Honestly Snake is more comperable to someone like Spiderman physically, besides in lifting strenght than Batman, not counting speed, where he is good deal faster than peter
Lol. You gotta stop with this. Not even Nick wanked Snake that much.
@professorrespect: I don't know about him being able to cause Shockwaves with his punches. But he is fast and agile enough to destroy Metal Gears that have notable and highly skilled pilots.
Snake has 1v1'd Metal Gears and come out on top with far worse gear than what he has here. To be honest Batmam probably isn't taking out a Metal Gear even with the Batwing and Batmobile. For him that's like a 2/10 fight.
@professorrespect: I don't know about him being able to cause Shockwaves with his punches. But he is fast and agile enough to destroy Metal Gears
With tons of gear, knowledge, assistance, etc etc. I could go on about how Batman has defeated high tiers with gear and knowledge as well, except I could find better feats, like him besting Amazo.
To be honest Batmam probably isn't taking out a Metal Gear even with the Batwing and Batmobile
@eredin12: I will agree that a prime Snake should be strong enough to maybe stagger a Metal Gear by punching it if he were standing on top of it. Though I could only see him doing it once then attempt to blow it up with something else.
But I don't remember him causing any shockwaves with his punches.
@professorrespect: Batman has high end feats that would allow him to win 2/10 against a Metal Gear with those things. But anyone who ACTUALLY is reading Batman comics on the regular know he cannot get a higher win than that without prep.
He doesn't have a contingency plan for a Metal Gear. Especially with a pilot in it as Batman won't kill.
@eredin12: That doesn't appear to be a Shockwave to me. But I do remember these older versions of the characters actually causing the thing they were fighting on to shake. Which is impressive enough.
@professorrespect: Batman has high end feats that would allow him to win 2/10 against a Metal Gear with those things. But anyone who ACTUALLY is reading Batman comics on the regular know he cannot get a higher win than that without prep
With the same setup as Snake? Sure he can. He's beat worse. You seriously think he doesn't prep for dealing with giant robot mechs? He'd just EMP it and that'd be the end of it.
@mee09: it is a twin snakes thing, and the less said about twin snakes the better. Generally snake's feats are far more grounded than the nonsense in that game. Regardless, Snake wins a random encounter.
@professorrespect: Batman isn't strong enough to use an MG Railgun. Not like Snake can at least. The reason Snake can use it like he does is because he is superhuman.
Bruce can't defeat a Metal Gear with some grenades. Especially a piloted one. He might be able to cause some damage with a Rocket Launcher. Assuming he even knows how to use one on the same level Snake can. But couldn't destroy it and he won't be able to evade the Metal Gear like Snake. Because he is much slower than him.
The reason Snake can use it like he does is because he is superhuman
Says who?
Bruce can't defeat a Metal Gear with some grenades
Snake didn't just have "some grenades" he used chaff variants to stop RAY from targeting him and then used insider knowledge to damage the radar unit. Bruce can do the exact same with the same setup.
@mee09: it is a twin snakes thing, and the less said about twin snakes the better. Generally snake's feats are far more grounded than the nonsense in that game. Regardless, Snake wins a random encounter.
You mean Snake jumping on missiles like a anime character isn't canon? Who would have guessed?
@professorrespect: Batman doesn't use heavy weaponry like that because he is not strong enough to still be agile while holding them.
Physics and the size of the weapon make it pretty obvious as to why Snake can use it the way that he does. A regular guy can barely fire a shotgun if he isn't used to the recoil.
Snake has many years of experience and knowledge on Metal Gears and superhuman physicals that will allow him to get into and get out of situations that Bruce cannot. Batman isn't Deathstroke. He won't be able to evade a Metal Gear for more than 8-12 seconds in an open space.
@eredin12: twin snakes is, at best, technically canon because it is a remake of the original but wasn't done by the actual creator (and Kojima has said himself if he didn't make it himself then it isn't canon, but then flashbacks in mgs4 came from twin snakes rather than the original but it may have been an issue with the original source rather than a choice). Sure it is an improvement on graphics and arguably better gameplay (at times at least), but it comes at the expense of a watered down script and eye rolling awful cutscenes.
And what I said was GENERALLY snake's feats are more grounded than what is seen in twin snakes. Yes he has some outliers that are over the top but consistently he is portrayed much closer to peak human overcoming his more powerful enemies through stealth, skill, tactics and wiles. Whereas in twin snakes his walking animation might as well be backflips.
@professorrespect: Dude I'm gonna assume you don't actually read Batman comics
The whole "u don't read x" isn't a argument. Batman can do exactly what Snake could do with the same gear, prep, and information that Snake had. You've been the one saying he can't even carry heavy weapons.
Even Bruce himself would admit that him vs a Metal Gear should be a mismatch
Not really. I've already explained how Snake did it via chaff grenades and focusing on the radar. If you really think Batman can't do that, then I can't really say much else.
@professorrespect: Dude I'm gonna assume you don't actually read Batman comics
The whole "u don't read x" isn't a argument. Batman can do exactly what Snake could do with the same gear, prep, and information that Snake had. You've been the one saying he can't even carry heavy weapons.
Even Bruce himself would admit that him vs a Metal Gear should be a mismatch
Not really. I've already explained how Snake did it via chaff grenades and focusing on the radar. If you really think Batman can't do that, then I can't really say much else.
lmao at Snake being comparable to Spiderman physically. Ah yes, Snake blitzes Batman because he has moved at supersonic speed before. He hasn't, accept it. Deathstroke would also win against him.
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