardock (8565 posts) - - Show Bio

@parichithayerakala: Accelerator is one of those characters, okay.

How do you get past his reflection?

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#14 Posted by eliah1102 (3421 posts) - - Show Bio

@precrisisbardock: to get past his redirection one needs to have an extremely complex/uncomprehensable attack or just being an extremely intelligent guy with full knowledge and prep would suffice.

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#15 Edited by ChaosKnight75 (1014 posts) - - Show Bio

@precrisisbardock: Ways to get by Accelerator's Vector manipulation

Use an attack that has no Vector behind it, meaning it has no direction and magnitude

Hit him with something he can't comprehend the laws behind of. This one's tough since Accel is adaptable to say the least. Got over magic once he realized ordinary laws of physics didn't and Dark Matter for the same reason, and he figured that one out during combat once he took into account all 3,500 different energies that made it up that never existed in the universe. Then he just updated his shield to include all of those on the list of things he can redirect. Still, something exotic enough should get him. Like Whis reversing time.

The aforementioned way DBZ characters can beat him that I posted

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#16 Posted by Life_Without_Progress (23704 posts) - - Show Bio

And tada, I just made the anime equivalent of a Flash vs Superman thread.

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#17 Edited by homicidalmaniac (10894 posts) - - Show Bio

And tada, I just made the Japanese equivalent of a Flash vs Superman thread.

Fixed.Accelerator is a novel character than a anime character

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#18 Posted by Imperfect_Cell (4022 posts) - - Show Bio

Perfect.

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#19 Edited by BlackWind (9790 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku isn't smart enough to figure out the weakness behind Accelerator's power. Esper abilities involve(IMHO) needlessly complicated calculations and equations to achieve their effect.

The first punch Goku throws will break his own arm.

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#20 Posted by XioKenji (3372 posts) - - Show Bio

Accel solos DBZVerse.

Till Whis uses time hax.

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#21 Posted by Rpgesus (5380 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku

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#22 Edited by Khael (15331 posts) - - Show Bio

@khael: How doesn't he? He's way too fast.

Accelerator doesn't need to react, his vector shield always activated ( even in his sleep )

So weird that you're using this kind of argument against Accelerator

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#23 Posted by NeonGameWave (19333 posts) - - Show Bio

Accelerator.

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#24 Edited by Ragnar_Lodhbrok (399 posts) - - Show Bio

@xiokenji: Not really, anyone can beat Accelerator by planet busting, and this is exactly the type of thing Frieza would do even in character. To my knowledge he doesn't really have any way of putting down someone with regeneration on par with Majin Buu.

Captain Ginyu can beat Accelerator since body switching has no vectors. Guldo should be able to pull it off too since vectors don't exist in a time stop.

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#25 Posted by XioKenji (3372 posts) - - Show Bio

@xiokenji: Not really, anyone can beat Accelerator by planet busting, and this is exactly the type of thing Frieza would do even in character. To my knowledge he doesn't really have any way of putting down someone with regeneration on par with Majin Buu.

Captain Ginyu can beat Accelerator since body switching has no vectors. Guldo should be able to pull it off too since vectors don't exist in a time stop.

Sure BFR is a way to kill , He could just turn Majin Buu into plasma easily.

About bodyswitching , pretty sure that can be countered via vectors since it's a form of "energy waves" ; "shouts "Change, now!" as he fires an energy wave from his mouth into the opponent's mouth." -DBZWikia

As for Timestop ,that has a chance of working but... provided that Guldo is in character and will most likely mess up hardcore.. via CiS lol

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#26 Posted by iUseMyCajonas (4187 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackwind: Literally Goku's character is about finding weaknesses and openings. He's a battle genius.

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#27 Edited by XioKenji (3372 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackwind: Literally Goku's character is about finding weaknesses and openings. He's a battle genius.

He's a battleborn genius indeed but once he tries to punch Accel (which he certinally will because that's simply his character) , that's an arm gone.

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#28 Posted by wbr17 (3516 posts) - - Show Bio

@sirneko said:

The guy who loses to Superman.

haahhahahhaah

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#29 Posted by iUseMyCajonas (4187 posts) - - Show Bio

@xiokenji: One arm gone oh no ki blast. Gohan can fight without an arm, pretty well, actually. Goku can too.

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#30 Posted by XioKenji (3372 posts) - - Show Bio

@xiokenji: One arm gone oh no ki blast. Gohan can fight without an arm, pretty well, actually. Goku can too.

How exactly are they gonna kill anyways lol.

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#33 Posted by Life_Without_Progress (23704 posts) - - Show Bio
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#35 Posted by Floopay (11040 posts) - - Show Bio

@mysticmedivh: Awwww, buddy Jesus. Been awhile since I've seen that one.

Thanks for reading,

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#36 Posted by Ragnar_Lodhbrok (399 posts) - - Show Bio

@xiokenji said:
@ragnar_lodhbrok said:

@xiokenji: Not really, anyone can beat Accelerator by planet busting, and this is exactly the type of thing Frieza would do even in character. To my knowledge he doesn't really have any way of putting down someone with regeneration on par with Majin Buu.

Captain Ginyu can beat Accelerator since body switching has no vectors. Guldo should be able to pull it off too since vectors don't exist in a time stop.

Sure BFR is a way to kill , He could just turn Majin Buu into plasma easily.

About bodyswitching , pretty sure that can be countered via vectors since it's a form of "energy waves" ; "shouts "Change, now!" as he fires an energy wave from his mouth into the opponent's mouth." -DBZWikia

As for Timestop ,that has a chance of working but... provided that Guldo is in character and will most likely mess up hardcore.. via CiS lol

But Majin Buu can regenerate from that.

You might be right on the body switching though.

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#37 Posted by Amendment50 (15111 posts) - - Show Bio

Accelerator.

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#38 Posted by KwasiD2k (844 posts) - - Show Bio

Accelerator puts Last Order in to fight for him to give Goku a chance.

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#39 Posted by BlackWind (9790 posts) - - Show Bio

@iusemycajonas: Let me know when Goku knows how to circumvent a power as ridiculously complicated as Accelerator's. Which will be never. Just because he is a "battle genius" doesn't mean he can figure out how abilities work that he one, has never seen before, and two, don't exist in his world in the first place.

Goku wouldn't even know what a "vector" is.

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#40 Posted by Life_Without_Progress (23704 posts) - - Show Bio

The flames have not yet risen in this thread *adds more firewood*

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#41 Edited by alcoholbob (1314 posts) - - Show Bio

There's no evidence Goku can use any attacks that don't involve vectors. He gets stomped. Also Accelerator can steal momentum from planets to amp his physical blows. Pretty sure he could beat Goku in a fist fight.

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#42 Posted by Don_Sevour (1021 posts) - - Show Bio

Accelerator wins.

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#43 Posted by Chazz85 (5201 posts) - - Show Bio

@precrisisbardock: Wrong. Once he turns on his Electrode or even worse, is Awakened, he's got a passive reflection that automatically redirects whatever Vector touches it. There are ways to get around it but being too fast isn't one of them since it's still a Vector and Accel has stopped things he doesn't even register or know occurred. And nope, one-shotting is Accel's specialty. Goku will have his own momentum put in whatever strike used against him and reversed suddenly, undoubtedly breaking a limb as the best case. Worst case, Accelerator redirects all the blood flow and bio-electricity in his body to go the opposite direction upon Goku making physical contact with his redirection. Goku vomits all his organs, bleeds from every orifice, and dies from massive organ failure and blood loss pretty quickly. Already said how later versions of Goku can win and that's about it

WTF is this level of hax jesus christ like literally jesus christ these hax actaully make it nessarcy for skyfather + being's to be able to beat this guy.

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#44 Posted by Life_Without_Progress (23704 posts) - - Show Bio

Edited the OP. Now it ain't just End of Dragon Ball Goku. It's CURRENT POWER LEVELS GOKU!

*readies the popcorn *

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#46 Edited by Etheral_Dreams (6116 posts) - - Show Bio

@xiokenji: Not really, anyone can beat Accelerator by planet busting, and this is exactly the type of thing Frieza would do even in character. To my knowledge he doesn't really have any way of putting down someone with regeneration on par with Majin Buu.

Captain Ginyu can beat Accelerator since body switching has no vectors. Guldo should be able to pull it off too since vectors don't exist in a time stop.

Even if that were true, Accelerator can control imaginary vectors so...

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#47 Posted by XioKenji (3372 posts) - - Show Bio

Edited the OP. Now it ain't just End of Dragon Ball Goku. It's CURRENT POWER LEVELS GOKU!

*readies the popcorn *

*Starts the flame war*

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#48 Posted by XioKenji (3372 posts) - - Show Bio

Accel slaughters Goku , by accident.

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#49 Edited by Ragnar_Lodhbrok (399 posts) - - Show Bio

@ragnar_lodhbrok said:

@xiokenji: Not really, anyone can beat Accelerator by planet busting, and this is exactly the type of thing Frieza would do even in character. To my knowledge he doesn't really have any way of putting down someone with regeneration on par with Majin Buu.

Captain Ginyu can beat Accelerator since body switching has no vectors. Guldo should be able to pull it off too since vectors don't exist in a time stop.

Even if that were true, Accelerator can control imaginary vectors so...

Well there's no evidence he can use those imaginary vectors in a time stop.

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#50 Posted by XioKenji (3372 posts) - - Show Bio

@etheral_dreams said:
@ragnar_lodhbrok said:

@xiokenji: Not really, anyone can beat Accelerator by planet busting, and this is exactly the type of thing Frieza would do even in character. To my knowledge he doesn't really have any way of putting down someone with regeneration on par with Majin Buu.

Captain Ginyu can beat Accelerator since body switching has no vectors. Guldo should be able to pull it off too since vectors don't exist in a time stop.

Even if that were true, Accelerator can control imaginary vectors so...

Well there's no evidence he can use those imaginary vectors in a time stop.

Ginyu does indeed have a form of "waves" while using body switch and yes , Timestop can mess Accel up excluding the fact that Guldo is a jobber that can only stop time for 5 seconds.

He failed to harm Gohan/Krillin with his timestep and got rekt since he has to hold is breath.