Snydercut Superman vs MCU Avengers, FOX X-MEN and Fantastic Four

Johnny power steals everyone than one shots Superman.

Poor Clark

He doesn't deserve this

Telepathy GG

The 4 telepaths in this fight can all solo

4? There's Charles and Jean, who are the others I am missing?

Doesn't make a difference though because Superman stomps. He has knowledge AND bloodlust AND 1 DAY of Sundip! The first thing he will do is immediately super-speed and kill the telepaths and other biggest threats in the first millisecond of the fight in which only QS will be able to move in, but given that Flash is massively faster than QS and Superman competed with him twice (and won) Superman shouldn't have a problem with QS.

@crunch5481: ohhh I thought it was using 2 versions of Charles. The other two are Wanda and Jean.

This thread is useless and boring and only exists to wank Clark. Under normal circumstances he gets effortlessly stomped.

Why?

Also, Wdym under normal circumstances?

Right Wanda,

You're also assuming they could TP him despite him being an alien and none of them having TPed Aliens before and in some instances outright failed to do so.

Define normal circumstances. I would argue that in any scenario that Superman has knowledge and maintains all of his normal abilities that he is unbeatable by these people. If he decided not to use his powers to the best of his abilities then and only then could he lose.

Xavier solos

Jean will do it

X-men

Superman wins. With Barry scaling he's somewhere in the lightspeed territory so no one here (including qs) can perceive him, he has knowledge and he will kill everyone here.

Barry wasn't going light speed then, and Superman was still slightly slower than him.

@monsieurmaster: Barry didn’t break his rule against Superman so he doesn’t scale to lightspeed in any way.

@geekryan: didn't Xavier couldn't TP Vuk and other Aliens in Dark Phoenix?

OT: Superman gets stomped.. even though most of them are street level fodders the Powerhouses will carry them to victory. Jean probably solos if She can go Phoenix mode

Superman gets mega TPed

The only relevant people here are the telepaths. Everyone else gets statued by Cavilman.

@geekryan: @jedisympathiz3r: He went MFTL in the explosion scene, he was around light speed in the fight. The motherbox charge scene he didn't say he broke the rule so I don't think he needs to state it. Clark still tagged him ,tracked him and moved in his speed force perception so he's in the territory. If I have an angry kryptonian after me I'm not gonna go mach 5 or something lol, Barrys going to be going his fastest.

@monsieurmaster: There was no time rewinding stuff so Flash wasn’t going his fastest against Superman.

Pretty sure Flash said that he makes it a rule not to go FTL under normal circumstances

Eww the SC Supes wank.

OT: Supes gets clapped.

He’s not gonna be going that fast once he runs into a high tier like CM or Thanos.. and he’s not putting them down very quick either.

He’s gonna have a hard time tagging fox QS; he can do it eventually maybe, but not before he gets haxxed.

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He gets TPd and dies.

@jedisympathiz3r: Even before he does the "time rewinding" stuff, he's still perceiving the explosion and the destruction in complete and utter slow motion and moving normally which is crazy. And its literally stated everywhere that he's casual light speed (like wallers suicide squad files). The guy is ridiculous and none of these can do anything to a guy who was close to his speed (that's what its always been like, Clark just a little bit below him). Superman is too much now for these guys.

@geekryan: tp don’t work on aliens sorry he’s fodder.

Could go either way speed kills

why do people wank this hard

Xavier was still able to read Vuk's mind. And even if their TP didn't work on the D'Bari, it doesn't mean their TP won't work against EVERY alien.

Wandas TP works on aliens (Thor)

@geekryan: doesn’t mean it does either the only reason his tp didn’t work was because they were Aliens which exactly what Clark is the burden of proof is on you

Again, Xavier was able to read Vuk's mind...

Your argument is completely nonsensical.

It was never stated that Jean couldn't affect Vuk with her TP because they were aliens. Vuk said "You can't control my mind like theirs". How does that imply all aliens?

D'Bari =/= Kryptonians

@geekryan: when did he read her mind and it’s irrelevant because reading is not controlling so moot!

Vuk meant theirs as in earthlings vuk and those Aliens had no tp resistance it just didn’t work every time Charles came in contact with another telepath he always mentioned how powerful they were or that they were trying to block him off with vuk it just didn’t work at all no struggle or tug of war

Xavier won't be trying to control Superman lol, he's just going to shut his mind down.

You're making assumptions about what Vuk meant.

Nice try though.

Vuk had special powers and was the only one of her race to display any and very specifically said Jean's non Phoenix illusion didn't work on her. Later Xavier used tp on her to find out she wasn't human and Jean certainly used tp to sense the locations of the surviving D'bari after she destroyed the train. Kryptonians and D'bari are not even the same kind of alien as outside of specialized cells that metabolize sunlight, Kryptonians are basically human in every other regard. So even if you had definitive proof D'bari can't be tped, you have 0 evidence that kryptonian minds work the same way, because they aren't the same.

Only one who can stop him are telepaths. If he has knowledge he can blitz them first. But if phoneix is with them, clark probably loses.

F4 = Completely useless and gonna be destroyed

X-Men = Same with F4 and Quicksilver can't hurt him. He knows Telepaths so quickly speed blitz them.

MCU = If he starts with wizard and witch still pretty easy.

Bloodlust Superman can be a real threat like Thanos or Apocalypse. maybe more dangerous. Battle is gonna be more like Super heroes vs Villain.

@geekryan: when did Xavier read Vuk's mind ?

Can't find the clip, but it was right after Magneto attacked Jean and then Xavier arrived. He saw Vuk, read her mind, and determined that she wasn't human.

He says when Xavier literally reads Vuk’s mind in Dark Phoenix.

The alien argument is not usable. What are Clark’s tp defenses?

@geekryan: oh yeah i remember that, i thought he was reading Jean's mind

No, he doesn’t know Telepaths. He’s never even seen a telepath before in the movies, let alone fought one. He may know that they are telepath’s, but he wouldn’t know the first thing about dealing with them.

Superman has freeze breath

@pyrofn: Superman resist wonder woman lasso which god level magic. Xavier tp need super computer and special gear helmet to be city level. God level much better than city level.

@redroc: Thor, Wanda, Stephen, Jean , Quicksilver all are problems Clark can take down most but hes not taking. All. He didn't get much better then he already was actually

@thorwins1875: So? Thor has lightning to off set that wanda Stephen haxAnd Jean tp

@destinyman75: yes i agree thor can 1 shot wanda and xavier with light.

Lol it begins the wank...clark didn't get much better then he already was hes not taking out entire teams (other then maybe FF).

Superman statue entire team here. Even thor can kill entire x-men roster.

First off, he didn’t resist anything. He interrupted her before she could finish her command.

Secondly, you just showed me you know jack squat about “Xavier‘s super computer”, which by the way is not city level. That “super computer”, called Cerebro by the way, is capable of amping his reach to around planetary and beyond, considering he was monitoring the X-Men the entire time they were within Earth’s orbit.

Thirdly, magic is not the same as telepathy.

For once with you, I can finally say

SInce Clark has knowledge on them and if he’s smart he knows who to target first, but I’m not too sure about Jean though

spite against supes....